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James Knott
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Posts: 1233
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 Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Boot up speed
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Timo Pirinen wrote:
| Quote: | Gonzalo wrote:
Why wouldn't it be a good thing for Linux to boot up super fast?
Why, indeed? After all, faster booting for Linux is easy to accomplish -
well, easyish :)
Just parallelize the system services startup, instead of starting them
one after another as is usual. The procedure is detailed in:
URL:http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html
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FWIW, I find that while the Windows desktop appears sooner, it still takes a
while, before the system is usable. In Linux, I can start doing stuff,
almost as soon as the desktop appears, without having to wait for that hour
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mjt
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 09 Mar 2005
Posts: 961
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: it's GPL...do some research... Well I did !
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Moe Trin wrote:
| Quote: | Suggestion - do you have a mechanism to use a different editor in the
news reader?
Suggestion - WHILE EDITING, can you save a copy (example - in vi, :w
another.file.name) then abort the edit, and examine that file.
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.... i use the internal knode editor. here's what i've done in the past:
* hexdump the characters right out of the editor window
* hexdump the raw on-disk file which contains the post
that just got sent out over the wire
* hexdumped the post as read back from the NNTP server
in all three instances, everything showed fine - ie, no
chars above 7f. where i DID see those chars were embedded
in the text of the post i am replying to (and not in all
instances, only from certain folks).
true == i have recently switched back to 8859, because i
looked back on posts from last year where no one was
complaining and i see the setting as 8859. just prior to
going to 8859, i had utf8 set (for a few days), but this
was a mistake - i meant to select 8859 (utf8 is in a
drop down, just above 8859-1). prior to that, i had
us-ascii set to alleviate any issues my end, but knode
complains if you try to send a reply with non-us-ascii
chars in the post - you HAVE to switch to some other
char set and that got to be a PITA. what this implies
is that the chars in the post i am replying to already
contain the "above 7f" chars.
actually, all this mess started when someone posted a
request and someone (i forget now, either Mark or Kevin)
posted a reply and the original OP said they were getting
errors at the command line - they obviously CNP the
[posted] command to their command line and were getting
errors returned by BASH. so, in a long-shot chance, i
copied the command out of the post and pasted it to a
BASH window and got the error, so i hexdumped it and saw
the "over 7f chars" and i responded to (Mark/Kevin)
identifying this fact.
so, now we're at this point where everyone is hexdumping
everyone else's posts  )
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John Fabiani
*nix forums addict
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 93
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Gnomad2 make error
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Wayne wrote:
| Quote: | I'm trying to compile gnomad2 and I can't get past make. I'm running the
64-bit version of SuSE 9.2. Compile is fine, but I get the following
error doing make:
then mv -f ".deps/player.Tpo" ".deps/player.Po"; else rm -f
".deps/player.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
player.c: In function `get_eax_controls':
player.c:313: error: structure has no member named `scaleable'
player.c:324: error: structure has no member named `selectable'
player.c:325: error: structure has no member named `min_selectionvalue'
player.c:326: error: structure has no member named `max_selectionvalue'
player.c:330: error: structure has no member named
`current_selectionvalue' player.c:344: error: structure has no member
named `selectable' player.c:349: error: structure has no member named
`max_selectionvalue' player.c:349: error: structure has no member named
`min_selectionvalue' player.c:350: error: structure has no member named
`selection_names' player.c:355: error: structure has no member named
`current_selectionvalue' player.c:363: error: structure has no member
named `scaleable' player.c:370: error: structure has no member named
`min_scalevalue' player.c:371: error: structure has no member named
`max_scalevalue' player.c:372: error: structure has no member named
`current_scalevalue' make[1]: *** [player.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/wayne/Downloads/gnomad2-2.6.2/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
I've installed the cvs version of libnjb which I believe is version 2.0
and have been following the instructions at
http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/?section=article
Any ideas why it's doing this?
