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Frank van Bortel
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie With Forms & IAS - help please. Reply with quote
amerar@iwc.net wrote:
Quote:
Hi Frank,

Thanks for the reply.

If users are to share forms, does that "require" me to be running a web
server of some sort? Or, are the forms stored somehow in the database
and the client machine just gets the form?


All possible. Not required.
1) Yes you can run forms on the web, thus "sharing" your forms.
2) Yes, you can run (up to, and including Forms V6i) in client/server
mode,
2a) storing the forms definitions on a central file server, or
2b) use the database as a fileserver.

Quote:
Since I do not know anything about Forms or Developer, I'm unsure on
what is requried.

So am I

Quote:

My company wants to take a bunch of data from a legacy system, load the
data into Oracle tables, then develop forms to view that data.

Well - get sorted out for whom your company develops these forms.
Why use forms at all, and not Java, or plain PL/SQL through the
PL/SQL Web Gateway?

Quote:

With that said, do I need any server application installed at all? Why
install iAS, unless the users will be viewing the forms via the
intranet, right?

Yes - or your users want the latest version - which does no longer
support the Client/Server Model...

Quote:

I just need some good install and explain documentation.......

And get your wires straight. I still have no background

information about the targeted audience (your customers),
nor what versions you run, or plan to run


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie With Forms & IAS - help please. Reply with quote
amerar@iwc.net wrote in
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Quote:

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the reply.

If users are to share forms, does that "require" me to be running a web
server of some sort? Or, are the forms stored somehow in the database
and the client machine just gets the form?

Since I do not know anything about Forms or Developer, I'm unsure on
what is requried.

My company wants to take a bunch of data from a legacy system, load the
data into Oracle tables, then develop forms to view that data.

With that said, do I need any server application installed at all? Why
install iAS, unless the users will be viewing the forms via the
intranet, right?

I just need some good install and explain documentation.......

Thanks,

Arthur


Forms 6 is client/server; which means every client PC needs Forms 6 runtime
installed on every client PC. AFAIK, Forms 6 is no longer supported.

Assuming you can/do decide to deploy Forms 6, the actual Forms & Report
runtime files can reside on a shared network drive that can be accessed by
all the client PCs.
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DA Morgan
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie With Forms & IAS - help please. Reply with quote
amerar@iwc.net wrote:

Quote:
Hi All,

My company needs to install Oracle forms. I am a DBA, so I have no
experience with forms. I was hoping someone could answer come questions
for me.

We are running Oracle 8i on HPUX 64, so from what it looks like, I'm
looking at Forms 6i?

I downloaded some Client Install instructions for Forms. They seem
pretty straight forward.

However, since we will want to be sharing these forms and have everyone
in the comany use them, I assume I need to install some server
component. I have no clue where to look. I was told that I need to
install iAS? I have no clue on what that is.

There is a lot of documentation out there, but nothing seems to be what
I need. I just need the step-by-step installation and explanation to
get this up and running on the client side and the server side.

Any help would be appreciated.

Many Thanks,

Arthur

If client-server 6i is the version and you then have the option to use
an app server for web if you choose.

But you can also download and install 9i or 10g Forms which are web
based and will, if not require an app sever, at least require OC4J.

The fact that you have 8i is only relevant to your resume and the
fact that desupport has begun and thus your piece of mind.
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Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu
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amerar@iwc.net
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie With Forms & IAS - help please. Reply with quote
Hi Frank,

Thanks for the reply.

If users are to share forms, does that "require" me to be running a web
server of some sort? Or, are the forms stored somehow in the database
and the client machine just gets the form?

Since I do not know anything about Forms or Developer, I'm unsure on
what is requried.

My company wants to take a bunch of data from a legacy system, load the
data into Oracle tables, then develop forms to view that data.

With that said, do I need any server application installed at all? Why
install iAS, unless the users will be viewing the forms via the
intranet, right?

I just need some good install and explain documentation.......

Thanks,

Arthur
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Frank van Bortel
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Joined: 19 Apr 2005
Posts: 804

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie With Forms & IAS - help please. Reply with quote
amerar@iwc.net wrote:
Quote:
Hi All,

My company needs to install Oracle forms. I am a DBA, so I have no
experience with forms. I was hoping someone could answer come questions
for me.

We are running Oracle 8i on HPUX 64, so from what it looks like, I'm
looking at Forms 6i?

Not sure - I would say it's inconclusive.
All I am willing to *guess* is you're running "web based forms".
But that existed since Forms V4.5 (Developer 1.4W, for "web").

Quote:

I downloaded some Client Install instructions for Forms. They seem
pretty straight forward.

However, since we will want to be sharing these forms and have everyone
in the comany use them, I assume I need to install some server
component. I have no clue where to look. I was told that I need to
install iAS? I have no clue on what that is.

Oracle's internet Application Server.

Quote:

There is a lot of documentation out there, but nothing seems to be what
I need. I just need the step-by-step installation and explanation to
get this up and running on the client side and the server side.

Hmmm... client side, eh? Running Forms in client/server mode then?
If so, nothing is required on the server (apart from a file server,
perhaps Smile ), as long as the connectivity is there.


In short - get that straightened out: what version (like the RDBMS,
the more digits, the merrier), and in what mode (Web, or client/server)
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Frank van Bortel
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amerar@iwc.net
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Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Posts: 185

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Newbie With Forms & IAS - help please. Reply with quote
Hi All,

My company needs to install Oracle forms. I am a DBA, so I have no
experience with forms. I was hoping someone could answer come questions
for me.

We are running Oracle 8i on HPUX 64, so from what it looks like, I'm
looking at Forms 6i?

I downloaded some Client Install instructions for Forms. They seem
pretty straight forward.

However, since we will want to be sharing these forms and have everyone
in the comany use them, I assume I need to install some server
component. I have no clue where to look. I was told that I need to
install iAS? I have no clue on what that is.

There is a lot of documentation out there, but nothing seems to be what
I need. I just need the step-by-step installation and explanation to
get this up and running on the client side and the server side.

Any help would be appreciated.

Many Thanks,

Arthur
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