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TonyK
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 4
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 Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:05 am Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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Michael Soibelman wrote:
| Quote: | Tony wrote:
Hi,
Downloaded Suse 10.1 dvd iso from
ftp://ftp.linux.nssl.noaa.gov/opensuse/.. It appeared to download normally
but after it completed downloading the dvd iso, the dowonload monitor
continued to show activity but with negative numbers..
Window shows:
"SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-DVD-i386.iso
Pause -847xxxx KB of 2097.2 MB at 33.6KB/sec; 0-25:0-36:0-43 remain"
The -847xxxx ic decrementing and the numbers after ; is incrementing..
Does any know wa\hat is happenning? Any info is appreciated.
Many thank in advance..
Tont Kobatake
Just a guess but the download monitor 'estimates' the total time at the
beginning of the download. Of course, the internet is not steady. Just
click on knemo and open the traffic plotter to see that. So, when the
total time surpasses the estimated time you will get negative numbers.
On the other hand...maybe they decided you shouldn't have the dvd and
they're taking it back ??? LOL 
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The dvd is in the directory I downloaded it into so they did allow me to
have it..  I sense that you have this version installed and hope
you can share your thoughts on how you like it as a workstation...
Currently using Mandrake 2005 then installed mandriva 2006 but seem to
like the previous version better so thought would give Suse a try..
many thanks for your response..
Tony |
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Vance Howard
*nix forums addict
Joined: 18 May 2005
Posts: 72
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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Walter Mautner wrote:
| Quote: | Tony wrote:
Hi,
Downloaded Suse 10.1 dvd iso from
ftp://ftp.linux.nssl.noaa.gov/opensuse/.. It appeared to download normally
but after it completed downloading the dvd iso, the dowonload monitor
continued to show activity but with negative numbers..
You are trying to download a >2G image to a FAT32 partition.
You waste your bandwidth.
He didn't mention the version of windows he was using, or what type of |
partition it was. If he is using WindowsXP, it is most likely ntfs. Ntfs
can handle 4gb file sizes. |
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Robert
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Mar 2005
Posts: 224
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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"Vance Howard" <itsme@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:mb8sg.110674$mF2.76794@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| Quote: | Walter Mautner wrote:
Tony wrote:
Hi,
Downloaded Suse 10.1 dvd iso from
ftp://ftp.linux.nssl.noaa.gov/opensuse/.. It appeared to download
normally
but after it completed downloading the dvd iso, the dowonload monitor
continued to show activity but with negative numbers..
You are trying to download a >2G image to a FAT32 partition.
You waste your bandwidth.
He didn't mention the version of windows he was using, or what type of
partition it was. If he is using WindowsXP, it is most likely ntfs. Ntfs
can handle 4gb file sizes.
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What's this nonsense? A 4GB on fat32 partition is possible, however 4.1GB
being the limit. NTFS has no file-size limit. |
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Robert
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Mar 2005
Posts: 224
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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"Robert" <robert_NOSPAM@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:yBcsg.21787$ST2.19111@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
| Quote: | being the limit. NTFS has no file-size limit.
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....one that matters! |
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VWWall
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 34
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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Robert wrote:
| Quote: | "Vance Howard" <itsme@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:mb8sg.110674$mF2.76794@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Walter Mautner wrote:
Tony wrote:
Hi,
Downloaded Suse 10.1 dvd iso from
ftp://ftp.linux.nssl.noaa.gov/opensuse/.. It appeared to download
normally
but after it completed downloading the dvd iso, the dowonload monitor
continued to show activity but with negative numbers..
You are trying to download a >2G image to a FAT32 partition.
You waste your bandwidth.
He didn't mention the version of windows he was using, or what type of
partition it was. If he is using WindowsXP, it is most likely ntfs. Ntfs
can handle 4gb file sizes.
What's this nonsense? A 4GB on fat32 partition is possible, however 4.1GB
being the limit. NTFS has no file-size limit.
To be precise, the largest possible FAT32 file is 4GB minus 2 bytes. |
The count of data clusters must be between 65526 and 268,435,456. Note
the latter number is 2^28, since FAT32 actually uses only 28 bits.
Using WindowsXP, the largest FAT32 partition you can set up is 32GB.
This is an artificial limitation, imposed by MSFT to promote NTFS.
A BIOS limited to 28 bits will limit drive size to 128GB, regardless of
the file system used.
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Virg Wall, PE |
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 723
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:40 am Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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In article <Ekesg.4079$Zf.3827@trnddc04>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | To be precise, the largest possible FAT32 file is 4GB minus 2 bytes.
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To be precise, do you mean 4GB or 4GiB? |
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VWWall
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 34
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
| Quote: | In article <Ekesg.4079$Zf.3827@trnddc04>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
To be precise, the largest possible FAT32 file is 4GB minus 2 bytes.
To be precise, do you mean 4GB or 4GiB?
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Read the rest of my reply.
Does 2^28 look like decimal? Only the drive makers use 1K = 1000!
For some reason, GiB never caught on!
