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need.a.codemaster@gmail.c
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Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject:
Windows Coder Needed
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For a client of ours we are searching someone with the following
knowledge
Windows
Virusscanners
Spyware tools
We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
example changes the results from searchengines.
People download this in trade for services from our side. So we DO NOT
need scripts that automatically install applications, or the
application.
You can get payed on a project base or an hour base.
We pay good money, you make good software. Also we would like you to
keep updating this tool (and get payed ofcourse) if possible.
You can contact us trough
need.a.codemaster@gmail.com
Thanx!
And ps. If your name is Neo of Tr!n!ty of H@ckz0r..... please don't
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Alf P. Steinbach
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Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject:
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* need.a.codemaster@gmail.com spammed in [comp.lang.c]:
| Quote: | For a client of ours we are searching someone with the following
knowledge
Windows
Virusscanners
Spyware tools
We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
example changes the results from searchengines.
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Malware, in other words.
| Quote: | People download this in trade for services from our side. So we DO NOT
need scripts that automatically install applications, or the
application.
You can get payed on a project base or an hour base.
We pay good money, you make good software. Also we would like you to
keep updating this tool (and get payed ofcourse) if possible.
You can contact us trough
need.a.codemaster@gmail.com
Thanx!
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Tom St Denis
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Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 161
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
| Quote: | We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
example changes the results from searchengines.
Malware, in other words.
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Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd just
modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...
Tom |
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Tom St Denis
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 161
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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Gernot Frisch wrote:
| Quote: | We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
example changes the results from searchengines.
Malware, in other words.
Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd
just
modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...
Right. Best would you you give them a few hints on ho to do that and
what to pay attention to, so it'll spread wider than the original.
Tomorrow we're all busy visiting our stupid friends who opened the
"your_message.pif" for the 1000th time.
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I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.
I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day off.
:-)
Tom |
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Gernot Frisch
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 272
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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| Quote: | We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
example changes the results from searchengines.
Malware, in other words.
Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd
just
modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...
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Right. Best would you you give them a few hints on ho to do that and
what to pay attention to, so it'll spread wider than the original.
Tomorrow we're all busy visiting our stupid friends who opened the
"your_message.pif" for the 1000th time. |
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lovecreatesbeauty
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 193
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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Tom St Denis wrote:
| Quote: | Gernot Frisch wrote:
We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
example changes the results from searchengines.
Malware, in other words.
Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd
just
modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...
Right. Best would you you give them a few hints on ho to do that and
what to pay attention to, so it'll spread wider than the original.
Tomorrow we're all busy visiting our stupid friends who opened the
"your_message.pif" for the 1000th time.
I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.
I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day off.
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You're afraid of being a root user? |
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neutron*star
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 2039
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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lovecreatesbeauty said:
| Quote: | Tom St Denis wrote:
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I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.
I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day off.
:-)
You're afraid of being a root user?
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No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to use the
root account except when you really, really have to.
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Gernot Frisch
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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"Richard Heathfield" <invalid@invalid.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:fuOdnR23kP0MBSbZRVnyvQ@bt.com...
| Quote: | lovecreatesbeauty said:
Tom St Denis wrote:
snip
I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.
I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day
off.
:-)
You're afraid of being a root user?
No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to
use the
root account except when you really, really have to.
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Which is almost every minute on Windows.... |
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Michael Wojcik
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject:
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In article <4i1lg6F1no6vU1@individual.net>, "Gernot Frisch" <Me@Privacy.net> writes:
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"Richard Heathfield" <invalid@invalid.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:fuOdnR23kP0MBSbZRVnyvQ@bt.com...
No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to
use the root account except when you really, really have to.
Which is almost every minute on Windows....
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Nonsense. I've been developing software professionally on Windows,
using a non-administrative account for nearly everything I do, since
NT 4.0 was released. People who do everything on Windows using an
administrative account simply haven't bothered to learn how to use
the OS.
