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***** charles
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have a new ASROCK K7VM3 motherboard and a
Maxtor DiamonMax Plus 8 40G ATA/133 HDD
6E040L0 which passes all the diag tests.
When I go to the Maxtor knowledge base they say
to get a new controller card or use their overlay soft
ware. No other solutions are listed.
Problem is that the hd only shows up as a 33G
drive from the bios. The limitation jumper is not set
so it should show 40G. I have
used the "wipe drive" feature in the Maxtor diag soft
ware and it still didn't fix this. I know that the drive
should show up as 40G but I can't get it to do this.
I did have the drive in an older motherboard that had
the 33G limitation and ever since then I haven't been
able to get the drive back up to the 40G limit. How
do I fix this since I have done it with others just not
Maxtor?

thanks,
charles....
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Larry Gagnon
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Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:31:15 +0000, ***** charles wrote:

Quote:
Hi all,

I have a new ASROCK K7VM3 motherboard and a
Maxtor DiamonMax Plus 8 40G ATA/133 HDD
6E040L0 which passes all the diag tests.
When I go to the Maxtor knowledge base they say
to get a new controller card or use their overlay soft
ware. No other solutions are listed.
Problem is that the hd only shows up as a 33G
drive from the bios.

Did you actually go into the BIOS and set the drive to "Auto"? and then
save and reboot?
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***** charles
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

"Larry Gagnon" <lggagnon@fakeuniserve.com> wrote in message
Quote:
news:pan.2006.07.14.14.50.07.300991@fakeuniserve.com...
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:31:15 +0000, ***** charles wrote:

Hi all,

I have a new ASROCK K7VM3 motherboard and a
Maxtor DiamonMax Plus 8 40G ATA/133 HDD
6E040L0 which passes all the diag tests.
When I go to the Maxtor knowledge base they say
to get a new controller card or use their overlay soft
ware. No other solutions are listed.
Problem is that the hd only shows up as a 33G
drive from the bios.

Did you actually go into the BIOS and set the drive to "Auto"? and then
save and reboot?

Yes. Drive still comes up with 33G limit.

charles.....
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***** charles
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

"***** charles" <shultzjrX@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
Quote:
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"Larry Gagnon" <lggagnon@fakeuniserve.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.07.14.14.50.07.300991@fakeuniserve.com...
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:31:15 +0000, ***** charles wrote:

Hi all,

I have a new ASROCK K7VM3 motherboard and a
Maxtor DiamonMax Plus 8 40G ATA/133 HDD
6E040L0 which passes all the diag tests.
When I go to the Maxtor knowledge base they say
to get a new controller card or use their overlay soft
ware. No other solutions are listed.
Problem is that the hd only shows up as a 33G
drive from the bios.

Did you actually go into the BIOS and set the drive to "Auto"? and then
save and reboot?

Yes. Drive still comes up with 33G limit.

Called Maxtor tech support, downloaded MaxBlast and this fixes it.

later.........
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Vilmos Soti
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 30 Mar 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

"***** charles" <shultzjrX@sbcglobal.net> writes:

Quote:
"Larry Gagnon" <lggagnon@fakeuniserve.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.07.14.14.50.07.300991@fakeuniserve.com...
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:31:15 +0000, ***** charles wrote:

Hi all,

I have a new ASROCK K7VM3 motherboard and a
Maxtor DiamonMax Plus 8 40G ATA/133 HDD
6E040L0 which passes all the diag tests.
When I go to the Maxtor knowledge base they say
to get a new controller card or use their overlay soft
ware. No other solutions are listed.
Problem is that the hd only shows up as a 33G
drive from the bios.

Did you actually go into the BIOS and set the drive to "Auto"? and then
save and reboot?

Yes. Drive still comes up with 33G limit.

charles.....

What about ignoring it? Linux doesn't use the BIOS to access your
disk except at the very beginning at booting. Once I had an old
P133 computer, and the BIOS hanged at POST if the drive settings
were bigger than 8GB. Linux did recognize, partition, and use
the whole drive. Finally I just let the BIOS think it is only
8GB, so everyone was happy. One thing you might want to ensure
though. Ensure that the sector/track and the head count are
correct, and decrease the cylinder count in the BIOS to make it
happy.

