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Martin Klar *nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Norman Elliott wrote:
| Quote: | but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
Any ideas please?
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Try "acpi=off noapic nolapic" as kernel parameters at the boot prompt.
That fixed some mouse-trouble with X and kernel 2.6. for me.
HTH Martin |
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Norman Elliott *nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Martin Klar wrote:
| Quote: | Norman Elliott wrote:
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
Any ideas please?
Try "acpi=off noapic nolapic" as kernel parameters at the boot prompt.
That fixed some mouse-trouble with X and kernel 2.6. for me.
HTH Martin
Thanks Martin, |
I have tried that now and also tried disabling acpi in the bios but it didn't work.
I have plugged a PS/2 mouse into the mouseport and it will work!
This is okay as a work-around but not very good in the long run.
I suppose that if I could get wireless networkin for 2.4.29 kernel the it would be better.
I have used ndiswrapper so for but keep seing references to madwifi so don't know if that
will help or is something else anyway.
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chuck@nil.car *nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 100
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
| Quote: | Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use as
an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc is
3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based small
distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12 at boot up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use it
with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus WL-107G so
I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a series
of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o etc
ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make modules_install
but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I can
use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same xorg.conf
file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
Any ideas please?
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You *did* run make menuconfig before you ran make clean dep... right?
otherwise, you just got the defaults and compiling the kernel is
pointless.
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Norman Elliott *nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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chuckcar wrote:
| Quote: | Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use as
an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc is
3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based small
distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12 at boot up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use it
with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus WL-107G so
I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a series
of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o etc
ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make modules_install
but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I can
use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same xorg.conf
file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
Any ideas please?
You *did* run make menuconfig before you ran make clean dep... right?
otherwise, you just got the defaults and compiling the kernel is
pointless.
Sorry, no, I ran make oldconfig guess tha may be the problem!!!! |
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Unruh *nix forums Guru
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 1166
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> writes:
| Quote: | chuckcar wrote:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use as
an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc is
3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based small
distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12 at boot up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use it
with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus WL-107G so
I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a series
of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o etc
ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make modules_install
but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I can
use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same xorg.conf
file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
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So, the problem you have is a mouse problem. What kind of "mouse"
(touchpad, jogglestick) do you have?
Check to see if it was correctly recognised by the setup routing in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Or buy a usb mouse and use that instead.
| Quote: |
Any ideas please?
You *did* run make menuconfig before you ran make clean dep... right?
otherwise, you just got the defaults and compiling the kernel is
pointless.
Sorry, no, I ran make oldconfig guess tha may be the problem!!!! |
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chuck@nil.car *nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 100
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b89289k21j773@corp.supernews.com:
| Quote: | chuckcar wrote:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use as
an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc is
3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based small
distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12 at boot
up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use it
with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus WL-107G so
I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a series
of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o etc
ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make
modules_install but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I
can use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same xorg.conf
file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
Any ideas please?
You *did* run make menuconfig before you ran make clean dep... right?
otherwise, you just got the defaults and compiling the kernel is
pointless.
Sorry, no, I ran make oldconfig guess tha may be the problem!!!!
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That is only done after you copy your old .config elsewhere then do a
make mrproper and copy the .config back because the compile process got
confused/foobarred and wouldn't finish without errors. It requires a
..config file to work properly, I have no idea what happens if one isn't
there - maybe the kernel came with one, but it wouldn't be your's.
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chuck@nil.car *nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 100
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Unruh <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in
news:e919rt$sfj$3@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca:
| Quote: | Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> writes:
chuckcar wrote:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use as
an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc is
3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based small
distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12 at boot
up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use it
with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus WL-107G
so I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a
series of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o
etc ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with
ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make
modules_install but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I
can use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same
xorg.conf file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
So, the problem you have is a mouse problem. What kind of "mouse"
(touchpad, jogglestick) do you have?
Check to see if it was correctly recognised by the setup routing in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Or buy a usb mouse and use that instead.
