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Ralf Gauglitz *nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Dials Box vs. IRIX 6.5 flavour
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Hi thomas !
thanks for aswering - mind if I drop you a note ? I've seen you're
German. I'd love to get in touch with other users in .de again, most of
the "old" ones moved, retired whatever.
Ralf
Thomas Jahns wrote:
| Quote: | Ralf Gauglitz <rga@3d-artworx.de> writes:
I've been told that I should first load the Foundation CD, then (with
another instance of swmgr) I should load the Overlay CD's.
That doesn't work. The 2nd swmgr is always a "read-only-mode" one -
what makes perfect sense to me.
As you have already found out: running two instances of swmgr doesn't
work and it's not necessary either. You just open both CDs from one
instance of swmgr and inst/swmgr is supposed to work out what to do
once you select eoe.sw.optinput for installation. That's the great thing
about irix inst: in contrast to other package managers it doesn't allow
you to mess up your system, but tells you what would go wrong right
away.
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Ralf Gauglitz *nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject:
Re: Dials Box vs. IRIX 6.5 flavour
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Toni,
thanks a lot, that's exactly what I was looking for !
You know, I am used to IRIX fom 5.3 up to 6.2 then a long time of Peecee
work. Bah. When I got back my hands on an SGI (finally) I found that 6.5
changed way more complex as I dreamed about ! Maybe I have seen these
pages before, I tried to solve my problem with so much searching,
sticking my nose in this book in that book... until I've got lost
completely. So I decided to write again, because the tips I got
personally were plain nonsense. (NO, Alan, NOT yours !)
So everybody of you nice guys showed me a step back in real life
I will focus on that pages you suggested, I'm sure this will do the
trick. I always look for a mistake, homemade. I guess it's the same
here, some stupid little mistake I made.
Thanks everybody - I really apprechiate it !
Cheers
Ralf
Toni Grass wrote:
| Quote: | Ralf Gauglitz wrote:
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I buyed a used Octane2 with the 6.5.4 CD's. There is a booklet, that's
true, but only the very first steps to setup a system from scratch are
described. Nothing more. Maybe a part is missing, I don't know. It looks
complete. If there would be something helpful I would ask dumb questions
here, huh ? It's not funny for me to try try try... so I considered to
ask again. You should know how long I am twiddling around with this
crap. Yes the box is working, yes the cabling is ok - everything
hardware'ish is double checked.
You know <http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/init.cgi
resp. < http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/init.cgi?coll=0650
Here you find every documentation you need to understand IRIX 6.5 and
Octane.
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Toni Grass *nix forums addict
Joined: 03 May 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:43 pm Post subject:
Re: Dials Box vs. IRIX 6.5 flavour
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Ralf Gauglitz wrote:
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| Quote: | I buyed a used Octane2 with the 6.5.4 CD's. There is a booklet, that's
true, but only the very first steps to setup a system from scratch are
described. Nothing more. Maybe a part is missing, I don't know. It looks
complete. If there would be something helpful I would ask dumb questions
here, huh ? It's not funny for me to try try try... so I considered to
ask again. You should know how long I am twiddling around with this
crap. Yes the box is working, yes the cabling is ok - everything
hardware'ish is double checked.
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You know <http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/init.cgi>
resp. < http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/init.cgi?coll=0650>
Here you find every documentation you need to understand IRIX 6.5 and
Octane.
Toni
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Ralf Gauglitz *nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:
Re: Dials Box vs. IRIX 6.5 flavour
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Hi !
Thanks for anwering - you were that guy who told me about that eoe.sw.
right ?
Atro Tossavainen wrote:
| Quote: | Ralf Gauglitz <rga@3d-artworx.de> writes:
swmgr tells me that this version of the lib is
incompatible with the IRIX version I have installed.
You have to open the overlays for the release you are using first,
then open the foundation CDs in the _same_ swmgr.
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Well I tried when I red these hints. Doesn't work either. I really don't
know what the heck I'm doing wrong. Swmgr opens all the stuff I want to
install as well as it cries for the overlays. Some 5 conflicts stay,
regarding some man page installing. I told the system to leave them
alone. After 3-4 minutes it's done - so swmgr says. Cold reboot. Nothing
changed.
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I'd greatly apprechiate any hint, tip, whatever !
It's all laid out in the booklet that comes with every IRIX 6.5 CD set.
