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Philipp Hug
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: MTA in base system installation Reply with quote

Is it really necessary to have a full blown MTA in the base installation?
Wouldn't it make more sense to just install a simple store-and-forward proxy
(e.g nullmailer)?
Or are there other alternatives that just provide a sendmail wrapper?


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Stephen Frost
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: MTA in base system installation Reply with quote

* Philipp Hug (debian@hug.cx) wrote:
Quote:
Is it really necessary to have a full blown MTA in the base installation?
Wouldn't it make more sense to just install a simple store-and-forward proxy
(e.g nullmailer)?
Or are there other alternatives that just provide a sendmail wrapper?

Well, would you like cron to *work* on a base installation? I would,
not that I'm exactly happy about exim being the choice, but whatever.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: MTA in base system installation Reply with quote

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Philipp Hug wrote:
Quote:
Is it really necessary to have a full blown MTA in the base installation?

What the hell is a "base installation"?

Quote:
Wouldn't it make more sense to just install a simple store-and-forward proxy
(e.g nullmailer)?
Or are there other alternatives that just provide a sendmail wrapper?

Install whatever you want. You're free to install nullmailer, ssmtp,
etc.

Anything that Provides: mail-transport-agent; will work just fine;
ala:

courier-mta
esmtp-run
exim
exim4-daemon-heavy
exim4-daemon-light
masqmail
nullmailer
postfix
sendmail-bin
smail
ssmtp
xmail
zmailer


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: MTA in base system installation Reply with quote

Quoting Don Armstrong (don@debian.org):
Quote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Philipp Hug wrote:
Is it really necessary to have a full blown MTA in the base installation?

What the hell is a "base installation"?


....what you get when installing from scratch and choose no task in
tasksel.

You then end up with exim4 installed.



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Philipp Hug
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: MTA in base system installation Reply with quote

Quote:
What the hell is a "base installation"?

The list of packages that gets installed by d-i/debootstrap...

Quote:
Install whatever you want. You're free to install nullmailer, ssmtp,
etc.

I know I can replace it with whatever I want, that's not the point.

I'm just wondering if it makes sense to have a full MTA installed by default.


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Don Armstrong
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: MTA in base system installation Reply with quote

[First off, please follow debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing
me. Secondly, this discussion is more appropriate for -user, not
-devel. MFT set appropriately.]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Philipp Hug wrote:
Quote:
What the hell is a "base installation"?

The list of packages that gets installed by d-i/debootstrap...

debootstrap doesn't install anything that requires a
mail-transport-agent.

Quote:
Install whatever you want. You're free to install nullmailer,
ssmtp, etc.

I know I can replace it with whatever I want, that's not the point.
I'm just wondering if it makes sense to have a full MTA installed by
default.

It does if you want mail to be deliverable locally on a machine
without a network connection at all. It's really a personal decision,
and exim is probably a reasonable default.


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