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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:43 am Post subject:
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In message <1153410021.12303.0@proxy02.news.clara.net>, BearItAll wrote:
| Quote: | Otherwise describing
how to do the Packman bit over the phone wouldn't be easy.
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Or, you could do it for her by SSHing into her machine.
If she's not on a fixed IP, perhaps have her send you an e-mail from which
you should be able to determine her IP address by scanning the headers.
Have her send it to you at a prearranged time when you can receive it
quickly and get into her machine while she stays online. |
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houghi
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Robert Hull wrote:
| Quote: | My 9.1 got broke - 10.0 fixed it. Don't need 10.1
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I also went from 9.1 to 10.0. Curisousity, not because it was broke.
| Quote: | Some parts of my current 10.0 onstall have suffered from a misguided
desire to check out the latest version of a particular package then
reverting, so I'm fixing it slowly with a second install of 10.0 -
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Happend to me with Firefox. I am as yet unable to go back to 1.0 from
1.5. I admit I have not tried very hard.
| Quote: | still don't need 10.1
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Same here. I am now more interested in 10.2.
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Let's not be too tough on our own ignorance. It's the thing that makes
America great. If America weren't incomparably ignorant, how could we
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Robert Hull
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject:
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On Thursday 20 July 2006 17:47, houghi <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote
in alt.os.linux.suse:
| Quote: | BearItAll wrote:
Yes I was reading just this morning on the Novell site that they are
wanted to increase distro support periods. I'm glad about that
because for the most part a wholly new version isn't really
necessary.
That has always been the case. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yet
everybody somehow suddenly 'needs' the latest version. :-(
My 9.1 got broke - 10.0 fixed it. Don't need 10.1 |
Some parts of my current 10.0 onstall have suffered from a misguided
desire to check out the latest version of a particular package then
reverting, so I'm fixing it slowly with a second install of 10.0 -
still don't need 10.1
YMMV as always
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demo
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject:
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Subject: Re: Version confusion
From: demo <demo@localhost.localdomain>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.suse
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:32:35 -0300
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:56:18 -0700, robert wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
I'm a long time Suse user, currently sticking with 9.3. My question is
really related to the best version for my mom, who is a Linux convert
currently running Suse 9.2 . She has had some problems writing CD's as
non-root and a few other things, and since I live in another country
and will paying a visit, I'd like to help her upgrade.
Thanks!
Robert
For the specific CD burning problem, I could tell you my experience. I |
have installed SUSE 10 on hard disk, also, I tried Suse 10.1 Live CD
without installation and MEPIS 6.0RC2 live CD also without installatioin.
SUSE 10 and SUSE 10.1 live CD I can erase and burn CD as normal user
without a problem. but MEPIS 6RC2 live CD only allow me to erase CD as
root. Just for your reference. |
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houghi
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject:
Re: Version confusion
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BearItAll wrote:
| Quote: | Yes I was reading just this morning on the Novell site that they are wanted
to increase distro support periods. I'm glad about that because for the
most part a wholly new version isn't really necessary.
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That has always been the case. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yet
everybody somehow suddenly 'needs' the latest version. :-(
--
We all came out to Montreux Frank Zappa and the Mothers
On the Lake Geneva shoreline Were at the best place around
To make records with a mobile But some stupid with a flare gun
We didn't have much time Burned the place to the ground |
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houghi
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject:
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BearItAll wrote:
| Quote: | 10.1 is said by many to be better but
with some problems with the software manager, these have a work-a-round and
no doubt eventually a fix.
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10.1 had problems. These problems are solved the moment you install it.
| Quote: | But, as it's your mother, concider paying so that she can have the video
licences installed for her at install time (SLED10). Otherwise describing
how to do the Packman bit over the phone wouldn't be easy.
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ssh IP_of_mom
su -
yast
exit
Very easy.
There are other ways to do this as well. YaST can do remote
configuration, I believe. I just did not try it.
--
We all came out to Montreux Frank Zappa and the Mothers
On the Lake Geneva shoreline Were at the best place around
To make records with a mobile But some stupid with a flare gun
We didn't have much time Burned the place to the ground |
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BearItAll
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject:
Re: Version confusion
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houghi wrote:
| Quote: | robert wrote:
1) 10.1 was release in Nov 2005 , right ? Amazon says so, and I seem to
remember that release being 10.1 .
No. 10.0 was release 2005.
2) What was released in april / may 2006 ? What is the current version?
Yes, 10.1
Does this version have YOU?
Yes.
