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Fred Krogh *nix forums beginner
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject:
No mouse on IBM T21
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This is a continuation of problems I've had getting X going on an IBM
T21 using kernel 2.6.10. At this point gnome starts, but the mouse and
the trackpoint do nothing. The kernel is compiled with psaux support.
I have posted xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log at
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf and
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log
Any suggestions most welcome. Thanks,
Fred |
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Dances With Crows *nix forums Guru
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:57 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Well, the thing *looks* like it should be OK. The 2.6 kernel may
provide some insight though... what's "cat /proc/cmdline" say? It
should be something like
root=/dev/hda5 psmouse.proto=bare
....because this T21 machine uses the "bare" PS/2 protocol by default,
and trying to probe for imps or exps may confuse the poor little
Trackpoint's brain. If that psmouse.proto= parameter isn't there, then
dumb things may happen (like the kernel not probing for any PS/2 mice!).
I don't remember exactly what happened when I screwed up that parameter
the first time I tried booting a 2.6.10 kernel, but ISTR that an edit of
/boot/grub/menu.lst and a reboot (argh) were required. Anyway... the
psmouse thing is just the first thing I'd check, it's possible the
problem is something else entirely.
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Fred Krogh *nix forums beginner
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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Dances With Crows wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:57 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
This is a continuation of problems I've had getting X going on an IBM
T21 using kernel 2.6.10. At this point gnome starts, but the mouse
and the trackpoint do nothing. The kernel is compiled with psaux
support.
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log
Well, the thing *looks* like it should be OK. The 2.6 kernel may
provide some insight though... what's "cat /proc/cmdline" say? It
should be something like
root=/dev/hda5 psmouse.proto=bare
...because this T21 machine uses the "bare" PS/2 protocol by default,
and trying to probe for imps or exps may confuse the poor little
Trackpoint's brain. If that psmouse.proto= parameter isn't there, then
dumb things may happen (like the kernel not probing for any PS/2 mice!).
I don't remember exactly what happened when I screwed up that parameter
the first time I tried booting a 2.6.10 kernel, but ISTR that an edit of
/boot/grub/menu.lst and a reboot (argh) were required. Anyway... the
psmouse thing is just the first thing I'd check, it's possible the
problem is something else entirely.
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I am getting "root=/dev/hda3". After a bit of fishing around, I still
have no idea how to get /proc/cmdline set to what you suggest. The grub
docs. were not sufficient for me to see what to put in grub.1st. It
seems as though you have once again put your finger the problem though.
Many thanks,
Fred |
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Dances With Crows *nix forums Guru
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 328
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:16:49 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
| Quote: | Dances With Crows wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:57 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
This is a continuation of problems I've had getting X going on an IBM
T21 using kernel 2.6.10. At this point gnome starts, but the mouse
and the trackpoint do nothing. The kernel is compiled with psaux
support.
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log
"cat /proc/cmdline" say? It should be something like
root=/dev/hda5 psmouse.proto=bare
If that psmouse.proto= parameter isn't there, then dumb things may
happen (like the kernel not probing for any PS/2 mice!). I don't
remember exactly what happened when I screwed up that parameter the
first time I tried booting a 2.6.10 kernel, but ISTR that an edit of
/boot/grub/menu.lst and a reboot (argh) were required. Anyway... the
I am getting "root=/dev/hda3". After a bit of fishing around, I still
have no idea how to get /proc/cmdline set to what you suggest.
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/proc/cmdline is set to the command line that was used to launch the
kernel. This is set by the bootloader before any kernel starts.
| Quote: | grub docs. were not sufficient for me to see what to put in grub.1st.
