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Jilly
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 May 2005
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 Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: disposition of largest private DEC collection in USA
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Dan O'Reilly wrote:
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Actually, it was just "CXO" at the time when I started; there was just the
1 building. If I remember correctly, "CSO" was, I think, in Cincinnati
or someplace similar.
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From my 1993 Digital Telephone Directory, CSO is Columbus, OH
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Carl Karcher
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 34
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Re: MySQL problem
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In a previous article, "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> wrote:
->Been there, done that, fixed it, submitted the patch. At least I'm
->pretty sure from the symptoms described that the problem is test.DIR
->doesn't match in a case sensitive comparison with test.dir. See
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->http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=920330&group_id=
->2506&atid=302506
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->Clearly no one is monitoring patches to GNV. But I think you (SMS)
->already have a better version of this queued for the next Info-Zip
->release?
Thanks for that tip! I hadn't thought to specify the .dir file to
my "older" pre-GNV version of zip I'd been using for years.
While the "version 2.3" of zip supplied with GNV 1.6-2 doesn't work
regardless of case, the "older" non-GNV "version 2.3" with the VMSCLI
option I had does:
$ sho sym/glo zip
ZIP == "$SITE$ROOT:[SYSEXE]ZIP_CLI"
$ zip -r test test.dir
updating: [.TEST.SUB]TEST^_FILE^_THREE.TXT (stored 0%)
updating: [.TEST]TEST^_FILE^_ONE.TXT (stored 0%)
updating: [.TEST]TEST^_FILE^_TWO.TXT (stored 0%)
updating: [.TEST.SUB] (stored 0%)
updating: [.TEST.ODS5^_DIRECTORY]TEST^_FILE^_FOUR.TXT (stored 0%)
updating: [.TEST.ODS5^_DIRECTORY] (stored 0%)
adding: [.TEST] (stored 0%)
Also works:
$ zip -r test "test.dir"
$ zip -r test "TEST.DIR"
$ zip -v
Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP
Type 'zip "-L"' for software license.
This is Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999), by Info-ZIP.
Currently maintained by Onno van der Linden. Please send bug reports to
the authors at Zip-Bugs@lists.wku.edu; see README for details.
Latest sources and executables are at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/infozip, as of
above date; see http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/Zip.html for other sites.
Compiled with DEC C V5.7-004 for OpenVMS (V7.2 for Alpha) on Jul 25 2002.
Zip special compilation options:
USE_EF_UT_TIME
VMSCLI
VMS_PK_EXTRA
[encryption, version 2.9 of 22 April 2000]
Zip environment options:
ZIP_OPTS: [none]
ZIPOPT: [none]
$ bash
bash$ zip -v
Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP
Type 'zip "-L"' for software license.
This is Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999), by Info-ZIP.
Currently maintained by Onno van der Linden. Please send bug reports to
the authors at Zip-Bugs@lists.wku.edu; see README for details.
Latest sources and executables are at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/infozip, as of
above date; see http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/Zip.html for other sites.
Compiled with DEC C T6.5-001 for OpenVMS (V7.3 for Alpha) on Jun 8 2004.
Zip special compilation options:
USE_EF_UT_TIME
VMS_PK_EXTRA
Zip environment options:
ZIP_OPTS: [none]
ZIPOPT: [none]
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-- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison
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Keith Cayemberg
*nix forums addict
Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 80
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Suggestion for VAX VMS 8.2
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JF Mezei wrote:
| Quote: | Wilm Boerhout wrote:
I have seen a few hints of this allegedly new version of VAX VMS, but
cannot seem to find an "official" statement from HP. Can you provide a
pointer? I'm anxious to find out the new features...
In the roadmap NOTES, there is mention that HP is currently evaluating
whether or not to produce VMS 8.2 for VAX.
No mention of features. But one would assume that such a version would
be built as way to give VAX-VMS compatibility with VAX-whatever for the
longest possible time. Hence my suggestion that the engineers should
look ahead and give VAX-VMS lots of flexibility in terms of
interoperating with VMS in the future.
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I think SRI and all those CHARON-VAX Resellers out there should now be
mobilizing their customers and talking directly to HP about the
importance of having at a long-supported OpenVMS V8.2 base level (and
continuing new releases) for the VAX as an important market enhancer and
as a comfortable bridge(s) to the Itanium (or other future OpenVMS
platforms).