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How do you propose for a mouse not recognised by the kernel be
recognised by X? That's like trying to print a test page to a parallel
port printer when your computer has no parallel port!
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Unruh *nix forums Guru
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 1166
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:20 am Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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chuckcar <chuck@nil.car> writes:
| Quote: | Unruh <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in
news:e919rt$sfj$3@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> writes:
chuckcar wrote:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use as
an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc is
3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based small
distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12 at boot
up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use it
with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus WL-107G
so I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a
series of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o
etc ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with
ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make
modules_install but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I
can use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same
xorg.conf file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
So, the problem you have is a mouse problem. What kind of "mouse"
(touchpad, jogglestick) do you have?
Check to see if it was correctly recognised by the setup routing in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Or buy a usb mouse and use that instead.
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| Quote: | How do you propose for a mouse not recognised by the kernel be
recognised by X? That's like trying to print a test page to a parallel
port printer when your computer has no parallel port!
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What he said was
"but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable."
so the mouse is recognised but unuseable. It is the mouse problem that
needs to be solved, not a kernel recompile.
So, first we need to know what kind of mouse he has. Then perhaps solutions
can be found. Recompiling a kernel to fix a mouse problem is the last thing
he should do. And most distros come with almost all mouse drivers the
kernel can carry anyway, simply because they do not want the user to find
the distro unseable because the mouse does not work.
Just recompiling the kernel with no idea as to what needs to be fixed is
not a good idea.
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Norman Elliott *nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:41 am Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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chuckcar wrote:
| Quote: | Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b89289k21j773@corp.supernews.com:
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same xorg.conf
file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
Any ideas please?
That is only done after you copy your old .config elsewhere then do a
make mrproper and copy the .config back because the compile process got
confused/foobarred and wouldn't finish without errors. It requires a
.config file to work properly, I have no idea what happens if one isn't
there - maybe the kernel came with one, but it wouldn't be your's.
Okay, |
I see I may have caused some confusion here.
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Right so let's just talk about the 2.4.29 kerenel situation first.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Note ----> The mouse works fine with this kernel and running X<----
It is networking which does not work.
This is why I copied the .config after downloading the sources for it and
ran make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make modules_install
but it still complains about unresolved symbols relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o etc
ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with ndiswrapper.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
End of 2.4.29kernel problem.
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2.6.12 kernel problem
----> Networking works fine <----
mouse pad does not work
This is the situation.
Using the same xorg.conf file when I run startx then the mouse goes wild and menu's appear
and dissapear at random. It is as if the sensitivity of the pad is amplified enormously.
The slightest touch or movement seems to be magnified.
If I shutdown, plug in a PS/2 mouse, and restart the it works.
The bios setting for the touch pad is auto disable which means that if a PS/2 mouse is
plugged in then I can get networking and run X and the mouse works fine.
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So 2 different problems depending upon the kernel being used
Hope you see why I am baffled.
Norm |
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Unruh *nix forums Guru
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 1166
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> writes:
| Quote: | chuckcar wrote:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b89289k21j773@corp.supernews.com:
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same xorg.conf
file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
Any ideas please?
That is only done after you copy your old .config elsewhere then do a
make mrproper and copy the .config back because the compile process got
confused/foobarred and wouldn't finish without errors. It requires a
.config file to work properly, I have no idea what happens if one isn't
there - maybe the kernel came with one, but it wouldn't be your's.
Okay,
I see I may have caused some confusion here.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Right so let's just talk about the 2.4.29 kerenel situation first.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Note ----> The mouse works fine with this kernel and running X<----
It is networking which does not work.
This is why I copied the .config after downloading the sources for it and
ran make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make modules_install
but it still complains about unresolved symbols relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o etc
ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with ndiswrapper.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
End of 2.4.29kernel problem.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2.6.12 kernel problem
----> Networking works fine <----
mouse pad does not work
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This is of course a much smaller problem and furthermore is probably
solvable. Especially since using a usb mouse works fine ( and for most
people a mouse would be better than a touch pad anyway.)
