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Vladimir Florinski
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 49
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 Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:09 am Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:30:24 +0000, Philip wrote:
| Quote: | I finally upgraded my RH9 to FC4 and was happy to see ACPI actually
power off my machine when I did a shut down.
Well that was yesterday. Today no such thing. I have been tweaking
things to get things back to my comfort zone, but only with
applications. What did I do?
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Obviously, you upgraded the kernel. The ACPI version is different in the
two logs.
| Quote: | There is nothing in the grub menu.lst to turn of acpi. Also the spec
sheet says the motherboard supports ACPI.
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I hope this is not an Asus motherboard?
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Philip
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Joined: 13 Mar 2004
Posts: 55
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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Vladimir Florinski wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:30:24 +0000, Philip wrote:
I finally upgraded my RH9 to FC4 and was happy to see ACPI actually
power off my machine when I did a shut down.
Well that was yesterday. Today no such thing. I have been tweaking
things to get things back to my comfort zone, but only with
applications. What did I do?
Obviously, you upgraded the kernel. The ACPI version is different in the
two logs.
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duh..yum did it. When I boot on the 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 kernel acpi comes up.
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There is nothing in the grub menu.lst to turn of acpi. Also the spec
sheet says the motherboard supports ACPI.
I hope this is not an Asus motherboard?
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I am not sure what it is. The box is a HP Pavilion 9695C. The closest I
can get to a specification for the motherboard is:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?cc=us&docname=bph05885&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
Generically described as "Motherboard and Jumper Settings for Systems
with AMD Athlon Processor and an AMD Irongate (AMD-751) Chipset".
How do I find out what in the kernel-2.6.17-1.2139_FC4 is disabling acpi?
Thanks for the hints so far.
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Philip
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Joined: 13 Mar 2004
Posts: 55
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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Philip wrote:
| Quote: | Vladimir Florinski wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:30:24 +0000, Philip wrote:
I finally upgraded my RH9 to FC4 and was happy to see ACPI actually
power off my machine when I did a shut down.
Well that was yesterday. Today no such thing. I have been tweaking
things to get things back to my comfort zone, but only with
applications. What did I do?
Obviously, you upgraded the kernel. The ACPI version is different in the
two logs.
duh..yum did it. When I boot on the 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 kernel acpi comes up.
There is nothing in the grub menu.lst to turn of acpi. Also the spec
sheet says the motherboard supports ACPI.
I hope this is not an Asus motherboard?
I am not sure what it is. The box is a HP Pavilion 9695C. The closest I
can get to a specification for the motherboard is:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?cc=us&docname=bph05885&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
Generically described as "Motherboard and Jumper Settings for Systems
with AMD Athlon Processor and an AMD Irongate (AMD-751) Chipset".
How do I find out what in the kernel-2.6.17-1.2139_FC4 is disabling acpi?
Thanks for the hints so far.
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Just updated to 2.6.17-1.2141_FC4 and it is also disabling acpi. |
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Lenard
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 250
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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Philip wrote:
<snip>
| Quote: | How do I find out what in the kernel-2.6.17-1.2139_FC4 is disabling acpi?
Thanks for the hints so far.
Just updated to 2.6.17-1.2141_FC4 and it is also disabling acpi.
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Which is one of the many reasons I no longer use Fedora/Red Hat supplied
kernels. A quick edit may fix your problem;
A sample grub kernel line entry that you can try;
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.17-1.2141_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb acpi=on apm=off
Notice the apci and apm portions. As a suggestion copy the current entry for
the new kernel and change the name slightly and apply the changes as per
the example.
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"A personal computer is called a personal computer because it's yours,
Anything that runs on that computer, you should have control over."
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chuck@nil.car
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 100
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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Philip <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:s%vrg.60702$Lm5.34098@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
| Quote: | Vladimir Florinski wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:30:24 +0000, Philip wrote:
I finally upgraded my RH9 to FC4 and was happy to see ACPI actually
power off my machine when I did a shut down.
Well that was yesterday. Today no such thing. I have been tweaking
things to get things back to my comfort zone, but only with
applications. What did I do?
Obviously, you upgraded the kernel. The ACPI version is different in
the two logs.
duh..yum did it. When I boot on the 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 kernel acpi
comes up.
There is nothing in the grub menu.lst to turn of acpi. Also the spec
sheet says the motherboard supports ACPI.