Thanks,
Wayne
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Now that you have that compiled I wonder if you would mind helping me by
posting the binary. I too have X86_64 and have not been successful in
compiling.
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AT
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 119
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: SuSE pronounciation
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:47:02 +0000, Joe Shmoe wrote:
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Considering that it is a German company (well, at least founded there) and
is an acronym for "Gesellschaft für Software-und Systementwicklung" I'd
say it is pronounced something like zoo-za (the "a" pronounced as in
"about").
HTH
Andreas
Thanks. I thought that it might be an acronym, but Id not thought realy
about what it meant. What does the expanded acronym mean in English?
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Software and System Development is the relevant part.
HTH
Andreas |
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Martin Schöön
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 2122
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Suse 9.1 on VIA 700 MHz
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Esben Tærsker wrote:
| Quote: | Phillip Maloney wrote:
I've used a via c3 samuel 600 mhz chip in my home built for the last
three years with no lock up problems at all; started with 6.4 and moved
up the ladder now to 9.2 pro. they are basically compatible to intel
celeron chips. i think your problem must lie in another area.
I upgraded the BIOS and it has so far run 24 hours. I hope that did the
trick...:)
/Esben
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Some bios updates can 'handle' temperate readings/fixes believe it or not;
but i doubt your old motherboard (probably rather cheap itself, in
fairness) even has a temperature sensor; it could still be a fan problem,
if you wish to investigate that if anything happens again. |
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Preston Crawford
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 40
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: What's a good low-end video card that works well with Linux?
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On 2005-02-02, Preben Traerup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Why nVidia as opposed to ATI? Is it better for general business purposes?
Is it good quality, picture wise. I'm pretty picky in that regard. Nothing
to do with 3D, just picture quality.
The problem with newer graphic cards is the driver.
The only driver supporting any newer nVidia or ATI cards fully must be
downloaded from either nVidia or ATI - i.e full hardware 2D and/or 3D
support from the driver.
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Well, and that's why I tend to stick to the older cards. And hang onto
them with a death grip. Because I don't plan on doing any 3D and I just
want a good picture that works.
| Quote: | BTW onboard video isn't that bad, I'm running 9.2 on a i915G gpu. (@work)
I had to rebuild the kernel(drm) and setup xorg.conf myself, but it is
fast and 2D quality is very well. It even runs tuxracer in 3D on a
flatpanel (1280x1024/16bit@60Hz)
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I know it can work. But with my onboard video, at least, the quality isn't
as good. A little dark. A little more blurry. And this is just for doing
general office stuff.
For the record, I took the advice of someone else (either on this group or
another one) and reseated the card, being very very careful to make sure
it was seated right. I noticed that when I did this, it didn't quite hit
the back of the case flush. So maybe when I had it in the first time I
tried to hard to make it flush and accidentally partially unseated it. So
far it's running fine. I'll keep you guys posted. Weird.
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Preston Crawford
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 40
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: What's a good low-end video card that works well with Linux?
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On 2005-02-02, Preben Traerup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
| Quote: | This does not change my point, the driver is from the vendor and on the
vendors premise only whether downloaded by you or for you by YOU
If they make lousy drivers you have no alternative than switching vendor
or use the card without the posibility of pushing it to the limits.
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I agree with the above. That's been my trepediation when it comes to
choosing nVidia. I don't want to have to rely on anything other than
what's in my box. If I have to reinstall or God forbid I don't have a
network connection for a while, it's nice to know I can still use my
computer without NEEDING to rely on something that's not in the box I
purchased.
Preston |
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James Knott
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Posts: 1233
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: SuSE pronounciation
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Joe Shmoe wrote:
| Quote: | And now for what should be more than obvious. How does one pronounce
"SuSE"?
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Novell.  |
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ac
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 10 Mar 2005
Posts: 119
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: SuSE pronounciation
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Joe Shmoe wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
And now for what should be more than obvious. How does one pronounce
"SuSE"? A coworker refered to it as "Soo See". I tend to go with "Soose".