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GRUB info/man pages are... annoying. One GRUB stanza is like so:
title=Gentoo Linux 2.4.26
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/2.4.26 hdc=ide-scsi root=/dev/hda6
....the string "hdc=ide-scsi root=/dev/hda6" is present in my
/proc/cmdline on my laptop. So, all you have to do is edit
/boot/grub/menu.lst and add the string "psmouse.proto=bare" to the end
of the line where you have "kernel /boot/2.6.10". And then reboot
(sigh) and see if it works. There's a pretty good breakdown of how to
configure GRUB in the Gentoo handbook;
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10 .
| Quote: | It seems as though you have once again put your finger the problem
though.
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Don't count the problem solved until all the bits are working perfectly!
Oh well, try it out, see if it works, if so, yay! If not, we'll keep
going....
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / mail: TRAP + SPAN don't belong
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Fred Krogh *nix forums beginner
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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Dances With Crows wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:16:49 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Dances With Crows wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:57 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
This is a continuation of problems I've had getting X going on an IBM
T21 using kernel 2.6.10. At this point gnome starts, but the mouse
and the trackpoint do nothing. The kernel is compiled with psaux
support.
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log
"cat /proc/cmdline" say? It should be something like
root=/dev/hda5 psmouse.proto=bare
If that psmouse.proto= parameter isn't there, then dumb things may
happen (like the kernel not probing for any PS/2 mice!). I don't
remember exactly what happened when I screwed up that parameter the
first time I tried booting a 2.6.10 kernel, but ISTR that an edit of
/boot/grub/menu.lst and a reboot (argh) were required. Anyway... the
I am getting "root=/dev/hda3". After a bit of fishing around, I still
have no idea how to get /proc/cmdline set to what you suggest.
/proc/cmdline is set to the command line that was used to launch the
kernel. This is set by the bootloader before any kernel starts.
grub docs. were not sufficient for me to see what to put in grub.1st.
GRUB info/man pages are... annoying. One GRUB stanza is like so:
title=Gentoo Linux 2.4.26
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/2.4.26 hdc=ide-scsi root=/dev/hda6
...the string "hdc=ide-scsi root=/dev/hda6" is present in my
/proc/cmdline on my laptop. So, all you have to do is edit
/boot/grub/menu.lst and add the string "psmouse.proto=bare" to the end
of the line where you have "kernel /boot/2.6.10". And then reboot
(sigh) and see if it works. There's a pretty good breakdown of how to
configure GRUB in the Gentoo handbook;
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10 .
It seems as though you have once again put your finger the problem
though.
Don't count the problem solved until all the bits are working perfectly!
Oh well, try it out, see if it works, if so, yay! If not, we'll keep
going....
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I certainly appreciate you willingness "to keep going". Silly me, I
thought this was the solution. cat /proc/cmdline now gives
"root=/dev/hda3 psmouse.proto=bare", but neither mouse does anything. I
have replaced http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log with the latest
result. There is a diagnostic at the end of that file, but I believe it
is not part of the problem, but ...? Thanks again,
Fred |
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Dances With Crows *nix forums Guru
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 328
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:14 am Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:49:32 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Sorry for the delay; stuff keeps happening here.
| Quote: | Dances With Crows wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:16:49 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Dances With Crows wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:57 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
IBM T21 using kernel 2.6.10. At this point gnome starts, but the
mouse and the trackpoint do nothing. The kernel is compiled with
psaux support.
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
If that psmouse.proto= parameter isn't there, then dumb things may
happen (like the kernel not probing for any PS/2 mice!). I don't
[snip]
So, all you have to do is edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the string
"psmouse.proto=bare" to the end of the line where you have "kernel
/boot/2.6.10". And then reboot (sigh) and see if it works.
[snip]
Don't count the problem solved until the bits are working perfectly!
thought this was the solution. cat /proc/cmdline now gives
"root=/dev/hda3 psmouse.proto=bare", but neither mouse does anything.