I hope this is not an Asus motherboard?
I am not sure what it is. The box is a HP Pavilion 9695C. The closest
I can get to a specification for the motherboard is:
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Read - lowend name brand consumer desktop - just the *wrong* type of
computer to try to run linux on as stated before.
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Philip
*nix forums addict
Joined: 13 Mar 2004
Posts: 55
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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chuckcar wrote:
| Quote: | Philip <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:s%vrg.60702$Lm5.34098@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
Vladimir Florinski wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:30:24 +0000, Philip wrote:
I finally upgraded my RH9 to FC4 and was happy to see ACPI actually
power off my machine when I did a shut down.
Well that was yesterday. Today no such thing. I have been tweaking
things to get things back to my comfort zone, but only with
applications. What did I do?
Obviously, you upgraded the kernel. The ACPI version is different in
the two logs.
duh..yum did it. When I boot on the 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 kernel acpi
comes up.
There is nothing in the grub menu.lst to turn of acpi. Also the spec
sheet says the motherboard supports ACPI.
I hope this is not an Asus motherboard?
I am not sure what it is. The box is a HP Pavilion 9695C. The closest
I can get to a specification for the motherboard is:
Read - lowend name brand consumer desktop - just the *wrong* type of
computer to try to run linux on as stated before.
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Yes I am pathetic. I resurrect these things and put them to good use.
Afterall, one can't put XP on this thing. |
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chuck@nil.car
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 100
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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Philip <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:vRBrg.552$2v.490@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
| Quote: | Read - lowend name brand consumer desktop - just the *wrong* type of
computer to try to run linux on as stated before.
Yes I am pathetic. I resurrect these things and put them to good use.
Afterall, one can't put XP on this thing.
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Didn't say that. Only meant to reassert that such systems come with
their own proprietary hardware that quite often just won't work in
linux.
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Vladimir Florinski
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 49
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:44 am Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:37:08 +0000, Philip wrote:
| Quote: | How do I find out what in the kernel-2.6.17-1.2139_FC4 is disabling acpi?
Thanks for the hints so far.
Just updated to 2.6.17-1.2141_FC4 and it is also disabling acpi.
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Try to flash the BIOS to the latest version. This is the only thing you
can do, but it can help if the original BIOS code is buggy. Asus is
particularly bad in this respect, so their motherboards should be avoided.
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joseph2k
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 01 Jul 2006
Posts: 19
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:29 am Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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Philip wrote:
| Quote: | chuckcar wrote:
Philip <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:s%vrg.60702$Lm5.34098@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
Vladimir Florinski wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:30:24 +0000, Philip wrote:
I finally upgraded my RH9 to FC4 and was happy to see ACPI actually
power off my machine when I did a shut down.
Well that was yesterday. Today no such thing. I have been tweaking
things to get things back to my comfort zone, but only with
applications. What did I do?
Obviously, you upgraded the kernel. The ACPI version is different in
the two logs.
duh..yum did it. When I boot on the 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 kernel acpi
comes up.
There is nothing in the grub menu.lst to turn of acpi. Also the spec
sheet says the motherboard supports ACPI.
I hope this is not an Asus motherboard?
I am not sure what it is. The box is a HP Pavilion 9695C. The closest
I can get to a specification for the motherboard is:
Read - lowend name brand consumer desktop - just the *wrong* type of
computer to try to run linux on as stated before.
Yes I am pathetic. I resurrect these things and put them to good use.
Afterall, one can't put XP on this thing.
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Hmmm. I thought that you could run XP all the way down to socket 370
MOBO's. Irongates should run ok, albeit slowly. Must support 256 MB ram.
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joseph2k
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:33 am Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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chuckcar wrote:
| Quote: | Philip <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:vRBrg.552$2v.490@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
Read - lowend name brand consumer desktop - just the *wrong* type of
computer to try to run linux on as stated before.
Yes I am pathetic. I resurrect these things and put them to good use.
Afterall, one can't put XP on this thing.
Didn't say that. Only meant to reassert that such systems come with
their own proprietary hardware that quite often just won't work in
linux.
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Yes, and Irongate systems will run Linux, i know i have one. Old is not
necessarily low price / low end.
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JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.
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Philip
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Posts: 55
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject:
Re: FC4 acpi stopped working, what did i do?
