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David Anderson
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

In article <skgh11t8nccklavro5ccb4f0aac7tf2tia@4ax.com>,
Bjorn Ljungdahl <cochrane99@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Frank Wille" <frank@phoenix.owl.de> wrote:

Bjorn Ljungdahl wrote:
[..Dillo..]
Thank you for your replies. I've downloaded it and tried to compile and
install it. Unfortunately not very successful. It seems I don't get the
libraries linked correctly. The compile works fairly well, I get some
warnings about the pthread but it goes through. After installation I get
fatal error, cannot map ... jpeg. I disable jpeg to se what happens and
I get fatal error, cannot map png etc.

Did you built dynamic shared objects or static libraries?
Do the jpg-/png-libraries work with other programs? I have built
jpeg amd zlib statically. Maybe this helps?

I think you are right, but I'm not sure if they are static since
I downloaded finished binaries for from http://sgistuff.g-lenerz.de/.
Is there anyway I can check the files? Maybe I should rebuild them
to be sure although I'm not so sure how to. Is it --enable-static=on
or something? I really need to read a book about compiling Smile

Here are a couple clues.
Assuming normal file naming :-)

A static library xxx would be named
libxxx.a
and
file libxxx.a
will say it is an ar archive.

A DSO (shared library, Dynamic Shared Object) would be named
libxxx.so
and
file libxxx.so
will say it is a 'dynamic lib'.

To determine what shared libraries an executable uses do
(say the executable is named 'a.out')
ldd a.out
That ldd command works on DSOs too.


Regards,
David B. Anderson davea at sgi dot com http://reality.sgiweb.org/davea
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Bjorn Ljungdahl
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

"Frank Wille" <frank@phoenix.owl.de> wrote:

Quote:
Bjorn Ljungdahl wrote:
[..Dillo..]
Thank you for your replies. I've downloaded it and tried to compile and
install it. Unfortunately not very successful. It seems I don't get the
libraries linked correctly. The compile works fairly well, I get some
warnings about the pthread but it goes through. After installation I get
fatal error, cannot map ... jpeg. I disable jpeg to se what happens and
I get fatal error, cannot map png etc.

Did you built dynamic shared objects or static libraries?
Do the jpg-/png-libraries work with other programs? I have built
jpeg amd zlib statically. Maybe this helps?

I think you are right, but I'm not sure if they are static since

I downloaded finished binaries for from http://sgistuff.g-lenerz.de/.
Is there anyway I can check the files? Maybe I should rebuild them
to be sure although I'm not so sure how to. Is it --enable-static=on
or something? I really need to read a book about compiling :-)

Quote:
I haven't found an OpenSSL for 5.3 either, but the configure just
disables that and continues.

SSL is not required for Dillo to work. In case you want it: just
download openssl-0.9.7e from http://www.openssl.org/.

I have downloaded lastest version and will try to implement it


Quote:
I'm not very good at compiling so I don't know what to try next. It's
pretty much configure, make, make install out of the box. If you have
any more hints that would be nice.

It should install out of the box, yes. But see my notes about
dns.c in the other posting.


Software used IRIX5.3XFS,

removed some stuff


Quote:
pth-1.4.1,

You should try a newer release. Nothing before pth-2.0.2.
(pth-2.0.1 doesn't work at all, BTW)

I'm working with pth-2.0.3 now to see if I can get further.


Quote:
Maybe another note, before everybody is disappointed: Dillo is
certainly not the solution to all your browser problems at the
moment. It's a nice project and I hope it will be a usable
browser in the future, but at the moment it is not. Without
Java Script and Frames you might have more problems as with
Netscape 4.08, and with my Dillo-version I can't even download
files...

But it's fast! Smile
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Atro Tossavainen
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

"Frank Wille" <frank@phoenix.owl.de> writes:

Quote:
Software used IRIX5.3XFS,

How do I get XFS for Irix5.3? Smile

It was a separate distribution.

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Frank Wille
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

Bjorn Ljungdahl wrote:


Quote:
[..Dillo..]
Thank you for your replies. I've downloaded it and tried to compile and
install it. Unfortunately not very successful. It seems I don't get the
libraries linked correctly. The compile works fairly well, I get some
warnings about the pthread but it goes through. After installation I get
fatal error, cannot map ... jpeg. I disable jpeg to se what happens and
I get fatal error, cannot map png etc.

Did you built dynamic shared objects or static libraries?
Do the jpg-/png-libraries work with other programs? I have built
jpeg amd zlib statically. Maybe this helps?


Quote:
I haven't found an OpenSSL for 5.3 either, but the configure just
disables that and continues.

SSL is not required for Dillo to work. In case you want it: just
download openssl-0.9.7e from http://www.openssl.org/.


Quote:
I'm not very good at compiling so I don't know what to try next. It's
pretty much configure, make, make install out of the box. If you have
any more hints that would be nice.

It should install out of the box, yes. But see my notes about
dns.c in the other posting.


Quote:
Software used IRIX5.3XFS,

How do I get XFS for Irix5.3? :)


Quote:
IDO5.3,

Same here.


Quote:
gcc 2.95.3,

Same here, using Irix-ld.


Quote:
gmake 3.79.1,

gmake 3.80. But 3.79 should do as well.


Quote:
glib-1.2.10, gtk+-1.2.10, jpeg-6b, libpng-1.2.5,

Same here.


Quote:
pth-1.4.1,

You should try a newer release. Nothing before pth-2.0.2.
(pth-2.0.1 doesn't work at all, BTW)


Maybe another note, before everybody is disappointed: Dillo is
certainly not the solution to all your browser problems at the
moment. It's a nice project and I hope it will be a usable
browser in the future, but at the moment it is not. Without
Java Script and Frames you might have more problems as with
Netscape 4.08, and with my Dillo-version I can't even download
files...