Good product no matter how you say it.
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I know it should really be similar to the German pronounciation, but I
know it affectionally as 'Suzy' (suzie) :-)
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David Carter
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 48
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: My installation source logic just went crazy???
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Tom F. wrote:
form DVD1 which used to work flawlessly. There is no option for
'installed and installable packages' except in YOU. I have another
machine with the same OS level and it still works. I just can't get the
installation source pointed to my DVD player without the no package
information. |
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Sven Burmeister
*nix forums addict
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 67
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Suse freeze
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Hi!
Ted wrote:
| Quote: | Ignore....After I posted the above the system froze...Would not see the
k.board at all so had to do a hard reset....
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Have you cjecked your RAM? Maybe using init 1 and then fsck.reiserfs to
check the partition the linux is on would at least rule out a faulty hdd
and/or filesystem?
Sven |
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David Wright
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 767
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: What's a good low-end video card that works well with Linux?
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Preben Traerup wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 12:28:43 +0100, David Wright wrote:
Preben Traerup wrote:
[quoted text muted]
Not sure about the ATi drivers now, but the nVidia drivers for all nVidia
cards, with 3D support and dual-head support, are available through the
YOU service, you don't need to visit the nVidia website or do anything
manually.
This does not change my point, the driver is from the vendor and on the
vendors premise only whether downloaded by you or for you by YOU
If they make lousy drivers you have no alternative than switching vendor
or use the card without the posibility of pushing it to the limits.
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I don't see the problem, my guess is that nVidia will write drivers which
work better with their hardware than a third party can. As to pushing the
card to the limits, that isn't important to me 99% of the time, I have old
Ti4600 and MX420 cards in my machines, which are more than enough for
normal use. I only download the nVidia drivers because I like some of the
3D screen savers, and I run a couple of machines as dual-head now and
then...
<snip>
Dave |
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David Wright
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 767
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: What's a good low-end video card that works well with Linux?
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Preston Crawford wrote:
| Quote: | On 2005-02-02, Preben Traerup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
This does not change my point, the driver is from the vendor and on the
vendors premise only whether downloaded by you or for you by YOU
If they make lousy drivers you have no alternative than switching vendor
or use the card without the posibility of pushing it to the limits.
I agree with the above. That's been my trepediation when it comes to
choosing nVidia. I don't want to have to rely on anything other than
what's in my box. If I have to reinstall or God forbid I don't have a
network connection for a while, it's nice to know I can still use my
computer without NEEDING to rely on something that's not in the box I
purchased.
Preston
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SuSE will work with nVidia out of the box, as long as you don't need 3D or
dual head support. I ran the default drivers on one of my machines for
months, because I didn't need 3D, and it only had one output...
Dave |
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David Carter
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 48
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: My installation source logic just went crazy???
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David Carter wrote
| Quote: | package, put my DVD1 disk in, and hit Accept. I got an error message
saying it couldn't find any package information. I hit the eject button
on the form and it ejected my CD player, not my DVD player.
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I did a lot of Goggling and found a handful of others that had the 'Can
not find package information' error, but no solutions.
I did get it fixed however. What I did was to delete all the
installation sources, reboot the machine and then added the installation
source of DVD. This time YAST did not complain about the missing package
information. Wow that only took 6 hours to fix, but I'm learning :-)
David Carter |
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Joe Shmoe
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 4
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Linksys router: can get to web, CANT get to router's admin utility?
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:52:43 -0800, borgus wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
I am running Suse 9.2, and have a netgear usb adapter set to handle wlan0
through dhcp, and I can browse the web fine, the thing is, I can't get to
router's admin page. I have tried setting wlan0 with and without a default
gateway of 192.168.1.1, but both ways I get destination host unreachable, and I
cannot ping the router.
I can ping other things and am at a loss. Can anyone offer some insight?
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I had a linksys router at one time (not wireless). Its IP address was
192.168.0.1. Could they be the same?
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