Why do you not post which touchpad the xorg.conf file says that you are
using, and what xorg.conf thinks youhave for a mouse.
Have you tried
mouse-test
to test what kind of mouse you have?
It may also be that your mouse driver modules has options for decreasing
the sensitivity of the mouse pad. However, I do not know them, but it is a
possible place to look.
| Quote: | This is the situation.
Using the same xorg.conf file when I run startx then the mouse goes wild and menu's appear
and dissapear at random. It is as if the sensitivity of the pad is amplified enormously.
The slightest touch or movement seems to be magnified.
If I shutdown, plug in a PS/2 mouse, and restart the it works.
The bios setting for the touch pad is auto disable which means that if a PS/2 mouse is
plugged in then I can get networking and run X and the mouse works fine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So 2 different problems depending upon the kernel being used
Hope you see why I am baffled.
Norm |
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Norman Elliott *nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Unruh wrote:
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2.6.12 kernel problem
----> Networking works fine <----
mouse pad does not work
This is of course a much smaller problem and furthermore is probably
solvable. Especially since using a usb mouse works fine ( and for most
people a mouse would be better than a touch pad anyway.)
Well it's a PS/2 mouse I am plugging in which is one reason for me being baffled!! |
| Quote: | Why do you not post which touchpad the xorg.conf file says that you are
using, and what xorg.conf thinks youhave for a mouse.
Yes, I will do that plus relevent parts of dmesg, messages and syslog |
| Quote: | Have you tried
mouse-test
to test what kind of mouse you have?
didn't know about this, will find/try it, thanks
It may also be that your mouse driver modules has options for decreasing
the sensitivity of the mouse pad. However, I do not know them, but it is a
possible place to look.
Did wonder about that but didn't know where to look. |
But why would the sensitivity be different when the only change was the kernel?
or are the versions of the modules changing with the kernel so that it may be a fault with
the 2.6.12 mouse module perhaps?
| Quote: |
This is the situation.
Using the same xorg.conf file when I run startx then the mouse goes wild and menu's appear
and dissapear at random. It is as if the sensitivity of the pad is amplified enormously.
The slightest touch or movement seems to be magnified.
If I shutdown, plug in a PS/2 mouse, and restart the it works.
The bios setting for the touch pad is auto disable which means that if a PS/2 mouse is
plugged in then I can get networking and run X and the mouse works fine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So 2 different problems depending upon the kernel being used
Hope you see why I am baffled.
Norm
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Unruh *nix forums Guru
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 1166
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> writes:
| Quote: | Unruh wrote:
2.6.12 kernel problem
----> Networking works fine <----
mouse pad does not work
This is of course a much smaller problem and furthermore is probably
solvable. Especially since using a usb mouse works fine ( and for most
people a mouse would be better than a touch pad anyway.)
Well it's a PS/2 mouse I am plugging in which is one reason for me being baffled!!
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Sorry, I thought it was a laptop. Did not realise they had ps/2 ports.
Why does it baffle you that it would work?
| Quote: | Why do you not post which touchpad the xorg.conf file says that you are
using, and what xorg.conf thinks youhave for a mouse.
Yes, I will do that plus relevent parts of dmesg, messages and syslog
Have you tried
mouse-test
to test what kind of mouse you have?
didn't know about this, will find/try it, thanks
It may also be that your mouse driver modules has options for decreasing
the sensitivity of the mouse pad. However, I do not know them, but it is a
possible place to look.
Did wonder about that but didn't know where to look.
But why would the sensitivity be different when the only change was the kernel?
or are the versions of the modules changing with the kernel so that it may be a fault with
the 2.6.12 mouse module perhaps?
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A change to 2.6 from 2.4 is a major change in the linux kernel. The modules
are part of thekernel and all of them changed as well.
Yes, it is the mouse module that is having trouble.
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This is the situation.
Using the same xorg.conf file when I run startx then the mouse goes wild and menu's appear
and dissapear at random. It is as if the sensitivity of the pad is amplified enormously.
The slightest touch or movement seems to be magnified.