Cheers!
Keith Cayemberg |
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Simon Clubley
*nix forums addict
Joined: 10 Mar 2005
Posts: 61
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Re: boot manager by ASM
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In article <1107298888.939338.56380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "HAssAN.Maleki@gmail.com" <HAssAN.Maleki@gmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | just wanna know which steps should I proceed 2 boot a system w/ multy
OSes installed on.
Actually wanna write a multy booter by ASM.
Any body have any inf 'bout it or know any resource?!
TNX so much & byE.
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Wrong newsgroup. This is a newsgroup for discussing the VMS operating system
which was created by DEC. The newsgroup you want is alt.os.development, but
read the newsgroup archives at Google first as your question has been answered
many times.
HTH,
Simon.
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Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
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Charlie Hammond
*nix forums addict
Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 55
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Re: vaxcluster vms v5.5-2 and v7.3
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Somebody wrote:
| Quote: | ...it seems that if A ~ B & B ~C -> A ~C ?
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Nope.
There are certain logical and mathmatical realationships for which this
is true -- equality is the most obvious -- but it does NOT hold when the
relationship is "can be clustered with".
Here is an example the will illustrate how this implication may not work:
John loves Mary and Mary loves Bill.
Does this imply that John loves Bill?
Well, he may, but don't bet on it in general!
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Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA
(hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
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JOUKJ
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 32
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: VMS CVS client with ssh
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John Gemignani, Jr. wrote:
| Quote: | "David Jones" <david-m-jones@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:uCfKd.32097$K72.4106876@twister.southeast.rr.com...
Anyone have a CVS client in use on VMS 7.3-2 that is using ssh?
I have cvs 1.11 and have it almost working but I only get a "bad file
number" error on attempts to check out.
Thanks - DMJ
I have one but it requires a special SSH image that I had to put together
before severing my ties with TCP/IP.
You define a symbol/logical to get the special SSH image, and all CVS
features appear to work.
Contact me if you want the images.
Does this ssh image work for a recent version of HP-TCP/IP services on |
AXP? If yes, than I'm very interersted in this special ssh
Jouk |
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Larry Kilgallen
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Posts: 729
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: %DCL-W-OKTAB again...
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In article <42006FAD.2070207@bigpond.com>, David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> writes:
| Quote: | Larry Kilgallen mentioned in passing:
As I said, it _probably_ means "the program you ran just returned a
random binary number", but it is hard to say until you do the work
to find out what program it is.
From the source listings... the value for the OKTAB message
is 261141 which results in the following
tardis_FTA77> say f$message(261441)
%CLI-S-OKTAB, command tables are already in latest format
Since you are getting %DCL-W-OKTAB rather that %CLI-S-OKTAB
would further support Larry's claim.
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Actually, although I stand by my claim, I am not sure _that_ difference
supports it. I recall in the dark past that %CLI messages get changed
to %DCL messages in certain circumstances. |
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JOUKJ
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 32
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Re: VMS CVS client with ssh
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John Gemignani, Jr. wrote:
| Quote: | "David Jones" <david-m-jones@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:uCfKd.32097$K72.4106876@twister.southeast.rr.com...
Anyone have a CVS client in use on VMS 7.3-2 that is using ssh?
I have cvs 1.11 and have it almost working but I only get a "bad file
number" error on attempts to check out.
Thanks - DMJ
I have one but it requires a special SSH image that I had to put together
before severing my ties with TCP/IP.
You define a symbol/logical to get the special SSH image, and all CVS
features appear to work.
Contact me if you want the images.
Does this ssh image work for a recent version of HP-TCP/IP services on |
AXP? If yes, than I'm very interersted in this special ssh
Jouk |
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Jilly
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 38
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Moving from Alpha to Integrity Webcast
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I have not been able to get it to work on CSWB V1.4. It does work on
Mozilla V1.4 on Mandrake Linux V9.1.
warren sander wrote:
| Quote: | https://www.hpe-learning.com/requirements/default.aspx?tab=1
[IF this doesn't open then let me know but it's certified for
windows, linux, hp-ux, mac
I don't know if anyone has tried OpenVMS Mozilla or not.]
I would check but I don't have a meeting with virtual classroom until
after the 16th webinar date.
-warren
"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
news:1107208938.e4ab198d3b2869d666dd94af01f19e41@teranews...