Prior to the introduction of the "runas" command, it was useful to
have something like Microsoft Services for Unix installed, so that
you had some equivalent to Unix's "su" and could run individual
commands with a different user's authority. Now that capability is
included with the base OS, and there is no excuse for working as an
administrative user where it's not necessary.
I frequently hear that "some applications, such as Microsoft Office,
don't work if you're not an administrator". I use MS Office - I
loathe it, but it's a company standard - every day, and I have never
had it refuse to do what I needed it to do simply because I was using
a non-administrative account. Because it's full of bugs and
generally brain-dead, yes, but not because I'm not running it as an
administrator.
Windows has many problems, but this is not one of them.
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Gernot Frisch
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Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 272
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:29 am Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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| Quote: | No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is
to
use the root account except when you really, really have to.
Which is almost every minute on Windows....
Nonsense. I've been developing software professionally on Windows,
using a non-administrative account for nearly everything I do, since
NT 4.0 was released. People who do everything on Windows using an
administrative account simply haven't bothered to learn how to use
the OS.
Prior to the introduction of the "runas" command, it was useful to
have something like Microsoft Services for Unix installed, so that
you had some equivalent to Unix's "su" and could run individual
commands with a different user's authority. Now that capability is
included with the base OS, and there is no excuse for working as an
administrative user where it's not necessary.
I frequently hear that "some applications, such as Microsoft Office,
don't work if you're not an administrator". I use MS Office - I
loathe it, but it's a company standard - every day, and I have never
had it refuse to do what I needed it to do simply because I was
using
a non-administrative account. Because it's full of bugs and
generally brain-dead, yes, but not because I'm not running it as an
administrator.
Windows has many problems, but this is not one of them.
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It's not a windows problem. It's the problem of specialist in any area
but programming, who write a good program (good functionality - bad
coding and GUI) that refuse to work as non-admin. Most common mistakes
are:
-write files (temporarily) to the program's directory
-store information in an .ini file (in program or windows directory)
-write to HKLM instead of HKCU
....
There's no problem with Windows these days - it's the coding style of
old school programmers. With Vista a lot will change - at least they
say so...
-G. |
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Michael Wojcik
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Windows Coder Needed
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In article <4i3ka2F20rfrU1@individual.net>, "Gernot Frisch" <Me@Privacy.net> writes:
Please don't remove attribution lines for quoted material.
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No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to
use the root account except when you really, really have to.
Which is almost every minute on Windows....
Nonsense. I've been developing software professionally on Windows,
using a non-administrative account for nearly everything I do, since
NT 4.0 was released. ...
Windows has many problems, but this is not one of them.
It's not a windows problem. It's the problem of specialist in any area
but programming, who write a good program (good functionality - bad
coding and GUI) that refuse to work as non-admin.
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I have never encountered this problem, in all of my years of using
Windows (which long preceed the introduction of any security
mechanisms in Windows, by the way). That is, I have never seen a
"good" (qua useful) Windows application that could not be run by a
non-administrative user, except for utilities which performed
administrative actions (and so correctly required administrative
privilege).
I have rarely encountered bad Windows applications that thought they
required administrative privilege, but in most cases that could be
worked around; and in the remaining cases they weren't worth using
anyway.
| Quote: | Most common mistakes are:
-write files (temporarily) to the program's directory
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If the application is useful, set a less-restrictive ACL on the
directory and more-restrictive ones on the program files.
| Quote: | -store information in an .ini file (in program or windows directory)
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Set a less-restrictive ACL on the .ini file.
| Quote: | -write to HKLM instead of HKCU
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Set a less-restrictive ACL on the registry key, if it's private to
the program. If it's used by other software, then yes, this can be
a problem - but as I said, I've *never* seen it in any useful
software, which makes me wonder how "common" it is.
This is the whole purpose of ACLs - fine-grained access control.
| Quote: | There's no problem with Windows these days - it's the coding style of
old school programmers.
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Certainly, that is a problem.
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