If I shutdown, plug in a PS/2 mouse, and restart the it works.
The bios setting for the touch pad is auto disable which means that if a PS/2 mouse is
plugged in then I can get networking and run X and the mouse works fine.
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So 2 different problems depending upon the kernel being used
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Not surprising at all.
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Hope you see why I am baffled.
Norm
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Norman Elliott *nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Unruh wrote:
| Quote: | Well it's a PS/2 mouse I am plugging in which is one reason for me being baffled!!
Sorry, I thought it was a laptop. Did not realise they had ps/2 ports.
Why does it baffle you that it would work?
It may also be that your mouse driver modules has options for decreasing
the sensitivity of the mouse pad. However, I do not know them, but it is a
possible place to look.
Did wonder about that but didn't know where to look.
But why would the sensitivity be different when the only change was the kernel?
or are the versions of the modules changing with the kernel so that it may be a fault with
the 2.6.12 mouse module perhaps?
A change to 2.6 from 2.4 is a major change in the linux kernel. The modules
are part of thekernel and all of them changed as well.
Yes, it is the mouse module that is having trouble.
Using the same xorg.conf file when I run startx then the mouse goes wild and menu's appear
and dissapear at random. It is as if the sensitivity of the pad is amplified enormously.
The slightest touch or movement seems to be magnified.
If I shutdown, plug in a PS/2 mouse, and restart the it works.
The bios setting for the touch pad is auto disable which means that if a PS/2 mouse is
plugged in then I can get networking and run X and the mouse works fine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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xorg.conf is set up for PS/2 mouse on /dev/mouse
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bits from booting with PS/2 mouse plugged in
dmesg
<snip>
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
<snip>
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.
<snip>
/var/log/messages
<snip>
Jul 12 11:54:30 vector kernel: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
<snip>
Jul 12 12:05:28 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver
resynched.
Jul 12 12:05:29 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver
resynched.
<snip>
/var/log/syslog
<snip>
Jul 12 12:05:28 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 12 12:05:29 vector last message repeated 5 times
<snip>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bits for booting without PS/2 mouse plugged in
dmesg
<snip>
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.
<snip>
/var/log/messages
<snip>
Jul 12 23:59:56 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver
resynched.
Jul 13 00:00:04 vector last message repeated 14 times
Jul 13 00:14:22 vector -- MARK --
Jul 13 00:16:36 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver
resynched.
Jul 13 00:16:43 vector last message repeated 447 times
Jul 13 00:34:22 vector -- MARK --
Jul 13 00:35:02 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver
resynched.
Jul 13 00:35:05 vector last message repeated 128 times
<snip>
/var/log/syslog
<snip>
Jul 9 19:56:49 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 19:56:53 vector last message repeated 398 times
Jul 9 19:58:48 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 19:58:54 vector last message repeated 938 times
Jul 9 20:11:55 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 20:12:36 vector last message repeated 1181 times
Jul 9 20:35:50 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 20:36:05 vector last message repeated 1518 times
Jul 9 20:36:12 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost
synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
Jul 9 20:36:12 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 20:37:07 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost
synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
Jul 9 20:37:07 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 20:37:09 vector last message repeated 428 times
Jul 9 20:38:33 vector last message repeated 240 times
Jul 9 20:48:24 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 20:48:29 vector last message repeated 794 times
Jul 9 20:51:49 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at
byte 1
Jul 9 20:51:53 vector last message repeated 770 times
Jul 9 20:53:54 vector last message repeated 2719 times
Jul 9 20:53:57 vector kernel: psmouse.c: GlidePoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost
synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
<snip>
No doubt a driver problem
But how to fix it?
Hope you can suggest a solution.
I will be away for about a week from tonight so will have to pick up on this after that.
Thanks for the helpful ideas,
Norm |
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b89289k21j773@corp.supernews.com:
| Quote: | chuckcar wrote:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use as
an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc is
3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based small
distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12 at boot
up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use it
with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus WL-107G so
I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a series
of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o, wlan_acl.o etc
ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver with ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make
modules_install but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I
can use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same xorg.conf
file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can have
network and X
Any ideas please?