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Lenard wrote:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
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How do I find out what in the kernel-2.6.17-1.2139_FC4 is disabling acpi?
Thanks for the hints so far.
Just updated to 2.6.17-1.2141_FC4 and it is also disabling acpi.
Which is one of the many reasons I no longer use Fedora/Red Hat supplied
kernels. A quick edit may fix your problem;
A sample grub kernel line entry that you can try;
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.17-1.2141_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb acpi=on apm=off
Notice the apci and apm portions. As a suggestion copy the current entry for
the new kernel and change the name slightly and apply the changes as per
the example.
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acpi=on did not work. However, after several days of poking around doing
before and after compares I found something that works.
I added an acpi=force kernel parameter. ACPI loaded and shutdown now
powers off the box.
Yeah!
I spotted the work-around in another thread where it is used to get
around the ACPI BIOS age cutoff.
Not sure what happen after 2.6.11, though.
Your hint helped. |
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chuckcar
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Joined: 22 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject:
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joseph2k <cooltechblue@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:cSLrg.62831$fb2.19327@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:
| Quote: | chuckcar wrote:
Didn't say that. Only meant to reassert that such systems come with
their own proprietary hardware that quite often just won't work in
linux.
Yes, and Irongate systems will run Linux, i know i have one. Old is
not necessarily low price / low end.
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This was a Dell Dimension desktop.
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chuck@nil.car
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Posts: 100
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:51 am Post subject:
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chuckcar <chuckcar@nil.org> wrote in
news:Xns97FACA292B565chuckcar@81.174.50.80:
| Quote: | joseph2k <cooltechblue@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:cSLrg.62831$fb2.19327@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:
chuckcar wrote:
Didn't say that. Only meant to reassert that such systems come with
their own proprietary hardware that quite often just won't work in
linux.
Yes, and Irongate systems will run Linux, i know i have one. Old is
not necessarily low price / low end.
This was a Dell Dimension desktop.
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Sorry my foul-up - HP Pavillion (the only real difference is where the
headquarters are anyways 
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chuck@nil.car
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:52 am Post subject:
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joseph2k <cooltechblue@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:tOLrg.62830$fb2.36261@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:
| Quote: | Philip wrote:
chuckcar wrote:
Philip <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:s%vrg.60702$Lm5.34098@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
Vladimir Florinski wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:30:24 +0000, Philip wrote:
I finally upgraded my RH9 to FC4 and was happy to see ACPI
actually power off my machine when I did a shut down.
Well that was yesterday. Today no such thing. I have been tweaking
things to get things back to my comfort zone, but only with
applications. What did I do?
Obviously, you upgraded the kernel. The ACPI version is different
in the two logs.
duh..yum did it. When I boot on the 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 kernel acpi
comes up.
There is nothing in the grub menu.lst to turn of acpi. Also the
spec sheet says the motherboard supports ACPI.
I hope this is not an Asus motherboard?
I am not sure what it is. The box is a HP Pavilion 9695C. The
closest I can get to a specification for the motherboard is:
Read - lowend name brand consumer desktop - just the *wrong* type of
computer to try to run linux on as stated before.
Yes I am pathetic. I resurrect these things and put them to good use.
Afterall, one can't put XP on this thing.
Hmmm. I thought that you could run XP all the way down to socket 370
MOBO's. Irongates should run ok, albeit slowly. Must support 256 MB
ram.
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Try putting XP on a 486 machine sometime - not going to happen. 98SE
runs on a 486 though - *real* slowly
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joseph2k
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:26 am Post subject:
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chuckcar wrote:
| Quote: | chuckcar <chuckcar@nil.org> wrote in
news:Xns97FACA292B565chuckcar@81.174.50.80:
joseph2k <cooltechblue@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:cSLrg.62831$fb2.19327@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:
chuckcar wrote:
Didn't say that. Only meant to reassert that such systems come with
their own proprietary hardware that quite often just won't work in
linux.
Yes, and Irongate systems will run Linux, i know i have one. Old is
not necessarily low price / low end.
This was a Dell Dimension desktop.
Sorry my foul-up - HP Pavillion (the only real difference is where the
headquarters are anyways ;-)
Gee, i thought that it was HP and Compaq that merged. Maybe i have misread |
the press.
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JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.
--Schiller |
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