I have replaced http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log with the
latest result. There is a diagnostic at the end of that file, but I
believe it is not part of the problem, but ...? Thanks again,
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OK, I got 2.6.10 running on my A22p, and with psmouse.proto=bare in the
kernel command line, everything works. No change to xorg.conf; the same
X config works properly whether I'm using 2.4.28 or 2.6.10. The
last 3 messages from your X log are this:
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "PS2Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
(II) PS2Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
AUDIT: Mon Feb 14 17:03:49 2005: 5898 X: client 4 rejected from local
host
....so X found the mouse, or so it thinks. I'm almost positive that the
AUDIT line is not related to this mouse problem. What I'd do now is
this:
0. Go into the machine's BIOS Setup and make sure the TrackPoint is
enabled. Yes, it'd be dumb to have it disabled, but sometimes people do
dumb things.
1. Check IRQ 12 by doing "cat /proc/interrupts", push the Trackpoint
around, check IRQ 12 again. The number of IRQs received on 12 should
increase when you push the Trackpoint. If it doesn't, there's a problem
with the hardware or with the kernel bits; if it does, there's a problem
with X's config.
2. Comment out the AllowMouseOpenFail line in your xorg.conf, restart X,
see if it fails to start. It may write a slightly more verbose
explanation of what went wrong to Xorg.0.log if it dies.
3. Drink a beer. You probably need one after all this hassle :-)
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / mail: TRAP + SPAN don't belong
http://www.brainbench.com / Hire me!
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Fred Krogh *nix forums beginner
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:52 am Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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Dances With Crows wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:49:32 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Sorry for the delay; stuff keeps happening here.
Dances With Crows wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:16:49 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Dances With Crows wrote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:54:57 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
IBM T21 using kernel 2.6.10. At this point gnome starts, but the
mouse and the trackpoint do nothing. The kernel is compiled with
psaux support.
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
If that psmouse.proto= parameter isn't there, then dumb things may
happen (like the kernel not probing for any PS/2 mice!). I don't
[snip]
So, all you have to do is edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the string
"psmouse.proto=bare" to the end of the line where you have "kernel
/boot/2.6.10". And then reboot (sigh) and see if it works.
[snip]
Don't count the problem solved until the bits are working perfectly!
thought this was the solution. cat /proc/cmdline now gives
"root=/dev/hda3 psmouse.proto=bare", but neither mouse does anything.
I have replaced http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log with the
latest result. There is a diagnostic at the end of that file, but I
believe it is not part of the problem, but ...? Thanks again,
OK, I got 2.6.10 running on my A22p, and with psmouse.proto=bare in the
kernel command line, everything works. No change to xorg.conf; the same
X config works properly whether I'm using 2.4.28 or 2.6.10. The
last 3 messages from your X log are this:
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "PS2Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
(II) PS2Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
AUDIT: Mon Feb 14 17:03:49 2005: 5898 X: client 4 rejected from local
host
...so X found the mouse, or so it thinks. I'm almost positive that the
AUDIT line is not related to this mouse problem. What I'd do now is
this:
0. Go into the machine's BIOS Setup and make sure the TrackPoint is
enabled. Yes, it'd be dumb to have it disabled, but sometimes people do
dumb things.
1. Check IRQ 12 by doing "cat /proc/interrupts", push the Trackpoint
around, check IRQ 12 again. The number of IRQs received on 12 should
increase when you push the Trackpoint. If it doesn't, there's a problem
with the hardware or with the kernel bits; if it does, there's a problem
with X's config.
2. Comment out the AllowMouseOpenFail line in your xorg.conf, restart X,
see if it fails to start. It may write a slightly more verbose
explanation of what went wrong to Xorg.0.log if it dies.
3. Drink a beer. You probably need one after all this hassle :-)
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Thank you so much for sticking with this. I had disabled the
trackpoint, but this was just the latest action in a lot of desperate
attempts.
The check if IRQ 12 was insightful. It is not even listed. And no
other interrupts change (other than timer and i8042) when I move the
mouse. Same is true when the serial mouse is plugged in and it moves.
