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christine
*nix forums addict
Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Posts: 54
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 Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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Jim wrote:
| Quote: | Jon Martin Solaas wrote:
DigitalHighway wrote:
Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start. But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks
Jordan
I have a Dell Inspiron 5150 running Fedora Core 4. This is the
"Community" version of RedHat. Fedora (or RH) doesn't come with a lot of
multimedia support, ie. no mp3 or dvd decoders (for legal reasons).
Luckily the livna (rpm.livna.org) repository has all the additional
packages you need. RedHat has turned into an Ģenterpriseģ distro these
days. It is very stable and you pay to get license and support. RedHat
also has a long life-cycle, so if you want to always have the latest and
greatest, you'd better coose something else. Fedora is pretty much up to
date. Because the building blocks of RedHat is GPL they have to release
the source of their distro, and this is used by others to build distros
like White Box, Centos and others, which in effect is RedHat without
logos, trademarks, commercial support and licence fee.
For a laptop wifi-support is also likely to be of importance. With my
broadcom card I have to use ndiswrapper (available from livna).
Ndiswrapper is a way to facilitate native windows drivers under linux.
So, all in all, FC4 + Livna is pretty ok, but you need to manually set
up a few things. Not difficult though ...
Many people recommend the Debian based Ubuntu distro, which supposedly
has good wifi support. Mandriva is also known to have exellent hardware
support. Suse I haven't tried.
When it comes to partitioning, the normal procedure is to set up
partitions during installation using tools built into the setup program.
Ofcourse you can also use PM beforehand to prepare the partitions.
Inspiron 4100 here running Knoppix/Debian. All's fine except the usual
dicky wifi via Intel miniPCI scavenged from a dead Fujitsu Centrino.
Everything else configures just dandy.
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hi!
it's a good idea to try out your hardware with some live-in distro. i have
tried knoppix and kanotix and both runs 100% on my laptop acer 8006. both
will find all my hardware. i have installed suse10 on one of my tabletops
and kanotix on another. suse10 runs on my laptop (at the moment).
wlan, bluetooth, dvd modem ethernet everything runs fine:-)
cheers,
christine |
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Jim
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 609
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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Jim wrote:
| Quote: | christine wrote:
Jim wrote:
Jon Martin Solaas wrote:
DigitalHighway wrote:
Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake)
is a
good place to start. But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks
Jordan
I have a Dell Inspiron 5150 running Fedora Core 4. This is the
"Community" version of RedHat. Fedora (or RH) doesn't come with a
lot of
multimedia support, ie. no mp3 or dvd decoders (for legal reasons).
Luckily the livna (rpm.livna.org) repository has all the additional
packages you need. RedHat has turned into an Ģenterpriseģ distro these
days. It is very stable and you pay to get license and support. RedHat
also has a long life-cycle, so if you want to always have the latest
and
greatest, you'd better coose something else. Fedora is pretty much
up to
date. Because the building blocks of RedHat is GPL they have to release
the source of their distro, and this is used by others to build distros
like White Box, Centos and others, which in effect is RedHat without
logos, trademarks, commercial support and licence fee.
For a laptop wifi-support is also likely to be of importance. With my
broadcom card I have to use ndiswrapper (available from livna).
Ndiswrapper is a way to facilitate native windows drivers under linux.
So, all in all, FC4 + Livna is pretty ok, but you need to manually set
up a few things. Not difficult though ...
Many people recommend the Debian based Ubuntu distro, which supposedly
has good wifi support. Mandriva is also known to have exellent hardware
support. Suse I haven't tried.
When it comes to partitioning, the normal procedure is to set up
partitions during installation using tools built into the setup
program.
Ofcourse you can also use PM beforehand to prepare the partitions.
Inspiron 4100 here running Knoppix/Debian. All's fine except the usual
dicky wifi via Intel miniPCI scavenged from a dead Fujitsu Centrino.
Everything else configures just dandy.
hi!
it's a good idea to try out your hardware with some live-in distro. i
have
tried knoppix and kanotix and both runs 100% on my laptop acer 8006. both
will find all my hardware. i have installed suse10 on one of my tabletops
and kanotix on another. suse10 runs on my laptop (at the moment).
wlan, bluetooth, dvd modem ethernet everything runs fine:-)
cheers,
christine
I've noticed that SuSE seems very well suited to laptops, particularly
the wifi side of things. Looking into reinstalling this one with 9.3 at
some point, and that'll be the last I see of Wintendo as a main platform
on any of my kit.
addendum: Knoppix has a QEMU edition out, v3.6b, that runs in a window. |
You get about 50% of the speed, but there again you don't even need to
reboot to use it. It also runs standalone as a live CD. |
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Jim
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 609
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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christine wrote:
| Quote: | Jim wrote:
Jon Martin Solaas wrote:
DigitalHighway wrote:
Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start. But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks
Jordan
I have a Dell Inspiron 5150 running Fedora Core 4. This is the
"Community" version of RedHat. Fedora (or RH) doesn't come with a lot of
multimedia support, ie. no mp3 or dvd decoders (for legal reasons).