Can I get printed manauls and support ?
yes, although the manuals are not as extended as they were up till 9.3
I'm
following this link and searching the forums, and I seem to be missing
something:
http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/
That doesn't show a release date, amazon shows nov 2005, but this post
mentions an April release and the new package manager:
http://groups.google.com.br/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_frm/thread/f1b20cdfc079a270/202eaa690c68e354?lnk=gst&q=10.2+delayed&rnum=1#202eaa690c68e354
It is a Novell product, so beliecve Novell. There is a new package
manager. However the generic user should not notice a great difference
(If you say that there is a big difference, then you are the system
administrator, not the user)
3) Suse 10.2 is AFAIK being released in 2007 . Is that right, ie, at
least 14 months between versions? I'm not complaining, just stating my
confusion.
You are confused by what Amazon tells you. There used to be a 6 months
between versions. Now this has been extended to 8 months.
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Yes I was reading just this morning on the Novell site that they are wanted
to increase distro support periods. I'm glad about that because for the
most part a wholly new version isn't really necessary. |
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BearItAll
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Version confusion
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robert wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
I'm a long time Suse user, currently sticking with 9.3. My question is
really related to the best version for my mom, who is a Linux convert
currently running Suse 9.2 . She has had some problems writing CD's as
non-root and a few other things, and since I live in another country
and will paying a visit, I'd like to help her upgrade.
I searched the forums and my confusion is:
1) 10.1 was release in Nov 2005 , right ? Amazon says so, and I seem to
remember that release being 10.1 .
2) What was released in april / may 2006 ? What is the current version?
Does this version have YOU? Can I get printed manauls and support ? I'm
following this link and searching the forums, and I seem to be missing
something:
http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/
That doesn't show a release date, amazon shows nov 2005, but this post
mentions an April release and the new package manager:
http://groups.google.com.br/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_frm/thread/f1b20cdfc079a270/202eaa690c68e354?lnk=gst&q=10.2+delayed&rnum=1#202eaa690c68e354
3) Suse 10.2 is AFAIK being released in 2007 . Is that right, ie, at
least 14 months between versions? I'm not complaining, just stating my
confusion.
Thanks!
Robert
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If we all waited for next years version we would be waiting for ever. Best
to start with what is available now.
Firsly we know that 10.0 is a great distro, at least as good as 9.3
(admittedly 9.3 was a landmark distro, perfect right out of the box from
very early in it's release period). 10.1 is said by many to be better but
with some problems with the software manager, these have a work-a-round and
no doubt eventually a fix.
But, as it's your mother, concider paying so that she can have the video
licences installed for her at install time (SLED10). Otherwise describing
how to do the Packman bit over the phone wouldn't be easy. She also gets
her support link so saving you any worry that she might get stuck. It's
only something like $39 a year, whats that compared to all she has done for
you, changed your nappies, fed you beef and dumplins, baked sticky toffee
pudding... but don't feel like I'm preasurizing you or anything. |
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houghi
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject:
Re: Version confusion
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robert wrote:
| Quote: | 1) 10.1 was release in Nov 2005 , right ? Amazon says so, and I seem to
remember that release being 10.1 .
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No. 10.0 was release 2005.
| Quote: | 2) What was released in april / may 2006 ? What is the current version?
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Yes, 10.1
| Quote: | Does this version have YOU?
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Yes.
| Quote: | Can I get printed manauls and support ?
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yes, although the manuals are not as extended as they were up till 9.3
It is a Novell product, so beliecve Novell. There is a new package
manager. However the generic user should not notice a great difference
(If you say that there is a big difference, then you are the system
administrator, not the user)
| Quote: | 3) Suse 10.2 is AFAIK being released in 2007 . Is that right, ie, at
least 14 months between versions? I'm not complaining, just stating my
confusion.
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You are confused by what Amazon tells you. There used to be a 6 months
between versions. Now this has been extended to 8 months.
--
We all came out to Montreux Frank Zappa and the Mothers
On the Lake Geneva shoreline Were at the best place around
To make records with a mobile But some stupid with a flare gun
We didn't have much time Burned the place to the ground |
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robert
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 11
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject:
Version confusion
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Hi all,
I'm a long time Suse user, currently sticking with 9.3. My question is
really related to the best version for my mom, who is a Linux convert
currently running Suse 9.2 . She has had some problems writing CD's as
non-root and a few other things, and since I live in another country
and will paying a visit, I'd like to help her upgrade.
I searched the forums and my confusion is:
1) 10.1 was release in Nov 2005 , right ? Amazon says so, and I seem to
remember that release being 10.1 .
2) What was released in april / may 2006 ? What is the current version?
Does this version have YOU? Can I get printed manauls and support ? I'm
following this link and searching the forums, and I seem to be missing
something:
http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/
That doesn't show a release date, amazon shows nov 2005, but this post
mentions an April release and the new package manager:
http://groups.google.com.br/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_frm/thread/f1b20cdfc079a270/202eaa690c68e354?lnk=gst&q=10.2+delayed&rnum=1#202eaa690c68e354
3) Suse 10.2 is AFAIK being released in 2007 . Is that right, ie, at
least 14 months between versions? I'm not complaining, just stating my
confusion.
Thanks!
Robert |
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