A close look at the kernel configuration and I saw that my mouse and
serial port were set as loadable modules. I guess I did this as I
didn't know what was needed and figured it was better not to load
something wrong and let Linux figure out what needed to be loaded. BIG
mistake. With the new kernel the trackpoint works. The serial mouse
does not. I've posted the following
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf X11 config
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log X11 log file
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/config-2.6.10 Kernel Configuration
The cmdline still has psmouse.proto=bare in it.
If your patience is not exhausted I'd love to get the serial mouse
going. For what it is worth, here are the current interrupts (copy and
paste is working!).
t21 root # cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0
0: 1502161 XT-PIC timer
1: 1566 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
7: 42 XT-PIC parport0
9: 10 XT-PIC acpi, yenta
10: 3 XT-PIC uhci_hcd
11: 453 XT-PIC yenta, eth0
12: 13030 XT-PIC i8042
14: 4334 XT-PIC ide0
15: 16 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
ERR: 0
Meanwhile it wonderful to have a system that can be used.
Many many thanks for your wonderful assistance,
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Dances With Crows *nix forums Guru
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:52:26 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
| Quote: | Dances With Crows wrote:
[ problems with the Trackpoint on a Thinkpad T21, snipped]
0. Go into the machine's BIOS Setup and make sure the TrackPoint is
enabled. Yes, it'd be dumb to have it disabled, but sometimes people
do dumb things.
3. Drink a beer. You probably need one after all this hassle
Thank you so much for sticking with this. I had disabled the
trackpoint, but this was just the latest action in a lot of desperate
attempts.
The check if IRQ 12 was insightful. It is not even listed. A close
look at the kernel configuration and I saw that my mouse and serial
port were set as loadable modules.
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PS/2 mouse support should usually be built in to the kernel. If for
some reason, you want to have it as a module, the line "psmouse" must be
present in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 , so it'll be loaded
before X starts.
When you say "serial port", what did you really mean? The 9-pin port on
the back of the machine is the serial port. The rectangular port that's
about 13mm * 4mm and has 4 wires is the USB port. USB != serial.
| Quote: | know what was needed and figured it was better not to load something
wrong and let Linux figure out what needed to be loaded. BIG mistake.
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Most of the time, modules are better, but there are a few things that
need to be built in. (IDE disk support, ELF binary support, support for
the filesystem where your / is, SCSI support, SCSI disk support, and
support for your SCSI card if your / is on a SCSI disk.) The real
problem is probably related to devfs/udev. Typically, the kernel looks
at /etc/modules.conf and loads module NNN when a device with major
number M is accessed. But with devfs/udev, the device with major M
doesn't typically exist until the module is loaded! (That's why you put
a bunch of modules in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ; when all the
stuff you need is loaded, all the devices exist, and everyone's happy.)
| Quote: | With the new kernel the trackpoint works. The serial mouse does not.
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Your X config file has a USB mouse defined, but no serial mice. Make
sure your terminology is correct; it saves a lot of hassle. I'm going
to assume that you meant "USB mouse" because that makes more sense--
9-pin serial mice are fairly rare these days.
(uhci_hcd, usbcore, usbhid are all built in to the kernel)
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USBMouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2" # should be IMPS/2; all USB mice use that.
Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
# This isn't right, I think. Try /dev/input/mouse1 or mouse0.
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Don't use this if your mouse has a wheel.
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50 # or this
# Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" # If your USB mouse has a wheel.
EndSection
# in ServerLayout section
InputDevice "PS2Mouse" "CorePointer"
# InputDevice "USBMouse" "CorePointer"
# Change that to
InputDevice "USBMouse" "SendCoreEvents"
# since X won't use the device if it's commented out, and you can only
# have one CorePointer IIRC. Change config file, restart X and try
# again (sigh).
| Quote: | t21 root # cat /proc/interrupts
0: 1502161 XT-PIC timer
1: 1566 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
7: 42 XT-PIC parport0
9: 10 XT-PIC acpi, yenta
10: 3 XT-PIC uhci_hcd
11: 453 XT-PIC yenta, eth0
12: 13030 XT-PIC i8042
14: 4334 XT-PIC ide0
15: 16 XT-PIC ide1
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Looks fairly reasonable to me.
| Quote: | Many many thanks for your wonderful assistance,
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No problem.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / mail: TRAP + SPAN don't belong
http://www.brainbench.com / Hire me!
