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David J Dachtera
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Guy Peleg: More wish list items Reply with quote

Galen wrote:
Quote:

David J Dachtera wrote:
If these aren't already in V8.2...

New keywords for F$GETSYI()

IJOBCNT
BJOBCNT
NJOBCNT

(counterparts to their ...LIM companions)


This reply is only a tangent since Dave is specifically asking for
...CNT keywords for F$GETSYI and said nothing at all about SYSGEN
parameters.

But since he alluded to "...LIM" values I just thought I'd post a
reminder that as of V8.2 the SYSGEN parameters BJOBLIM and NJOBLIM are
documented as obsolete. (Of course, the corresponding F$GETSYI()
keywords would still be valid.) I think they've actually _been_
obsolete for a good while.

I believe this has come up once before in c.o.v.

For the official documentation of this, follow this TinyURL link:

http://tinyurl.com/6rc3d

The full version of the link is:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82eft/6674/6674pro_005.html#obsolete

Biggest issue I had with BJOBLIM was that the Job Controller and Queue
Manager(s) weren't set up to do anything useful when BJOBLIM was
reached. The batch queues didn't pause, and batch jobs just "fell off"
the queues. Would have been very useful to have JBC+QMAN STOP/NEXT all
the batch queues before BJOBLIM was completely consumed, then
reSTART/QUEUE those queues when, say BJOBLIM - 2 or 3 was re-attained.

Ah, well...

"You can't have everything. Where would you put it?"
- Steven Wright

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David J Dachtera
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: Guy Peleg: More wish list items Reply with quote

Dave Froble wrote:
Quote:

Dave Froble wrote:
David J Dachtera wrote:

If these aren't already in V8.2...

New keywords for F$GETSYI()

IJOBCNT
BJOBCNT
NJOBCNT

(counterparts to their ...LIM companions)


If you get into HELP, after the list of item codes, you'll see:

You can also specify any of the system parameters listed in the
OpenVMS System Management Utilities Reference Manual.

So, it's been there at least since V7.2. I'm not sure what system
parameters are listed in the manual. Perhaps it means all the SYSGEN
parameters.

Dave

Seems I cannot read anymore. I didn't notice that David asked for
'CNT', not 'LIM'. Nevermind.

Indeed.

I thought it unusual that F$GETJPI() has ...LM and a corresponding
....CNT for various process quotas. Trouble is, some of the ...CNTs tell
how much is used, and some tell how much remains available to use.

F$GETSYI() lacks these pairs, however. MAXPROCESSCNT needs a
corresponding CURPROCESSCNT, for example, so a detached daemon can warn
about an impending issue without having to use F$CONTEXT() and F$PID()
to compile a "current" process count (stale by the time the loop
finishes counting).

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David J Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
http://www.djesys.com/

Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/

Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/

Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/

Coming soon:
Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page
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Dave Froble
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Guy Peleg: More wish list items Reply with quote

Dave Froble wrote:
Quote:
David J Dachtera wrote:

If these aren't already in V8.2...

New keywords for F$GETSYI()

IJOBCNT
BJOBCNT
NJOBCNT

(counterparts to their ...LIM companions)


If you get into HELP, after the list of item codes, you'll see:

You can also specify any of the system parameters listed in the
OpenVMS System Management Utilities Reference Manual.

So, it's been there at least since V7.2. I'm not sure what system
parameters are listed in the manual. Perhaps it means all the SYSGEN
parameters.

Dave

Seems I cannot read anymore. I didn't notice that David asked for
'CNT', not 'LIM'. Nevermind.
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Galen
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Posts: 49

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Guy Peleg: More wish list items Reply with quote

David J Dachtera wrote:
Quote:
If these aren't already in V8.2...

New keywords for F$GETSYI()

IJOBCNT
BJOBCNT
NJOBCNT

(counterparts to their ...LIM companions)


This reply is only a tangent since Dave is specifically asking for
....CNT keywords for F$GETSYI and said nothing at all about SYSGEN
parameters.

But since he alluded to "...LIM" values I just thought I'd post a
reminder that as of V8.2 the SYSGEN parameters BJOBLIM and NJOBLIM are
documented as obsolete. (Of course, the corresponding F$GETSYI()
keywords would still be valid.) I think they've actually _been_
obsolete for a good while.

I believe this has come up once before in c.o.v.

For the official documentation of this, follow this TinyURL link:

http://tinyurl.com/6rc3d

The full version of the link is:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82eft/6674/6674pro_005.html#obsolete
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Dave Froble
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Posts: 1172

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Guy Peleg: More wish list items Reply with quote

David J Dachtera wrote:
Quote:
If these aren't already in V8.2...

New keywords for F$GETSYI()

IJOBCNT
BJOBCNT
NJOBCNT

(counterparts to their ...LIM companions)


If you get into HELP, after the list of item codes, you'll see:

You can also specify any of the system parameters listed in the
OpenVMS System Management Utilities Reference Manual.

So, it's been there at least since V7.2. I'm not sure what system
parameters are listed in the manual. Perhaps it means all the SYSGEN
parameters.

Dave
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David J Dachtera
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Posts: 1067

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:41 am    Post subject: Guy Peleg: More wish list items Reply with quote

If these aren't already in V8.2...

New keywords for F$GETSYI()

IJOBCNT
BJOBCNT
NJOBCNT

(counterparts to their ...LIM companions)

--
David J Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
http://www.djesys.com/

Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/

Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/

Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/

Coming soon:
Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page
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