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Jeroen van Wolffelaar
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject:
Re: unrar version confusion
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:04:07AM -0300, Jose Carlos do Nascimento wrote:
| Quote: | Hi, all
I read all comments, but I didnt understood what I need to do.
Ola Lundqvist is my sponsor, but if Jeroen or other could upload , I
will be grateful, because Ola is very busyed.
Can I have 2 sponsors ?
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You can have 900 if you can find 900 people replying to your requests
still having a key in the keyring  .
Each upload needs one sponsor, it's strongly adviseable to stick with
one sponsor per package though, because that reduces work for the
sponsor and gets you consistency in comments. But it's not needed.
For here, I'd be happy if Ola could sponsor you, regardless, no new
upload needed before sarge releases.
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Jose Carlos do Nascimento
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Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:00 pm Post subject:
Re: unrar version confusion
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Hi, all
I read all comments, but I didnt understood what I need to do.
Ola Lundqvist is my sponsor, but if Jeroen or other could upload , I
will be grateful, because Ola is very busyed.
Can I have 2 sponsors ?
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Jose Carlos
| Quote: | I'm the (previous) maintainer of unrar. Jose Carlos Medeiros has offered to
adopt it.
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 02:36:50PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 12:41:11AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
- rename the unrar-nonfree package back to unrar
- rename the free unnrar package to unrar-free (it can even be left out
of sarge (version 0.0.1 that is the one year old latest upstream
version...))
- get the non-free package that is again named unrar back into sarge
I support your suggestions of renaming. I also think there should be an
unrar implementation in the next Debian stable. Currently there is none.
(The Debian project distributes a non-free unrar from its servers, but it's
not part of Debian.)
I've kept unrar intentionally out of sarge because of incompability
problems. Changing the package name and fixing rest of the bugs (I've sent
some patches) would allow it go in.
Once the free unrar matured enough, it can probably ultimately replace
unrar (again), but until that time, I really do believe the free unrar
should be named differently until that point is reached. I offer my
assistance to get this happening again because of what I've done to
unstable at the moment.
Jose, have you got any comments? Have you got a sponsor? Jeroen, could you
sponsor Jose if needed?
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Jose Carlos do Nascimento
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject:
Re: unrar version confusion
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| Quote: | Hi, all
I read all comments, but I didnt understood what I need to do.
Ola Lundqvist is my sponsor, but if Jeroen or other could upload , I
will be grateful, because Ola is very busyed.
Can I have 2 sponsors ?
You can have 900 if you can find 900 people replying to your requests
still having a key in the keyring .
Each upload needs one sponsor, it's strongly adviseable to stick with
one sponsor per package though, because that reduces work for the
sponsor and gets you consistency in comments. But it's not needed.
For here, I'd be happy if Ola could sponsor you, regardless, no new
upload needed before sarge releases.
--Jeroen
Ah, ok |
Its very good,, but is very difficult to find sponsors, because they
always are very busy. 
Well,, now Im waiting for Sarge release, and after I will send my
packages to Ola.
About unrar, what need I to do ? did I adopt what version of unrar ?
Jose Carlos
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Steve Langasek
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 730
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:20 am Post subject:
Re: unrar version confusion
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On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 02:36:50PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 12:41:11AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
- rename the unrar-nonfree package back to unrar
- rename the free unnrar package to unrar-free (it can even be left out
of sarge (version 0.0.1 that is the one year old latest upstream
version...))
- get the non-free package that is again named unrar back into sarge
I've done the first point, neglecting the second point for now, and the
third point is an RM decision.
My rationale to do this, is:
- woody shipped with a non-free unrar named 'unrar', and it worked
- the free version is not functionally equivalent yet, of the .rar files
in the wild, I couldn't actually find a single one that was
unpackeable with the free unrar.
- So, it's too late now to have sarge ship with a free alternative,
because development of that one simply hasn't reached a functionally
(nearly-?) equivalent version. For etch, let's see, but for sarge,
let's just maintain the situation as it was in woody: a non-free
'unrar' for people not objecting to non-free who want to unrar files.