John Smith wrote:
Delivery: This session will be delivered via the web using the HP
Virtual
Classroom together with audio teleconferencing via the phone.
What software is needed for this ?
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- jilly@stny.rr.com http://home.stny.rr.com/jilly
- mark.jilson@hp.com http://www.hp.com/go/openvms
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John S.
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 16
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Re: ssh in VMS
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<dmakadia@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107327121.210905.113910@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I would like to use SSH in VMS can any one help me with this???? I
would like to use SSH from VMS worksation to VMS server and Window
workstation to VMS server. I am new to VMS so for VMS Guru's this might
be a fullish question. Please help me.... Thanks
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A list SSH clients can be found at
http://www.process.com/sshclients/index.html
There are more clients than what's listed there but it's a very good
starting point. |
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Jilly
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Gregory Morrow
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Jul 2005
Posts: 34
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: JF on the Joys of Circumcision
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Amputate that Foreskin wrote:
| Quote: | Gregory Morrow wrote:
Maybe Nomen Nescio will have to dredge up some of his old posts from
alt.circumcision, lol ;---p
Enjoy............................................
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=circumcision&safe=images&as_uauthors=jfmezei&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=circumcision%20phimosis&safe=images&as_uauthors=jfmezei&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=circumcision%20masturbation&safe=images&as_uauthors=jfmezei&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=circumcision+masturbate+author:jfmezei&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d&filter=0
From: jfmezei <jfmezei@videotron.ca
Subject: Re: Circumcision FAQ [1/1]
Date: 1996/12/01
Message-ID: <32A14D22.53E5@videotron.ca
references: <32994531.1E65@videotron.ca> <57g2kf$5db@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM
content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
organization: SPC
mime-version: 1.0
reply-to: jfmezei@videotron.ca
newsgroups: misc.kids
x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
Grace Boockholdt wrote:
It is unclear whether you are describing an *adult* circ
or an infant circ. My understanding is that in an *adult*
circ, the above is correct...but not so with reference to
infant circ.
From looking at guys in the locker room, it seems that most have quite a
bit of inner foreskin left, and most who are cut are cut at birth.
Therefore, I think that it is wrong to say that an infant circumcision
removes the inner foreskin.
It may remove some inner foreskin, none or all, but you cannot
generalise. But you can *and should* advise parents who do decide to
have their son cut to request that all of the inner foreskin be left
intact. Hey, if you are not going to convince them to leave son intact,
at least give them hints on how to get a decent circumcision done on
their infant.
As far as the frenulum is concerned, has it ever occured to you that it
just might be that some are born with short/thin frenulums and some have
thick ones ? Perhaps some even have the frenulum "shrink" during puberty
(speculation on my part). So I do not think that it is fair to say that
all frenulums are cut off during an infant circ.
There is no exaggeration to the fact that circ
permanently alters the function of the natural
penis.
Yeah, that is the goal of circumcision. YOu'll get no debate there.
But you'll get a debate on whether that alteration is good, neutral or
bad. With circumcision, you may loose on the sensitivity of glans, but
gain on the sensitivity of the inner foreskin and shaft skin because
they become smooth and somewhat tight on shaft and are therefore more
directly stimulated.
And summing up the total sexual sensitivity during very subjective
thing to do. And since circumcised males can still masturbate, have
orgasm and reproduce, then circumcision cannot be all that bad.
There is no exaggeration to the fact
that removal of the foreskin means the removal
of thousands of exquisitely sensitive Meissner
nerve endings which, on the penis, only reside
in the foreskin.
Define foreskin. Most of the foreskin is just normal regular shaft skin.
Only about 1.5" of the foreskin is the inner foreskin which is the
sensitive part.
And to those who claim that the "frenar band" (where inner foreskin
transforms into/meets the shaft skin) is more sensitive, I say:
Could it be that it has more nerves/square cm than other inner foreskin
simply because the skin is not stretched and there is therefore more
skin per square cm in that wrinkled skin ?
From my personnal experience, I am much more aware of my inner foreskin
now than before sinply because before, it was "hidden" or bunched up at
the rim of head and received little or no attention and when it was
moist, it was next to impossible to rub your fingers on it. I have news
for you, the moistness which accumulates under the foreskin is NOT
lubricant, it is the opposite of this. The moistness is NOT pre-cum.
