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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: CDE login failure Reply with quote

Hello,

I have a user running Tru64. This machine can be ssh'd into,
no problem. Logging in locally through the CDE login screen it
accepts username and password and then goes off and all you see
is the CDE login icon and a blue screened background and it sits
there for ever.

We can login using the Failsafe mode or the Command Line mode.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what is failing?

Thanks,
Cathy
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Adam Price
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Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

On 8 Jun 2005 07:31:21 -0700, cahouf@sandia.gov wrote:

Quote:
Hello,

I have a user running Tru64. This machine can be ssh'd into,
no problem. Logging in locally through the CDE login screen it
accepts username and password and then goes off and all you see
is the CDE login icon and a blue screened background and it sits
there for ever.

We can login using the Failsafe mode or the Command Line mode.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what is failing?

Usually a networking issue of some kind. Make sure that the machine can

resolve it's own hostname.
Adam
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Guest






PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

thanks, i've looked at this. It seems to be fine we're able to ssh in
if the hostname
resolution wasn't working I don't think ssh would have let us in?

What do you know about dtlogin? could it be related?
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Eric de Redelijkheid
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Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Posts: 55

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

Anno Domini 8-6-2005 21:42, cahouf@sandia.gov sprak aldus:

Quote:
thanks, i've looked at this. It seems to be fine we're able to ssh in
if the hostname
resolution wasn't working I don't think ssh would have let us in?

What do you know about dtlogin? could it be related?



The /etc/hosts file should at least contain two entries. For example a

host with fully qualified domainname machine.domain.com this should read:

127.0.0.1 localhost
10.0.30.5 machine machine.domain.com
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Guest






PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

Hi,

So as far as I can tell the network is fine. I can login using ssh,
all of the network files
look to be okay. The machine has been up on the network for 4 years -
i'm not aware
of any changes - there might have been. I'm not sure if this problem
is network related.

It seems odd that we can login via ssh, failsafe and command line modes
but not through
regular desktop mode. I'm a linux user and I dabble with tru64 only
when I have to.

I appreciate everyone's thoughts and suggestions, I'm willing to try
anything.

Cathy
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Guest






PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

I can do nslookup on the host and it resolves. I can ping other
machines outside of its own network with no problems. The resolv.conf
file looks good. The /etc/networks file only has the loop information
should it also have the host information?

Cathy
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Brian Haley
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Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

cahouf@sandia.gov wrote:

Quote:
It seems odd that we can login via ssh, failsafe and command line modes
but not through
regular desktop mode. I'm a linux user and I dabble with tru64 only
when I have to.

I'm not a CDE user, but maybe there's something in his startup files
causing a problem. Try moving the ~/.dt directory and ~/.dtprofile out
of the way and try again. If that doesn't work start going through his
login files to see if something's changed recently.

-Brian
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Guest






PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

thanks Brian, I'll give this a shot and let you know.

Cathy
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Guest






PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

In the /usr/var/adm/messages file it says /usr: file system full could
this be the problem?
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andy thomas
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Brian Haley wrote:

Quote:
cahouf@sandia.gov wrote:

It seems odd that we can login via ssh, failsafe and command line modes
but not through
regular desktop mode. I'm a linux user and I dabble with tru64 only
when I have to.

I'm not a CDE user, but maybe there's something in his startup files
causing a problem. Try moving the ~/.dt directory and ~/.dtprofile out
of the way and try again. If that doesn't work start going through his
login files to see if something's changed recently.

We have users who use both Linux and Tru64 systems, with home directories
imported from separate Tru64 servers via NFS, and they mostly use the csh
or tcsh default shells. There have been a number of instances where a user
has made changes to his/her .login and/or .cshrc files from a Linux
machine and then found themselves locked out of the Alpha systems and
unable to login via CDE. (And vice-versa too).

Try moving .cshrc anc/or .login out of the way and then try logging in.

Andy
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andy thomas
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

On 10 Jun 2005 cahouf@sandia.gov wrote:

Quote:
In the /usr/var/adm/messages file it says /usr: file system full could
this be the problem?

Which file system is full? If it's the filesystem that contains the user's
home directory, then this will probably prevent the user logging in as CDE
needs to update certain hidden files in the user's home directory at login
time. (The same thing happens in Linux if you use a graphical login, eg
run level 5 - if you home filesystem is full, you can't login through the
GUI screen but you can through a console screen as console logins don't
need to ypdate user files).

Andy
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Guest






PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

Thanks for all of your suggestions. I have asked the user to reboot to
see
if moving his .cshrc and .login files to another location fixes it.
Also, it
was suggested to me to try another ELSA GLoria Synergy graphics card.
Maybe this card is going bad. The machine is only 4 years old (time
for
this guy to get something newer).

Cathy
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Adam Price
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Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

On 10 Jun 2005 08:03:34 -0700, cahouf@sandia.gov wrote:

Quote:
In the /usr/var/adm/messages file it says /usr: file system full could
this be the problem?

It won't be helping.
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Michael Kraemer
*nix forums Guru Wannabe


Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: CDE login failure Reply with quote

In article <1118415814.498766.166360@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, cahouf@sandia.gov writes:
Quote:
In the /usr/var/adm/messages file it says /usr: file system full could
this be the problem?

I would certainly follow this hint.
IIRC in Tru64 /var is "part" of /usr by default,
and IIRC CDE tries to write into /var/dt, e.g. into
/var/dt/Xerrors and /var/dt/tmp.

Besides that, your problem looks similar to a network problem
I had on an AIX box with 2 NICs where the wrong one was configured.
One could reach the machine from outside-in, but couldn't
connect from inside-out. And since CDE-logins are very sensitive on
properly functioning network configurations, CDE didn't work
until the network issues were fixed.
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