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Bruce Burden
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: 386 ISO vs AMD64 ISO images Reply with quote

Hi folks,

I am considering replacing my 2xAthalons with 2xOpterons.
That should be a plug in replacement of the appropriate hard
ware, the diskdrives and installed software should be good to
go.

Now, is there any advantage to installing clean from the
AMD64 ISO images?

I believe I should be able to change the CPUTYPE in the
make.conf file, move my kernel config to /usr/src/sys/amd64,
and rebuild as per the Makefile and have an 64 bit image, yes?

One thing I am uncertain about - how to I specify the
32 bit libraries are built? I will definitely need them for
the number of ports that are clueless regarding 64 bit.

Thanks,
Bruce
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: 386 ISO vs AMD64 ISO images Reply with quote

In article <e972nr12ufo@enews1.newsguy.com>,
brucegb@realtime.net (Bruce Burden) writes:
Quote:

I believe I should be able to change the CPUTYPE in the
make.conf file, move my kernel config to /usr/src/sys/amd64,
and rebuild as per the Makefile and have an 64 bit image, yes?

No.

Quote:
One thing I am uncertain about - how to I specify the
32 bit libraries are built? I will definitely need them for
the number of ports that are clueless regarding 64 bit.

Install from the ISO and be happy. To get the 32-bit
stuff, you need to add a kernel option (which I can't
remember at the moment) and build world with WITH_LIB32.


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Bruce Burden
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: 386 ISO vs AMD64 ISO images Reply with quote

Steven G. Kargl <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
:
: Install from the ISO and be happy. To get the 32-bit
: stuff, you need to add a kernel option (which I can't
: remember at the moment) and build world with WITH_LIB32.
:
Okay. Is there a handy "migrating from i386 to AMD64"
FAQ you would recommend? I don't see anything right off
hand at the FreeBSD site...

Or am I good once I install the AMD64 ISO?

Bruce
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: 386 ISO vs AMD64 ISO images Reply with quote

In article <e99o2b02uge@enews1.newsguy.com>,
brucegb@realtime.net (Bruce Burden) writes:
Quote:
Steven G. Kargl <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
:
: Install from the ISO and be happy. To get the 32-bit
: stuff, you need to add a kernel option (which I can't
: remember at the moment) and build world with WITH_LIB32.
:
Okay. Is there a handy "migrating from i386 to AMD64"
FAQ you would recommend? I don't see anything right off
hand at the FreeBSD site...

Or am I good once I install the AMD64 ISO?


I'm not sure what you mean by "migrating from i386 to amd64".
FreeBSD-amd64 works the same as freebsd-i386. If you have
a pre-existing installation as always back up any user data
and /etc/ to tape, cdrom, dvd, etc. You may want to use
pkg_info to get a list of packages you have. You'll want to
re-install these ports anyway. Then blow away your old
partitions.

BTW, if you search the freebsd-amd64 list. Peter Wemm wrote
a detailed email of upgrading from i386 to amd64 via the
make world. You really don't want to go down that path.

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Bruce Burden
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 386 ISO vs AMD64 ISO images Reply with quote

Steven G. Kargl <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
:
: I'm not sure what you mean by "migrating from i386 to amd64".
: FreeBSD-amd64 works the same as freebsd-i386.
:
If there were any switches I need to be aware of for
cvsup, etc. to get the AMD sources (well, same source,
different defines, I hope).

It sounds like I am good once I install the AMD64 ISO,
and since I have a disk for that purpose, it sounds like the
route to take.
:
: BTW, if you search the freebsd-amd64 list. Peter Wemm wrote
: a detailed email of upgrading from i386 to amd64 via the
: make world. You really don't want to go down that path.
:
I have subscribed to the mailing list, and I'll take
your word for how errr, "fun" it is to try what I was asking
about. :-)

Thanks!

Bruce
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Matthew Poole
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: 386 ISO vs AMD64 ISO images Reply with quote

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:49:24 +0000, someone purporting to be Bruce Burden
didst scrawl:

Quote:
Steven G. Kargl <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
:
: I'm not sure what you mean by "migrating from i386 to amd64".
: FreeBSD-amd64 works the same as freebsd-i386.
:
If there were any switches I need to be aware of for
cvsup, etc. to get the AMD sources (well, same source,
different defines, I hope).

The sources are all brought down with the standard cvsup config files.

There's no architecture forking of /usr/src based on my examinations of
the supfiles.

Quote:
It sounds like I am good once I install the AMD64 ISO,
and since I have a disk for that purpose, it sounds like the
route to take.
*SNIP*


Definitely the best idea. The horror stories about trying to do binary
upgrades between architectures are legion.

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