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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Me wrote:

Quote:
[shell]# rm .kde

Thanks for replying Michael, I understand this will remove .kde then what?
Will KDE automatically reinstate a "good" copy of .kde when it launches?
The reason I don't just try it is I went back to 3.3 until I have a
good idea I can get 3.4 up fully. Are you using 3.4?


.... you simply restart the system and when you login as
that particular user, then the kde startup routines
will recreate the .kde directory afresh for that user.

the other option is, instead of removing the .kde directory
for that user is to rename it, so you can copy any data you
have in that orig user directory:
[shell] mv .kde .origkde
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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Me wrote:

Quote:
[shell] mv .kde .origkde

Thanks, trying it now, will let you know in about 10 minutes how it went.


.... sorry, i made an assumption: be sure you are in the
user's home directory before you do the 'mv' command
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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Me wrote:

Quote:
... sorry, i made an assumption: be sure you are in the user's home
directory before you do the 'mv' command

I got that anyway. The bad news is, didn't cure the no-system tray
no-taskbar problem. Not sure what recreating the user as Neville also
suggested is going to do, tried making a new user and he didn't have a
system tray or taskbar either.

.... open a CLI (such as command line window) or ALT-F2
and type "kicker" and enter key

what happens?
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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

mjt wrote:

Quote:
... open a CLI (such as command line window) or ALT-F2
and type "kicker" and enter key

what happens?

.... sorry, a command line window would be better since
you can see any error messages

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Neville Cobb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Me wrote:
Quote:
Has anyone here tried the KDE 3.4 beta (3.3.91) yet on
SUSE 9.2? I installed it and most things seem OK except
the panel wouldn't load. I have the icons on the left,
The SUSE "start" button, home, help etc but everything
to the right, suseplugger, volume, clock wont start.
Any clues to offer? there is no bug report on KDE about
this that I can find, and googling hasn't found anything

G
I've tried it, the applets are running. If you load system tray applet

you'll see them. I had this problem and fixed by removing .kde or by
recreating the user. Not sure which one did it for me but I had it
working eventually as it was a pain to load the system tray every time
it booted into KDE.
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me
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 03:43:44 +0000, Neville Cobb wrote:

Quote:
Me wrote:
Has anyone here tried the KDE 3.4 beta (3.3.91) yet on SUSE 9.2? I
installed it and most things seem OK except the panel wouldn't load. I
have the icons on the left, The SUSE "start" button, home, help etc but
everything to the right, suseplugger, volume, clock wont start. Any
clues to offer? there is no bug report on KDE about this that I can
find, and googling hasn't found anything

G
I've tried it, the applets are running. If you load system tray applet
you'll see them. I had this problem and fixed by removing .kde or by
recreating the user. Not sure which one did it for me but I had it working
eventually as it was a pain to load the system tray every time it booted
into KDE.

Thanks for the quick reply, sorry to sound dumb but how do you load the
system tray applet? Or perhaps more important what do you do after
removing .kde or how do you recreate the user?
Thanks again for the answer at least I know it wasn't just me.

G
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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Me wrote:

Quote:
how do you load the
system tray applet? Or perhaps more important what do you do after
removing .kde or how do you recreate the user?

.... when you turn the machine on and you see the grub
boot menu, type a '3', then press enter. you will be
at a text mode login. login as root, 'cd' to the home
directory for the user in question (cd /home/username)
then:
[shell]# rm .kde
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me
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:51:43 -0600, mjt wrote:

Quote:
Me wrote:

how do you load the
system tray applet? Or perhaps more important what do you do after
removing .kde or how do you recreate the user?

... when you turn the machine on and you see the grub boot menu, type a
'3', then press enter. you will be at a text mode login. login as root,
'cd' to the home directory for the user in question (cd /home/username)
then:
[shell]# rm .kde

Thanks for replying Michael, I understand this will remove .kde then what?
Will KDE automatically reinstate a "good" copy of .kde when it launches?
The reason I don't just try it is I went back to 3.3 until I have a
good idea I can get 3.4 up fully. Are you using 3.4?

G
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me
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:11:37 +0000, mjt wrote:

Quote:
Me wrote:

[shell]# rm .kde

Thanks for replying Michael, I understand this will remove .kde then
what? Will KDE automatically reinstate a "good" copy of .kde when it
launches? The reason I don't just try it is I went back to 3.3 until I
have a good idea I can get 3.4 up fully. Are you using 3.4?


... you simply restart the system and when you login as that particular
user, then the kde startup routines will recreate the .kde directory
afresh for that user.

the other option is, instead of removing the .kde directory for that user
is to rename it, so you can copy any data you have in that orig user
directory:
[shell] mv .kde .origkde

Thanks, trying it now, will let you know in about 10 minutes how it went.

G
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me
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:43:21 +0000, mjt wrote:

Quote:
Me wrote:

[shell] mv .kde .origkde

Thanks, trying it now, will let you know in about 10 minutes how it
went.


... sorry, i made an assumption: be sure you are in the user's home
directory before you do the 'mv' command

I got that anyway. The bad news is, didn't cure the no-system tray
no-taskbar problem. Not sure what recreating the user as Neville also
suggested is going to do, tried making a new user and he didn't have a
system tray or taskbar either.

G
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me
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 06:23:15 +0000, Me wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:43:21 +0000, mjt wrote:

Me wrote:

[shell] mv .kde .origkde

Thanks, trying it now, will let you know in about 10 minutes how it
went.


... sorry, i made an assumption: be sure you are in the user's home
directory before you do the 'mv' command

I got that anyway. The bad news is, didn't cure the no-system tray
no-taskbar problem. Not sure what recreating the user as Neville also
suggested is going to do, tried making a new user and he didn't have a
system tray or taskbar either.

G

Ok now I've screwed it up completely, tried to reinstal the original .kde
that threw up some errors and I couldn't launch the system tray manually
either. Sorry didn't note the error messages. I going to bed now
and think about it some more in the morning.

Thanks for your help so far.

Graham
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me
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

On
Quote:

Ok now I've screwed it up completely, tried to reinstal the original .kde
that threw up some errors and I couldn't launch the system tray manually
either.

Never mind that, fixed it, I screwed up the permisions.
WILL go to bed now more tommorow.

G
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Sven Burmeister
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Hi!

Me wrote:
Quote:
Any clues to offer? there is no bug report on KDE about
this that I can find, and googling hasn't found anything

This was a bug in beta1, so you simply have to re-add the things to the
panel. Further, if you want to be able to resize your panel, for some szes
you will have to delete the kickerrc file in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config.

Somehow all of this happens because SuSE keeps a second kickerrc in /etc/...

Sven
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ajtiM
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Me wrote:

Quote:
On

Ok now I've screwed it up completely, tried to reinstal the original .kde
that threw up some errors and I couldn't launch the system tray manually
either.

Never mind that, fixed it, I screwed up the permisions.
WILL go to bed now more tommorow.

G

Wait for next beta or for final version. Also try in
ftp.suse.com...people...adrian.
I did same as you and KDE beta works but with many errors.

Mitja


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Neville Cobb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Anybody try KDE 3.4 yet? Reply with quote

Quote:
This was a bug in beta1, so you simply have to re-add the things to the
panel. Further, if you want to be able to resize your panel, for some szes
you will have to delete the kickerrc file in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config.

Somehow all of this happens because SuSE keeps a second kickerrc in /etc/...

Sven

You are right beta 2 does fix this problem but I noticed with my
installation of beta2 that I could not get a USB or PS2 keyboard to work
at all, so had to drop back to original KDE.
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