The foreskin is natural. As natural
as your nose. Unless there is something wrong
with your nose...it should be left alone. Same
with the foreskin. If there are problems with
the foreskin, they should THEN be addressed.
Agreed. but you shoudl also agree that some do not like their noses and
some have problems with their noses.
I give my sons as many choices as I can. Both
my boys have haircuts I don't particularly like
at all. They will choose the religion they wish...or not
choose one...it's up to them. We teach them
morals and consequences without religion being
necessary to accomplish this. We educate them
This is your own attitude towards the bringing up of a child. While I
tend to agree with you, I also respect the right of parents to instill
more direction into the way their child develops. How much is too much
is hard to judge.
If it's purely emotional/social...it belongs to
the individual to decide for himself.
If the parents culture prevents them from teaching their child about the
care of his foreskin, chances are that the guy will develop foreskin
problems. The parents would therefore acknowledge THEIR problem by
having son circumcised so that their cultural drawback does not cause
their son problems later in life.
In the above case, the cultural background of the parents is very
important. If they can't talk about sex to their kid, I consider this a
problem, but the fact remains that they will still have a kid.
}SHORTENING OF THE SKIN BETWEEN THE BASE OF PENIS AND CORONNA OF GLANS.
This is sugar-coating. Circumcision is the
removal of erogenous tissue of the penis.
*Infant* circumcision is the removal of
erogenous tissue of the penis withOUT
consent.
If you call shaft skin erogenous tissue, then fine. But the simple fact
that I, a single individual, have gained from having my long skin
shortened means that you cannot use the word "ALL" in your ddefinitions
of circumcision as an evil thing to do. And i beleive that there are
plenty of adults whose condition improved after circumcision, some more
radical than others.
So? Some women's labia are long and thick
and over hangs. Shall we start advocating
the "new and improved smoooooth female
genitalia" "streamlined for esthetics", "easier
to clean...smells fresh, too!"?
Don't give doctors any ideas !   ;-)
If your labia were long and thick and you felt that it hindered on your
sex and appearance and knew that a simple procedure could fix that,
wouldn't you consider it ? Some are able to accept their body as it is,
and some strive to improve the way they look (with sports, better food,
, hair colouring and to the extreme: cosmetic surgery)
If parents think that their son, once grown, will feel
inferior/different because of his foreskin, they will surely consider
infant circumcision as an improvement.
You need to convince those that when their just born son grows up, it is
the circumcised ones that will feel inferior/different.
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Wow! Can you say "foreskin fiesta"!?
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Kenneth Farmer
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Joined: 29 Jul 2005
Posts: 57
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Official Logo
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"DeanW" <dean.woodward@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f119ada05020123307d1ed8d5@mail.gmail.com...
I just noticed: "the list Keith you made"
Anyway...
| Quote: | Somehow, Ivanhoe's uprooted Oak seems appropriate
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OK I never read Ivanhoe. What does this mean?
Ken
OpenVMS.org
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Christoph Gartmann
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 146
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: %DCL-W-OKTAB again...
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In article <4200765E.1040304@bigpond.com>, David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> writes:
| Quote: | David B Sneddon mentioned in passing:
Since you are getting %DCL-W-OKTAB rather that %CLI-S-OKTAB
would further support Larry's claim.
Just to clarify... I hope
tardis_FTA49> say f$message(261440)
%CLI-W-OKTAB, command tables are already in latest format
tardis_FTA49> exit 261440
%DCL-W-OKTAB, command tables are already in latest format
So whatever is doing it is exiting with a value of 261440.
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Ok, this helps. The problem is with the OSU webserver, it doesn't want to start
up and shuts down with the above error message. I get the same error message in
the NETSERVER.LOG file of the HTTP_SERVER account and in the startup logfile
of the webserver. There are some cli$routines in the code, so I'll have a look
at them.
Regards,
Christoph Gartmann
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Max-Planck-Institut fuer Phone : +49-761-5108-464 Fax: -452
Immunbiologie
Postfach 1169 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de
D-79011 Freiburg, Germany
http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html |
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John Gemignani, Jr.
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 May 2005
Posts: 12
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject:
Re: HP parody site
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"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
news:1107333752.c310f17c2c4ceadb82f1ecec60905201@teranews...
It's also proof that PH doesn't see a future in VMS ... um ... SMV. |
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