You *did* run make menuconfig before you ran make clean dep... right?
otherwise, you just got the defaults and compiling the kernel is
pointless.
Sorry, no, I ran make oldconfig guess tha may be the problem!!!!
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First of all ignore this unruh character as he's a troll that followed
me from my isp and knows *nothing* about computers and and even less
about linux. He got peeved when I started correcting his nonsence back
on our isp's "help" group and has been trolling me ever since. He's just
an adolescent kid. He does a search for my handle on google and the
proceeds to usurp anybody I try to help by "outposting" me. You need to:
Get a copy of the kernel howto from
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO/index.html
1. cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.12
2. cp .config /root - just to be safe file is probably junk
3. make mrproper
4. make menuconfig
go through every submenu here (you don't have to use the mouse you can
use the arrow, tab and enter keys.) You *do* have to know what hardware
you have on your computer - read: video card, sound card modem. Any
problems reply to me. Ignore unruh *completely* or it will get worse -
trust me, he's been trolling me for 6 months now and he changes his
handle all the time.
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chuck@nil.car *nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 100
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject:
Re: unresolved symbols and other problems
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Unruh <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in
news:e91iol$1t2$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca:
| Quote: | chuckcar <chuck@nil.car> writes:
Unruh <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in
news:e919rt$sfj$3@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> writes:
chuckcar wrote:
Norman Elliott <nelliott@uklinux.net> wrote in
news:12b4h6fm9866o05@corp.supernews.com:
Hi,
I have posted similar messages to this this in several groups as I
haven't a clue as to what exactly is causing the problem.
I have an old laptop - Fujitsu Lifebook 780Tx which I want to use
as an X terminal to my main PC.
It came with win98 on it an I shrank it to about 1Gig ( the disc
is 3.2Gig ) and installed vector 5.1 standard ( a slackware based
small distro ) It gives me to choice of kernel 2.4.29 and 2.6.12
at boot up.
Now if I boot the 2.4.29 kernel then X starts okay and I can use
it with icewm but I cannot use my pcmcia network card an Asus
WL-107G so I cannot access my main PC.
Before setting up with ndiswrapper I run depmod -a I and get a
series of 'unresolved symbols' errors relating to wlan.o,
wlan_acl.o etc ath_hal ath_pci.o etc so don't set up the driver
with ndiswrapper.
I downloaded the 2.4.29 source and compiled it and ran
make clean && make dep && make && make modules && make
modules_install but it still complains.
If I boot the 2.6.12 kernel I get no unresolved symbol errors so I
can use the network card with ndiswrapper
but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable.
I am running version 6.8.2 of X and trying to use the same
xorg.conf file in each case.
I would prefer to use 2.6.12 but 2.4.29 would be fine if I can
have network and X
So, the problem you have is a mouse problem. What kind of "mouse"
(touchpad, jogglestick) do you have?
Check to see if it was correctly recognised by the setup routing in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Or buy a usb mouse and use that instead.
How do you propose for a mouse not recognised by the kernel be
recognised by X? That's like trying to print a test page to a parallel
port printer when your computer has no parallel port!
What he said was
"but if I start X then the mouse goes crazy and menu's appear and
disappear at will. so it is unusable."
so the mouse is recognised but unuseable. It is the mouse problem that
needs to be solved, not a kernel recompile.
So, first we need to know what kind of mouse he has. Then perhaps
solutions can be found. Recompiling a kernel to fix a mouse problem is
the last thing he should do. And most distros come with almost all
mouse drivers the kernel can carry anyway, simply because they do not
want the user to find the distro unseable because the mouse does not
work.
Just recompiling the kernel with no idea as to what needs to be fixed
is not a good idea.
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(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
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The problem *resulted* from *compiling* the kernel in the *first* place.
Re-read the OP if you even give a hoot STEVE.
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