But it's fast! :)


--
_ Frank Wille (frank@phoenix.owl.de)
_ // http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/
\X/ Phx @ #AmigaGer
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Toni Grass
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

Frank Wille wrote:
Quote:
Toni Grass wrote:

[dillo]
Quote:
Hm, I tried to compile it on Octane but got 'Unresolved text symbol
"pthread_cancel"'. Probably one of the few necessary libs is missing I
think. I'll check it later.

I have pth-2.0.2 installed for pthreads. Maybe build this
first before running configure?

I'll give it another try next days

Quote:
And don't forget to comment "#define G_DNS_THREADED" in dns.c.
Otherwise the system will hang because gethostbyname() is not
thread-safe. Neutral

THX for the hints

Toni
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Frank Wille
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

Toni Grass wrote:


Quote:
In comp.sys.sgi.admin Frank Wille wrote:
[....]
A fast, modern browser to recommend is Dillo (www.dillo.org). I like it
and I'm using it most of the time. Unfortunately it still lacks
frames-support and Java script.

Hm, I tried to compile it on Octane but got 'Unresolved text symbol
"pthread_cancel"'. Probably one of the few necessary libs is missing I
think. I'll check it later.

I have pth-2.0.2 installed for pthreads. Maybe build this
first before running configure?

And don't forget to comment "#define G_DNS_THREADED" in dns.c.
Otherwise the system will hang because gethostbyname() is not
thread-safe. :|


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_ // http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/
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Bjorn Ljungdahl
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at> wrote:

Quote:
In comp.sys.sgi.admin Frank Wille wrote:

[....]
A fast, modern browser to recommend is Dillo (www.dillo.org).
I like it and I'm using it most of the time. Unfortunately
it still lacks frames-support and Java script.

Hm, I tried to compile it on Octane but got 'Unresolved text symbol
"pthread_cancel"'. Probably one of the few necessary libs is missing I
think. I'll check it later.

Thank you for your replies. I've downloaded it and tried

to compile and install it. Unfortunately not very successful.
It seems I don't get the libraries linked correctly.
The compile works fairly well, I get some warnings about
the pthread but it goes through. After installation I get
fatal error, cannot map ... jpeg. I disable jpeg to se what
happens and I get fatal error, cannot map png etc.
I haven't found an OpenSSL for 5.3 either, but the
configure just disables that and continues.

I'm not very good at compiling so I don't know what to
try next. It's pretty much configure, make, make install
out of the box. If you have any more hints that would
be nice.

Software used IRIX5.3XFS, IDO5.3, gcc 2.95.3,
gmake 3.79.1, glib-1.2.10, gtk+-1.2.10, jpeg-6b,
libpng-1.2.5, pth-1.4.1, wget-1.9
Libraries gotten from precompiled 5.3 freeware and
placed in /usr/local/lib (which is added to path).

/Bjorn
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Toni Grass
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

In comp.sys.sgi.admin Frank Wille wrote:

[....]
Quote:
A fast, modern browser to recommend is Dillo (www.dillo.org).
I like it and I'm using it most of the time. Unfortunately
it still lacks frames-support and Java script.

Hm, I tried to compile it on Octane but got 'Unresolved text symbol
"pthread_cancel"'. Probably one of the few necessary libs is missing I
think. I'll check it later.

Toni
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Frank Wille
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

Bjorn Ljungdahl wrote:


Quote:
Hello, I wonder if there is a fairly recent internet browser that runs
in IRIX5.3. The machine in question is an Indigo R3000 so I guess
Mozilla is not the answer. On Netscapes ftp site I have found
Communicator 4.08 for IRIX5.3 but I wonder if there's somethnig newer.

No there isn't something newer. I'm using the same version on
my Irix5.3 Indy.


Quote:
If some compilation is required I might manage, but binaries are
probably better.

I tried to compiler Mozilla, which succeeded after some work,
but the resulting binary didn't do anything at all.

A fast, modern browser to recommend is Dillo (www.dillo.org).
I like it and I'm using it most of the time. Unfortunately
it still lacks frames-support and Java script.


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_ // http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/
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Garglemonster
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

On 2005.02.12 04:01:03, Bjorn Ljungdahl wrote:

Quote:
Hello,
I wonder if there is a fairly recent internet browser that runs
in IRIX5.3. The machine in question is an Indigo R3000 so
I guess Mozilla is not the answer.
On Netscapes ftp site I have found Communicator 4.08 for
IRIX5.3 but I wonder if there's somethnig newer.
(Communicator 4.7 seem to be the latest for IRIX6.2)

If some compilation is required I might manage, but
binaries are probably better.

Perhaps lynx or one of the lynx-like text browsers will work.
Somehow I think that's not what you're looking for.


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Thomas Jahns
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

Bjorn Ljungdahl <bjorn.ljungdahl@telia.nospam.com> writes:
Quote:
I wonder if there is a fairly recent internet browser that runs
in IRIX5.3. The machine in question is an Indigo R3000 so
I guess Mozilla is not the answer.

Have you tried dillo? It's supposed to be relatively fast but I did not
find the time to build it for my R3000.

Thomas Jahns
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but not at reading your mind."
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Bjorn Ljungdahl
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Need recommendation of fairly new internet browser for IRIX5.3 Reply with quote

Hello,
I wonder if there is a fairly recent internet browser that runs
in IRIX5.3. The machine in question is an Indigo R3000 so
I guess Mozilla is not the answer.
On Netscapes ftp site I have found Communicator 4.08 for
IRIX5.3 but I wonder if there's somethnig newer.
(Communicator 4.7 seem to be the latest for IRIX6.2)

If some compilation is required I might manage, but
binaries are probably better.

regards
Bjorn
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