Luckily the livna (rpm.livna.org) repository has all the additional
packages you need. RedHat has turned into an Ģenterpriseģ distro these
days. It is very stable and you pay to get license and support. RedHat
also has a long life-cycle, so if you want to always have the latest and
greatest, you'd better coose something else. Fedora is pretty much up to
date. Because the building blocks of RedHat is GPL they have to release
the source of their distro, and this is used by others to build distros
like White Box, Centos and others, which in effect is RedHat without
logos, trademarks, commercial support and licence fee.
For a laptop wifi-support is also likely to be of importance. With my
broadcom card I have to use ndiswrapper (available from livna).
Ndiswrapper is a way to facilitate native windows drivers under linux.
So, all in all, FC4 + Livna is pretty ok, but you need to manually set
up a few things. Not difficult though ...
Many people recommend the Debian based Ubuntu distro, which supposedly
has good wifi support. Mandriva is also known to have exellent hardware
support. Suse I haven't tried.
When it comes to partitioning, the normal procedure is to set up
partitions during installation using tools built into the setup program.
Ofcourse you can also use PM beforehand to prepare the partitions.
Inspiron 4100 here running Knoppix/Debian. All's fine except the usual
dicky wifi via Intel miniPCI scavenged from a dead Fujitsu Centrino.
Everything else configures just dandy.
hi!
it's a good idea to try out your hardware with some live-in distro. i have
tried knoppix and kanotix and both runs 100% on my laptop acer 8006. both
will find all my hardware. i have installed suse10 on one of my tabletops
and kanotix on another. suse10 runs on my laptop (at the moment).
wlan, bluetooth, dvd modem ethernet everything runs fine:-)
cheers,
christine
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I've noticed that SuSE seems very well suited to laptops, particularly
the wifi side of things. Looking into reinstalling this one with 9.3 at
some point, and that'll be the last I see of Wintendo as a main platform
on any of my kit. |
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Jim
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 609
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:40 am Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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Jon Martin Solaas wrote:
| Quote: | DigitalHighway wrote:
Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start. But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks
Jordan
I have a Dell Inspiron 5150 running Fedora Core 4. This is the
"Community" version of RedHat. Fedora (or RH) doesn't come with a lot of
multimedia support, ie. no mp3 or dvd decoders (for legal reasons).
Luckily the livna (rpm.livna.org) repository has all the additional
packages you need. RedHat has turned into an Ģenterpriseģ distro these
days. It is very stable and you pay to get license and support. RedHat
also has a long life-cycle, so if you want to always have the latest and
greatest, you'd better coose something else. Fedora is pretty much up to
date. Because the building blocks of RedHat is GPL they have to release
the source of their distro, and this is used by others to build distros
like White Box, Centos and others, which in effect is RedHat without
logos, trademarks, commercial support and licence fee.
For a laptop wifi-support is also likely to be of importance. With my
broadcom card I have to use ndiswrapper (available from livna).
Ndiswrapper is a way to facilitate native windows drivers under linux.
So, all in all, FC4 + Livna is pretty ok, but you need to manually set
up a few things. Not difficult though ...
Many people recommend the Debian based Ubuntu distro, which supposedly
has good wifi support. Mandriva is also known to have exellent hardware
support. Suse I haven't tried.
When it comes to partitioning, the normal procedure is to set up
partitions during installation using tools built into the setup program.
Ofcourse you can also use PM beforehand to prepare the partitions.
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Inspiron 4100 here running Knoppix/Debian. All's fine except the usual
dicky wifi via Intel miniPCI scavenged from a dead Fujitsu Centrino.
Everything else configures just dandy.
--
Cheers, http://www.dotware.co.uk
Jim http://www.dotware-entertainment.co.uk
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, It is by the beans of
Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking
becomes a warning, it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. |
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Jon Martin Solaas
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 03 Oct 2005
Posts: 12
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:31 am Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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DigitalHighway wrote:
| Quote: | Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start. But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks
Jordan
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I have a Dell Inspiron 5150 running Fedora Core 4. This is the
"Community" version of RedHat. Fedora (or RH) doesn't come with a lot of
multimedia support, ie. no mp3 or dvd decoders (for legal reasons).
Luckily the livna (rpm.livna.org) repository has all the additional
packages you need. RedHat has turned into an Ģenterpriseģ distro these
days. It is very stable and you pay to get license and support. RedHat
also has a long life-cycle, so if you want to always have the latest and
greatest, you'd better coose something else. Fedora is pretty much up to
date. Because the building blocks of RedHat is GPL they have to release
the source of their distro, and this is used by others to build distros
like White Box, Centos and others, which in effect is RedHat without
logos, trademarks, commercial support and licence fee.
For a laptop wifi-support is also likely to be of importance. With my
broadcom card I have to use ndiswrapper (available from livna).
Ndiswrapper is a way to facilitate native windows drivers under linux.
So, all in all, FC4 + Livna is pretty ok, but you need to manually set
up a few things. Not difficult though ...
Many people recommend the Debian based Ubuntu distro, which supposedly
has good wifi support. Mandriva is also known to have exellent hardware
support. Suse I haven't tried.