Once the free unrar matured enough, it can probably ultimately replace
unrar (again), but until that time, I really do believe the free unrar
should be named differently until that point is reached. I offer my
assistance to get this happening again because of what I've done to
unstable at the moment.
RMs, please review unrar-nonfree 1:3.5.2-0.1, restoring a new version of
the unrar that was in woody to sarge.
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Approved.
I had rather hoped to see some feedback from the current unrar-nonfree
maintainer about this package name change, though. Chris, is this NMUed
change ok with you?
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Chris Anderson
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 27 May 2005
Posts: 1
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject:
Re: unrar version confusion
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On 5/27/05 9:16 AM, "Steve Langasek" <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 02:36:50PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 12:41:11AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
- rename the unrar-nonfree package back to unrar
- rename the free unnrar package to unrar-free (it can even be left out
of sarge (version 0.0.1 that is the one year old latest upstream
version...))
- get the non-free package that is again named unrar back into sarge
I've done the first point, neglecting the second point for now, and the
third point is an RM decision.
My rationale to do this, is:
- woody shipped with a non-free unrar named 'unrar', and it worked
- the free version is not functionally equivalent yet, of the .rar files
in the wild, I couldn't actually find a single one that was
unpackeable with the free unrar.
- So, it's too late now to have sarge ship with a free alternative,
because development of that one simply hasn't reached a functionally
(nearly-?) equivalent version. For etch, let's see, but for sarge,
let's just maintain the situation as it was in woody: a non-free
'unrar' for people not objecting to non-free who want to unrar files.
Once the free unrar matured enough, it can probably ultimately replace
unrar (again), but until that time, I really do believe the free unrar
should be named differently until that point is reached. I offer my
assistance to get this happening again because of what I've done to
unstable at the moment.
RMs, please review unrar-nonfree 1:3.5.2-0.1, restoring a new version of
the unrar that was in woody to sarge.
Approved.
I had rather hoped to see some feedback from the current unrar-nonfree
maintainer about this package name change, though. Chris, is this NMUed
change ok with you?
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Sorry about the delay. I spoke to Jeroen in irc when the NMU first happened
and I appreciate the changes. As I discussed with him, I had been
considering requesting a similar change but hadn't determined how to go
about doing it (I've also been extremely busy with personal issues).
Everything he proposed and that you've discussed in the bug/thread is fine
with me.
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Michelle Konzack
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 540
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:40 am Post subject:
Re: unrar version confusion
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Am 2005-05-22 14:36:50, schrieb Jeroen van Wolffelaar:
| Quote: | My rationale to do this, is:
- woody shipped with a non-free unrar named 'unrar', and it worked
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OK.
| Quote: | - the free version is not functionally equivalent yet, of the .rar files
in the wild, I couldn't actually find a single one that was
unpackeable with the free unrar.
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Me too :-)
| Quote: | - So, it's too late now to have sarge ship with a free alternative,
because development of that one simply hasn't reached a functionally
(nearly-?) equivalent version. For etch, let's see, but for sarge,
let's just maintain the situation as it was in woody: a non-free
'unrar' for people not objecting to non-free who want to unrar files.
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Why not ship SARGE with unrar-nonfree and provide a
virtualpackage "unrar" which point to the renamed one ?
| Quote: | Once the free unrar matured enough, it can probably ultimately replace
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Maybe in ETCH.
| Quote: | unrar (again), but until that time, I really do believe the free unrar
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SARGE $USER are using now "unrar-nonfree" and in
ETCH we can remove the virtual-package "unrar".
Greetings
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Daniel Baumann
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Wouter Verhelst
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 4:20 am Post subject:
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On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 01:34:34PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
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| Quote: | Why not ship SARGE with unrar-nonfree and provide a
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Maybe in ETCH.
[...]
SARGE $USER are using now "unrar-nonfree" and in
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ETCH we can remove the virtual-package "unrar".
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It's Sarge, and Etch. Please don't yell at our releases.
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