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Mazilo
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Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject:
/bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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If I edit the /etc/passwd file and replace /bin/bash with /bin/tcsh for
a root and/or user account, that account can not login through the GUI.
In other words, after the user enters the username + password and hit
the ENTER key, he will only get to the next blank page (blue color) and
after about three minutes the system will time out with the main login
prompt again. Can anyon please help to make this works? My users prefer
to use TCSH instead of BASH shell. |
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Malcolm
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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On 19 Jul 2006 06:27:42 -0700
"Mazilo" <mazilo@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | If I edit the /etc/passwd file and replace /bin/bash with /bin/tcsh
for a root and/or user account, that account can not login through
the GUI. In other words, after the user enters the username +
password and hit the ENTER key, he will only get to the next blank
page (blue color) and after about three minutes the system will time
out with the main login prompt again. Can anyon please help to make
this works? My users prefer to use TCSH instead of BASH shell.
Hi |
Do a which on tcsh, think you will find it is in /usr/bin not /bin
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houghi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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Malcolm wrote:
| Quote: | Do a which on tcsh, think you will find it is in /usr/bin not /bin
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That is a soft link to /bin:
houghi@penne : l /usr/bin/tcsh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2006-07-07 18:13 /usr/bin/tcsh -> /bin/tcsh*
Sorry, no sollution for the OP.
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Harold Stevens
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Joined: 08 Apr 2005
Posts: 384
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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In <20060719083614.61df4218@oscar.home.lan> Malcolm:
[Snip...]
| Quote: | Do a which on tcsh, think you will find it is in /usr/bin not /bin
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FWIW, YaST also provides for changing a user's login shell:
Security and Users -> User Management -> Login/Edit -> Details -> Login Shell
(SuSE 10.0)
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Chris Cox
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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Mazilo wrote:
| Quote: | If I edit the /etc/passwd file and replace /bin/bash with /bin/tcsh for
a root and/or user account, that account can not login through the GUI.
In other words, after the user enters the username + password and hit
the ENTER key, he will only get to the next blank page (blue color) and
after about three minutes the system will time out with the main login
prompt again. Can anyon please help to make this works? My users prefer
to use TCSH instead of BASH shell.
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I just setup a user via YaST with tcsh as the shell... worked fine.
You might want to try doing that instead of modifying an existing
account.... then copy their home data over... just an idea. |
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Malcolm
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
Posts: 722
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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houghi wrote:
| Quote: | Malcolm wrote:
Do a which on tcsh, think you will find it is in /usr/bin not /bin
That is a soft link to /bin:
houghi@penne : l /usr/bin/tcsh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2006-07-07 18:13 /usr/bin/tcsh -
/bin/tcsh*
Sorry, no sollution for the OP.
Dang, so it is. Well I tried both /bin and /usr/bin and they both |
worked fine?
Wonder if there is a typo in the /etc/passwd file?
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houghi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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Malcolm wrote:
| Quote: | houghi wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Do a which on tcsh, think you will find it is in /usr/bin not /bin
That is a soft link to /bin:
houghi@penne : l /usr/bin/tcsh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2006-07-07 18:13 /usr/bin/tcsh -
/bin/tcsh*
Sorry, no sollution for the OP.
Dang, so it is. Well I tried both /bin and /usr/bin and they both
worked fine?
Wonder if there is a typo in the /etc/passwd file?
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Could be. The easiest might be to do the change with YaST, Security and
Users, User Management, <select user>, Edit, Details, Login Shell, click
the down arrow, select '/bin/tsh' and fronm there you are on your own.
Now if this does not work, the user can change the shell he uses:
`man chsh`. Let THEM do the work and screw up the their account.
Tell them: Hey, ig you are so smart and don't want to work with tcsh,
how come YOU have not edited it? Also all they need to do (if everything
else fails) is put tcsh in .bashrc and it starts when you open a
terminal.
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Clive Eisen
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Joined: 04 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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houghi wrote:
| Quote: | Malcolm wrote:
houghi wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Tell them: Hey, ig you are so smart and don't want to work with tcsh,
how come YOU have not edited it? Also all they need to do (if everything
else fails) is put tcsh in .bashrc and it starts when you open a
terminal.
