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JF Mezei
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 distribution Reply with quote

Dave Weatherall wrote:
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You'll all be happy to know that the box has a Java Compatible logo on it.
:)

-Jeff

Ok, I'll bite, what makes a logo Java compatible? Smile)

It means it has been sanctioned by Sun.

What was it during the Compaq era that had been shipped with either a
Sun logo or a picture of Sun equipment on the box ? (it was VMS stuff inside).
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Galen
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 distribution Reply with quote

If the logo were made of silicon with a Java processor etched into it,
would that make the logo Java compatible?

:-D
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Tom Linden
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 distribution Reply with quote

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:09:03 +0000 (UTC), <david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> wrote:

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In article <opsl9a2qmfzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com
writes:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:22:17 -0800, DeanW <dean.woodward@gmail.com
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:02:50 +0000 (UTC), Bradford J. Hamilton
Isn't the basic difference that passwds are transmitted unencrypted with
telnet? Aside from this, it would seem that breakins have the same
probability of success, independent of whether you use telnet or ssh


A SSH brute force password guesser brutessh2 was published in August 2004
which a lot of script kiddies seem to be using see

http://www.k-otik.com/exploits/08202004.brutessh2.c.php


But if the site only allows three login tries per hour, it might take

a long time.
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david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 distribution Reply with quote

In article <opsl9a2qmfzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:
Quote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:22:17 -0800, DeanW <dean.woodward@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:02:50 +0000 (UTC), Bradford J. Hamilton
Isn't the basic difference that passwds are transmitted unencrypted with
telnet? Aside from this, it would seem that breakins have the same
probability of success, independent of whether you use telnet or ssh


A SSH brute force password guesser brutessh2 was published in August 2004
which a lot of script kiddies seem to be using see

http://www.k-otik.com/exploits/08202004.brutessh2.c.php




David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
Middlesex University

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Bob Koehler
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 distribution Reply with quote

In article <opsl9a2qmfzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:

Quote:
Isn't the basic difference that passwds are transmitted unencrypted with
telnet? Aside from this, it would seem that breakins have the same
probability of success, independent of whether you use telnet or ssh

The basic difference is that everything is transmitted encrypted with
SSH. Passwords, of course, are a prime concern, but the data may
also be of interest.

The increase in attacks upon opening SSH is probably a social issue.
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Bob Koehler
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 distribution Reply with quote

In article <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-iYdPzQwuOZOm@dave2_os2.home.ours>, "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow> writes:
Quote:

Ok, I'll bite, what makes a logo Java compatible? Smile)

A trip to Starbucks?
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