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Virg Wall, PE |
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 723
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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In article <lWvsg.5577$F8.2890@trnddc02>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In article <Ekesg.4079$Zf.3827@trnddc04>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
To be precise, the largest possible FAT32 file is 4GB minus 2 bytes.
To be precise, do you mean 4GB or 4GiB?
Read the rest of my reply.
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You didn't seem to understand the difference.
| Quote: | Does 2^28 look like decimal? Only the drive makers use 1K = 1000!
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As do scientists. Who invented the notation, after all.
| Quote: | For some reason, GiB never caught on!
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Yes it has. It's frequently to be found all over the Linux docs.
For more info, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix>. |
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lordy
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 15
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:12 am Post subject:
Re: wine errors
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On 2006-07-11, Ray Turner <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:48:02 -0500, Gireesh K. Bhat wrote:
What app was it? Did you check to see if it should work well with wine at
www.winehq.org?
I'm sure it's completely unknown to the winehq folks.
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Doesnt mean you cant provide a name. Someone else might have the same
app running under wine, but they cant tell you whether or not you're
flogging a dead horse, without the added info..
| Quote: | I just did not know
if the error code would provide a work around to get it up and running....
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What version of wine? You can try the 0.9.16 build on your mystery app.
Not sure which distro you're using either so you can find it in the
usual places!
Lordy |
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VWWall
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 34
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
| Quote: | In article <lWvsg.5577$F8.2890@trnddc02>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In article <Ekesg.4079$Zf.3827@trnddc04>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
To be precise, the largest possible FAT32 file is 4GB minus 2 bytes.
To be precise, do you mean 4GB or 4GiB?
Read the rest of my reply.
You didn't seem to understand the difference.
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How did you get that impression? The "4GB minus 2 bytes" came from a
Microsoft document. Maybe they don't understand the difference.
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Does 2^28 look like decimal? Only the drive makers use 1K = 1000!
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Some are getting sued for using a non-computer convention! Still
many file lengths are given in decimal bytes for checking. Only the
lawyers will win! 
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As do scientists. Who invented the notation, after all.
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I even still have a deci-trig slide rule!
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For some reason, GiB never caught on!
Yes it has. It's frequently to be found all over the Linux docs.
For more info, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix>.
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NIST tried as early as 1998, but most computers report as in the first
table in the above. Where do you see "GiB" on a computer screen, except
in an article about it?
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
If we were all born with four fingers and toes, we'd probably be having
a discussion about octal notation. ;-)
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 723
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:38 am Post subject:
Re: firefox download monitor showing decreasing negative file size and downlod speed
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In article <PeQsg.9759$Ep.9545@trnddc08>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In article <lWvsg.5577$F8.2890@trnddc02>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In article <Ekesg.4079$Zf.3827@trnddc04>,
VWWall <vwall@DEADearthlink.net> wrote:
To be precise, the largest possible FAT32 file is 4GB minus 2 bytes.
To be precise, do you mean 4GB or 4GiB?
Read the rest of my reply.
You didn't seem to understand the difference.
How did you get that impression? The "4GB minus 2 bytes" came from a
Microsoft document. Maybe they don't understand the difference. :-)
Does 2^28 look like decimal? Only the drive makers use 1K = 1000!
Some are getting sued for using a non-computer convention! Still
many file lengths are given in decimal bytes for checking. Only the
lawyers will win! :-(
As do scientists. Who invented the notation, after all.
I even still have a deci-trig slide rule!
For some reason, GiB never caught on!
Yes it has. It's frequently to be found all over the Linux docs.
For more info, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix>.
NIST tried as early as 1998, but most computers report as in the first
table in the above. Where do you see "GiB" on a computer screen, except
in an article about it?
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On my OpenSuSE 10.0 system, you will find kiB/kibibytes, MiB/mibibytes
and GiB/gibibytes in man pages such as:
growisofs(1)
mkelf(1)
mknbi(1) (and the rest of the mknbi package)
ps(1)
alloc_hugepages(2)
getrlimit(2)
md(4)
units(7)
mdadm(
mkfs.xfs(
mkswap(
smartctl(8)
In /usr/src/linux/Documentation:
vesafb.txt
ldm.txt
filesystems/ntfs.txt
networking/packet_mmap.txt
In /usr/share/doc/packages, have a look at:
netpbm/README
coreutils/NEWS
yast2-backup/backup_specification.html
Like I said, it's all over the Linux docs. |
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houghi
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 6233
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:40 am Post subject:
Re: 1SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-Addon-Biarch.iso345160 (001/921)
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["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.suse.]
jasajoh@\power-post.org (Yenc-Power-Post) wrote:
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=ybegin part=1 line=128 size=353443840 name=SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-Addon-Biarch.iso
=ypart begin=1 end=384000
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You a*****le fucking nutter. news:alt.os.linux.suse is NOT a binary
newsgroup. Abuse send to your provider.
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houghi Please do not toppost http://houghi.org
Let's not be too tough on our own ignorance. It's the thing that makes
America great. If America weren't incomparably ignorant, how could we
have tolerated the last eight years? -- Frank Zappa, in 1988 |
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