Vilmos
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***** charles
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

"Vilmos Soti" <vilmos@soti.ca> wrote in message
Quote:
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"***** charles" <shultzjrX@sbcglobal.net> writes:

"Larry Gagnon" <lggagnon@fakeuniserve.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.07.14.14.50.07.300991@fakeuniserve.com...
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:31:15 +0000, ***** charles wrote:

Hi all,

I have a new ASROCK K7VM3 motherboard and a
Maxtor DiamonMax Plus 8 40G ATA/133 HDD
6E040L0 which passes all the diag tests.
When I go to the Maxtor knowledge base they say
to get a new controller card or use their overlay soft
ware. No other solutions are listed.
Problem is that the hd only shows up as a 33G
drive from the bios.

Did you actually go into the BIOS and set the drive to "Auto"? and then
save and reboot?

Yes. Drive still comes up with 33G limit.

charles.....

What about ignoring it? Linux doesn't use the BIOS to access your
disk except at the very beginning at booting. Once I had an old
P133 computer, and the BIOS hanged at POST if the drive settings
were bigger than 8GB. Linux did recognize, partition, and use
the whole drive. Finally I just let the BIOS think it is only
8GB, so everyone was happy. One thing you might want to ensure
though. Ensure that the sector/track and the head count are
correct, and decrease the cylinder count in the BIOS to make it
happy.

Vilmos

Thanks for the response. I usually check out my hardware in a
DOS/Windows environment since I am much more familiar in that
arena. When the hardware list came up and said 33G when it should
have said 41G I wanted to correct it. M$ fdisk would only "see"
33G of the whole thing so when I MaxBlasted it, that fixed the problem.
MaxBlast has a utility built in that is called "set max size" that cured it.
Funny, the drive seemed to run a lot hotter before I reset it. Now it is
cooler. There seem to be a lot more utilities for stuff like this in the
DOS/Windows world.

Now that I am sure the drive is working properly, it passed all
the diags and when I put Ubuntu on it, if there are any problems, I
will know that they aren't caused by hardware.

thanks,
charles....
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iforone
*nix forums Guru


Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 330

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

***** charles wrote:
Quote:
"Vilmos Soti" <vilmos@soti.ca> wrote in message

Thanks for the response. I usually check out my hardware in a
DOS/Windows environment since I am much more familiar in that
arena. When the hardware list came up and said 33G when it should
have said 41G I wanted to correct it. M$ fdisk would only "see"
33G of the whole thing so when I MaxBlasted it, that fixed the problem.
MaxBlast has a utility built in that is called "set max size" that cured it.
Funny, the drive seemed to run a lot hotter before I reset it. Now it is
cooler. There seem to be a lot more utilities for stuff like this in the
DOS/Windows world.

Now that I am sure the drive is working properly, it passed all
the diags and when I put Ubuntu on it, if there are any problems, I
will know that they aren't caused by hardware.

thanks,
charles....

FWIW - my older Intel, PII mobo (circa 2000) only recognizes 65Gigs(?)
of my 80GB drive -- the 'updated' win98/me FDisk utility (d/l from
Microshaft's site) can recognize the full size of the 80GB, but my BIOS
still sees only 60 some-odd GBs (yes, the BIOS is the latest available
- circa 2000).

No bother to me, as long as the OSes (Debian Sid + Win98 dual boot)
can/does utilize the whole drive. My Debian install (as of now) happens
to be on the Orig WD drive that was new (9.1GB only) when the system
was made -- but I previously had Debian installed on the 80GB too.

I suspect different translation parameters (LBA) between HDD Manu and
their utilities -- on any drives newer, than say oh, ~1999, one
shouldn't need to enter the CHS in the BIOS, as these newer drives use
ZonedBit recording and LBA to address the locations/regions/tracks.
Therefore the AUTO setting (in the BIOS) should suffice for most every
drive (as long as the drive's *jumpers* are set correctly), as it's
onboard Controller will communicate that info to the BIOS.

Just my .02 ;-)

Regards
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chuck@nil.car
*nix forums Guru Wannabe


Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 100

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Hard drive limit? Reply with quote

"iforone" <floydstestemail@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1152980625.559163.178380@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Quote:

***** charles wrote:

I suspect different translation parameters (LBA) between HDD Manu and
their utilities -- on any drives newer, than say oh, ~1999, one
shouldn't need to enter the CHS in the BIOS, as these newer drives use
ZonedBit recording and LBA to address the locations/regions/tracks.
Therefore the AUTO setting (in the BIOS) should suffice for most every
drive (as long as the drive's *jumpers* are set correctly), as it's
onboard Controller will communicate that info to the BIOS.

Just my .02 ;-)



The *only* downside to that is a bit longer on boot while the bios ID's
the drive - can be quite a few seconds as opposed to immediate if the
CHS are entered.


Quote:
Regards





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