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exec tcsh |
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Mazilo
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Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 12
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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Malcolm wrote:
| Quote: | On 19 Jul 2006 06:27:42 -0700
"Mazilo" <mazilo@gmail.com> wrote:
If I edit the /etc/passwd file and replace /bin/bash with /bin/tcsh
for a root and/or user account, that account can not login through
the GUI. In other words, after the user enters the username +
password and hit the ENTER key, he will only get to the next blank
page (blue color) and after about three minutes the system will time
out with the main login prompt again. Can anyon please help to make
this works? My users prefer to use TCSH instead of BASH shell.
Hi
Do a which on tcsh, think you will find it is in /usr/bin not /bin
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Cheers
Malcolm °¿°
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Wow, I was surprised to see so many responses. About two minutes I
posted this, I realized the mistakes I made. It was the "setenv
DISPLAY" I added to /etc/csh.cshrc file that caused the problem. After
I fixed this line, everything went back to normal.
Thank you everyone who responded to my post and I believe ohers will
benefit from your responses, too. |
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Theo v. Werkhoven
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 08 Apr 2005
Posts: 172
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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The carbonbased lifeform Mazilo inspired alt.os.linux.suse with:
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Malcolm wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006 06:27:42 -0700
"Mazilo" <mazilo@gmail.com> wrote:
If I edit the /etc/passwd file and replace /bin/bash with /bin/tcsh
for a root and/or user account, that account can not login through
the GUI. In other words, after the user enters the username +
password and hit the ENTER key, he will only get to the next blank
page (blue color) and after about three minutes the system will time
out with the main login prompt again. Can anyon please help to make
this works? My users prefer to use TCSH instead of BASH shell.
Hi
Do a which on tcsh, think you will find it is in /usr/bin not /bin
--
Cheers
Malcolm °¿°
Wow, I was surprised to see so many responses. About two minutes I
posted this, I realized the mistakes I made. It was the "setenv
DISPLAY" I added to /etc/csh.cshrc file that caused the problem. After
I fixed this line, everything went back to normal.
Thank you everyone who responded to my post and I believe ohers will
benefit from your responses, too.
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For next time: your users can do this for them selfs too, see chsh(1)
E.g.:
$ chsh -s /bin/tcsh
Changing login shell for theo.
Password:
Shell changed.
Theo
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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Joined: 25 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:54 am Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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In message <1153335367.645801.126070@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Mazilo
wrote:
| Quote: | Malcolm wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006 06:27:42 -0700
"Mazilo" <mazilo@gmail.com> wrote:
If I edit the /etc/passwd file and replace /bin/bash with /bin/tcsh
for a root and/or user account, that account can not login through
the GUI.
Wow, I was surprised to see so many responses. About two minutes I
posted this, I realized the mistakes I made.
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By the way, why are you bothering with tcsh at all? It's not worth using as
a shell. I say this after using csh/tcsh for some years before switching to
bash. |
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Mazilo
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 12
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
| Quote: | In message <1153335367.645801.126070@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Mazilo
wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006 06:27:42 -0700
"Mazilo" <mazilo@gmail.com> wrote:
If I edit the /etc/passwd file and replace /bin/bash with /bin/tcsh
for a root and/or user account, that account can not login through
the GUI.
Wow, I was surprised to see so many responses. About two minutes I
posted this, I realized the mistakes I made.
By the way, why are you bothering with tcsh at all? It's not worth using as
a shell. I say this after using csh/tcsh for some years before switching to
bash.
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It really doesn't matter whether you and I don't and/or do like tcsh or
even tcsh isn't worth to use. It is just something my users prefer.
They have their reasons to stick with tcsh. Perhaps, they have their
own tcsh scripts. Who knows tcsh shell gives them better performance
than bash and/or any other shell. It is just YMMV and I never bother
them. |
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houghi
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Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject:
Re: /bin/tcsh vs. OpenSuSE-10.1 on AMD 64-bit
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Mazilo wrote:
| Quote: | By the way, why are you bothering with tcsh at all? It's not worth using as
a shell. I say this after using csh/tcsh for some years before switching to
bash.
It really doesn't matter whether you and I don't and/or do like tcsh or
even tcsh isn't worth to use. It is just something my users prefer.
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Indeed. Yet you still can let them make their own choice by using `chsh`
to change it for themselves to whatever you have on that machine.
As bash is default on most machines, I would sugest that you leave that
as a default. If somebody wishes to change his default, tell him to use
chsh. If he is unable to do that, then he most likely does not have a
real reason to change.
If you want to have it as a default (unwise in my opinion, especially as
the user can use chsh) then you need to do some other changes, so that
it is selected by default.
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