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John Goerzen
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 114
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 Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 08:06:56AM -0700, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
| Quote: | Just checking: are you already aware of Debian From
Scratch (DFS), which
already does this?
http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/
At nearly 1/2 gigabyte you can hardly call DFS a
recovery cd...
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Why not?
But also, remember that you can build your own images with dfsbuild,
that include the exact set of packages you want.
The idea with my DFS image is that you have it burned in advance, and
that it has all the tools you need to recover. And I really try to
include *all* the tools. For example, with the live DFS CD environment,
you can:
* Use cdebootstrap to install a new sarge or etch environment
from the on-CD copy of .debs for the base system
* Reinstall your boot loader
* Compile a kernel (using solely the tools on the CD, plus a ramdisk
or filesystem where you can store the build tree)
* Complete all that is necessary for a full manual from-scratch Debian
install
* Work with XFS, ext2, ext3, reiser, JFS, reiser4, fat, etc. -- including
filesystem create and repair utilities
* ssh to and from the recovery environment
* Read manpages (including development manpages)
* View webpages, use FTP, use network diagnostic utilities, bring up
wifi
* Compile/run C, Perl, Python, OCaml, Haskell, and Java programs
* Work with zip, zoo, arj, tar, tar.gz, tar.bz2, etc. files
* Use darcs, git, cvs, subversion, or bzr to pull down code
* Set up a serial connection, including the option to use PPP
* Restore/use/make tar, amanda, afbackup, dump (and soon bacula) backups
* Burn CDs and DVDs, make ISO filesystems
* Repair your Asterisk installation
* Chroot to your system and be able to run most programs as-is
I am planning to integrate Xen and Bacula into the next revision of the
DFS image as well.
So, it still fits easily on one CD-R, so I don't see what the problem
is. I believe I have left off fluff, such as X, from this CD. And
very little starts by default. But I'm happy to take change
suggestions.
-- John
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Mathieu JANIN
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 2
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:10 am Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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Hi folks,
i could seem idiot, but wouldn't it be nice to have a minimalistic bootstrap
CD with everything that is needed to compose your own liveCD (perharps an
enhanced version of DFSbuild, with "cleaning/compressing" feature like
localepurge and so ), and only a minimalistic set of what is needed for
basic forensic.
With some precomposed packet-lists included to build rapidly the second
stage iso for people in a hurry.
Something that could be burnt on a business card or a pendrive ?
Matt.
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John Goerzen
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 114
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:01:30PM +0200, Mathieu JANIN wrote:
| Quote: | Hi folks,
i could seem idiot, but wouldn't it be nice to have a minimalistic bootstrap
CD with everything that is needed to compose your own liveCD (perharps an
enhanced version of DFSbuild, with "cleaning/compressing" feature like
localepurge and so ), and only a minimalistic set of what is needed for
basic forensic.
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You could probably do that with dfsbuild and a little bit of scrubbing.
You probably just would want to do things like rm -r /usr/share/doc
/usr/share/man on the generated image.
-- John
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Mathieu JANIN
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 2
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:10 am Post subject:
RE: Package Selection for Debian Live
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Thx,
I know how to build a live CD or a pendrive with what I want on it (almost),
and I know some tweaks to squash down all things (I comme from embedded
developpment and even if it's far away now, this is always a concern for
me).
I was just thinking about your discussion on what kind of LiveCD debian Live
shoud be, and as Debian is some sort of "Mother" for a lot of distrib, I
just suggested that "Debian LIVE" could be the same for debian based
"LiveCD" (a work on genericization of liveCD building under debian).
But it is just a philosophical suggestion, I don't even know how far is
"Debian Live" devel.
(excuse me for my poor english if I didn't make it clear)
Matt.
| Quote: | -----Message d'origine-----
De : John Goerzen [mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org]
Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2006 15:38
À : Mathieu JANIN
Cc : Debian Development
Objet : Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:01:30PM +0200, Mathieu JANIN wrote:
Hi folks,
i could seem idiot, but wouldn't it be nice to have a
minimalistic bootstrap
CD with everything that is needed to compose your own
liveCD (perharps an
enhanced version of DFSbuild, with "cleaning/compressing"
feature like
localepurge and so ), and only a minimalistic set of what
is needed for
basic forensic.
You could probably do that with dfsbuild and a little bit of
scrubbing.
You probably just would want to do things like rm -r /usr/share/doc
/usr/share/man on the generated image.
-- John
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