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I buyed a used Octane2 with the 6.5.4 CD's. There is a booklet, that's
true, but only the very first steps to setup a system from scratch are
described. Nothing more. Maybe a part is missing, I don't know. It looks
complete. If there would be something helpful I would ask dumb questions
here, huh ? It's not funny for me to try try try... so I considered to
ask again. You should know how long I am twiddling around with this
crap. Yes the box is working, yes the cabling is ok - everything
hardware'ish is double checked. |
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Atro Tossavainen *nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Dials Box vs. IRIX 6.5 flavour
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Ralf Gauglitz <rga@3d-artworx.de> writes:
| Quote: | swmgr tells me that this version of the lib is
incompatible with the IRIX version I have installed.
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You have to open the overlays for the release you are using first,
then open the foundation CDs in the _same_ swmgr.
| Quote: | I'd greatly apprechiate any hint, tip, whatever !
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It's all laid out in the booklet that comes with every IRIX 6.5 CD set.
--
Atro Tossavainen (Mr.) / The Institute of Biotechnology at
Systems Analyst, Techno-Amish & / the University of Helsinki, Finland,
+358-9-19158939 UNIX Dinosaur / employs me, but my opinions are my own.
< URL : http : / / www . helsinki . fi / %7E atossava / > NO FILE ATTACHMENTS |
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Walther Mathieu *nix forums addict
Joined: 05 Jun 2005
Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Dials Box vs. IRIX 6.5 flavour
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Ralf Gauglitz wrote:
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I have to install
eoe.sw.optinput
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I've been told that I should first load the Foundation CD, then
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(with another instance of swmgr) <-- pure nonsense!
| Quote: | I should load the Overlay CD's.
That doesn't work. The 2nd swmgr is always a "read-only-mode" one - what
makes perfect sense to me.
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Youre right - maybe you got the hint about swmgr all wrong.
In swmgr, choose eoe.sw.optinput, custom installation -> conflicts.
In that _same_ swmgr (of course!) solve all conflict by loading the
recommended products as additional distributions until you get
no conflicts any more. If youīre lost - go load all CDīs you have,
but donīt let it select products for you unless you have a huge disk.
Solving inst conflicts may take a while and be tricky somehow,
but is well worth the work, esp. when it comes to freeware.sgi products
or third party stuff from antarctica (thatīs where the penguins live). |
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Thomas Jahns *nix forums beginner
Joined: 20 Apr 2005
Posts: 44
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Dials Box vs. IRIX 6.5 flavour
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Ralf Gauglitz <rga@3d-artworx.de> writes:
| Quote: | I've been told that I should first load the Foundation CD, then (with
another instance of swmgr) I should load the Overlay CD's.
That doesn't work. The 2nd swmgr is always a "read-only-mode" one -
what makes perfect sense to me.
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As you have already found out: running two instances of swmgr doesn't
work and it's not necessary either. You just open both CDs from one
instance of swmgr and inst/swmgr is supposed to work out what to do
once you select eoe.sw.optinput for installation. That's the great thing
about irix inst: in contrast to other package managers it doesn't allow
you to mess up your system, but tells you what would go wrong right
away.
Thomas Jahns
--
"Computers are good at following instructions,
but not at reading your mind."
D. E. Knuth, The TeXbook, Addison-Wesley 1984, 1986, 1996, p. 9 |
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Ralf Gauglitz *nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject:
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Hi guys !
Maybe someone of you could help me with this.
I work with an 425 Mhz./V6, nothing special.
I'd like to connect my Dials box I used with my Crimson and the
Indigo(s)ē. Some guy from this group told me I have to install
eoe.sw.optinput
because the Dials and/or Dials & Buttons drivers aren't installed by
default no longer.
So I was happy to find that package on the Foundation #1 CD. But:
swmgr tells me that this version of the lib is
incompatible with the IRIX version I have installed.
the lib is a 6.5.4 distribution
my *installed* IRIX is
IRIX64 6.5 07080050 IP30
I've been told that I should first load the Foundation CD, then (with
another instance of swmgr) I should load the Overlay CD's.
That doesn't work. The 2nd swmgr is always a "read-only-mode" one - what
makes perfect sense to me.
Could anybody anybody help me with that - or simply point me in the
right direction. I already browsed the SGI Sites, there is no matching
driver for my version. Is it's even possible to 'downgrade' and if so -
how ? Just for the driver(s) ! What exactly I have to do ? My work (CAD,
3D worx) depends on that dials, they save a looot of time.
I'd greatly apprechiate any hint, tip, whatever !
And, btw, I'd like to install the whole MIDI and software synthesizer
stuff as well. Same problem as above. I buyed the Octane because of it's
excellent sound sub systems, ADAT etc. pp.. Ok, there are a few apps,
starting at Audiopanel and DAP and up - but I need the MIDI and Software
Synth stuff as well. But how to ....?
TIA
Cheers
Ralf
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ARTWORX STUDIOS
Germany/Ireland
www.3d-artworx.de
www.3d-artworx.co.ok
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