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Fred Krogh *nix forums beginner
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:53 am Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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Dances With Crows wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:52:26 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Dances With Crows wrote:
[ problems with the Trackpoint on a Thinkpad T21, snipped]
0. Go into the machine's BIOS Setup and make sure the TrackPoint is
enabled. Yes, it'd be dumb to have it disabled, but sometimes people
do dumb things.
3. Drink a beer. You probably need one after all this hassle :-)
Thank you so much for sticking with this. I had disabled the
trackpoint, but this was just the latest action in a lot of desperate
attempts.
The check if IRQ 12 was insightful. It is not even listed. A close
look at the kernel configuration and I saw that my mouse and serial
port were set as loadable modules.
PS/2 mouse support should usually be built in to the kernel. If for
some reason, you want to have it as a module, the line "psmouse" must be
present in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 , so it'll be loaded
before X starts.
When you say "serial port", what did you really mean? The 9-pin port on
the back of the machine is the serial port. The rectangular port that's
about 13mm * 4mm and has 4 wires is the USB port. USB != serial.
know what was needed and figured it was better not to load something
wrong and let Linux figure out what needed to be loaded. BIG mistake.
Most of the time, modules are better, but there are a few things that
need to be built in. (IDE disk support, ELF binary support, support for
the filesystem where your / is, SCSI support, SCSI disk support, and
support for your SCSI card if your / is on a SCSI disk.) The real
problem is probably related to devfs/udev. Typically, the kernel looks
at /etc/modules.conf and loads module NNN when a device with major
number M is accessed. But with devfs/udev, the device with major M
doesn't typically exist until the module is loaded! (That's why you put
a bunch of modules in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ; when all the
stuff you need is loaded, all the devices exist, and everyone's happy.)
With the new kernel the trackpoint works. The serial mouse does not.
Your X config file has a USB mouse defined, but no serial mice. Make
sure your terminology is correct; it saves a lot of hassle. I'm going
to assume that you meant "USB mouse" because that makes more sense--
9-pin serial mice are fairly rare these days.
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/config-2.6.10
(uhci_hcd, usbcore, usbhid are all built in to the kernel)
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USBMouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2" # should be IMPS/2; all USB mice use that.
Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
# This isn't right, I think. Try /dev/input/mouse1 or mouse0.
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Don't use this if your mouse has a wheel.
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50 # or this
# Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" # If your USB mouse has a wheel.
EndSection
# in ServerLayout section
InputDevice "PS2Mouse" "CorePointer"
# InputDevice "USBMouse" "CorePointer"
# Change that to
InputDevice "USBMouse" "SendCoreEvents"
# since X won't use the device if it's commented out, and you can only
# have one CorePointer IIRC. Change config file, restart X and try
# again (sigh).
t21 root # cat /proc/interrupts
0: 1502161 XT-PIC timer
1: 1566 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
7: 42 XT-PIC parport0
9: 10 XT-PIC acpi, yenta
10: 3 XT-PIC uhci_hcd
11: 453 XT-PIC yenta, eth0
12: 13030 XT-PIC i8042
14: 4334 XT-PIC ide0
15: 16 XT-PIC ide1
Looks fairly reasonable to me.
Many many thanks for your wonderful assistance,
No problem.
Just a quick response. It turns out I'm using a very old mouse. I'll |
either need to get a USB mouse, or change xorg.conf for the support of
the serial mouse. At the moment I'm totally swamped and the laptop is
actually quite usable. When all is together, I'll write up a short
summary and post it here and one other place.
Thanks again,
Fred |
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