When it comes to partitioning, the normal procedure is to set up
partitions during installation using tools built into the setup program.
Ofcourse you can also use PM beforehand to prepare the partitions.
--
jon martin solaas |
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Michal Jaegermann
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 9
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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DigitalHighway <network2network@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start. But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced.
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No, not really and that regardless what you mean by "advanced". The
best one for a start is most likely that one which is used by some of
your friends around so they can show you if you will tangle yourself
somwhere.
If you want something Debian based and "easy" then Knoppix, Ubuntu or
Mepis should do. I hear from various sources the the last one will be
the easiest, whatever that may mean, to assorted Windows "refugees".
Michal |
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Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian,
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 06 Sep 2005
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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On 29-Sep-2005, I wrote:
| Quote: | It was better to allow the linux installation routine, rather than
Partition Wizard, to turn the used disk-space into a linux
partition.
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"unused disk-space" |
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General Schvantzkoph
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 425
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject:
Re: New laptop/Linux
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:11:57 -0400, Bill Marcum wrote:
| Quote: | On 28 Sep 2005 13:37:34 -0700, DigitalHighway
network2network@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start.
You don't need Partition Magic. Every Linux distribution includes its
own partitioning software.
Red Hat and Mandrake are two different distributions, and Mandrake has
changed its name to Mandriva. Red Hat charges a substantial fee for
their brand name and support, but there are free alternatives such as
Fedora, White Box or Centos.
But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks Jordan
I suggest you try distrowatch.com. Also, nowadays many distros offer
live CDs that you can try before you install. Knoppix and Ubuntu are
two popular Debian-based distributions.
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If the OP has PartitionMagic it's a better alternative for resizing the
NTFS partition then Mandriva is (the Fedora installer doesn't do partition
resizing). Both Mandriva and Fedora Core 4 are good choices for a Linux
distro. I prefer Fedora these days because it does a better job with
Athlon64 systems but the OP has a Dell which is Intel based so that's not
a concern.
As for doing the partitioning make sure that you create separate /, /home
and swap partitions. I always make two partitions for /, one for the
current distro and one reserved for a future upgrade. When you do a Linux
upgrade in the future you want to be able to do a clean install which
means that you need to keep your data on a separate partition, thus the
separate /home. It's also nice to be able to do an upgrade without blowing
away the current working OS, that's why you want to reserve a second equal
sized partition. Since you have a laptop you might not have the luxury of
reserving 8G for a reserved partition but do it if you can. |
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Bill Marcum
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 1264
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Re: New laptop/Linux
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On 28 Sep 2005 13:37:34 -0700, DigitalHighway
<network2network@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start.
You don't need Partition Magic. Every Linux distribution includes its |
own partitioning software.
Red Hat and Mandrake are two different distributions, and Mandrake has
changed its name to Mandriva. Red Hat charges a substantial fee for
their brand name and support, but there are free alternatives such as
Fedora, White Box or Centos.
| Quote: | But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks
Jordan
I suggest you try distrowatch.com. Also, nowadays many distros offer |
live CDs that you can try before you install. Knoppix and Ubuntu are
two popular Debian-based distributions.
--
Certainly there are things in life that money can't buy,
But it's very funny -- did you ever try buying them without money?
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Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian,
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 06 Sep 2005
Posts: 5
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Re: New laptop/Linux
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On 28-Sep-2005, "DigitalHighway" <network2network@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from.
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I turned an Inspiron 9300 into a multi-boot machine. (There's also that Dell
maintenace partition, y'know.)
I used Partition Wizard to reduce the size of the WinXP partition. Then I
installed Red Hat Enterprise WS.
It was better to allow the linux installation routine, rather than Partition
Wizard, to turn the used disk-space into a linux partition. I also use
grub, rather than System Commander, to manage boot choice. (The alternative
is to use both, which seems silly.)
Some issues:
To support the softmodem, you'll either need to get the free 14.4Kbps driver
from linuxant.com, or pop for the 52Kbps driver from them. kudzu and other
software have trouble if a PCMCIA modem is installed; I don't know how to
resolve this trouble (and the big meanies in this newsgroup won't tell me).
On my system, the installation finds the two USB ports on the side, but
doesn't recognize the four in the back.
I had to tweak a configuration file with a text editor, for 1920x1200 pel^2
display resolution.
WinXp will not be able to read from or write to the linux partition; someone
was working on a driver, but that project seems moribund. A driver is
available to allow linux to read from the WinXP (NTFS) partition; but it's
not been developed to the point that linux can write to the WinXP partition. |
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DigitalHighway
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Posts: 1
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject:
New laptop/Linux
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Hi. I have some questions about linux. I just bought a Dell Laptop
Model Inspiron 6000. I am using Windows XP pro. I am a beginner in
regards to my knowledge of Linux. I want a dual boot system and I am
confused with all the Linux versions to choose from. I plan to use
Parition Magic 8 to create the partions. I heard RedHat(mandrake) is a
good place to start. But, I hear Debian is a great version also but
more advanced. Any suggestions for installing, choosing the right
version or any help would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks
Jordan |
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