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Aragorn
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Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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On Monday 03 July 2006 22:12, gian3000it@yahoo.it stood up and spoke the
following words to the masses in /comp.os.linux.misc...:/
| Quote: | Is there a program that allows you to view whatever messages are
stored on your pop3 server and make it possible for you to delete
them on the server *before* downloading them to your PC, if you
choose so, that also does SSL and possibly smtp?
Popcorn does all that splendidly under MS Windows. So far, the
only client for Linux that I have come across that comes close is
KShowmail, however, it does not support SSL or other types of
secured connections, and does not do smtp, is much larger in
size than popcorn and with many less features...
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Not an exact match for what you're describing, but /KMail/ can delete
mail on the POP3 server without downloading it, via a set of POP
filters that you can set up. It also does support SSL.
Hope this was useful... ;-)
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With kind regards,
*Aragorn*
(Registered GNU/Linux user #223157) |
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jmatt@webace.com.au
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Mark Marsh
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:12:38 -0700, gian3000it wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a program that allows you to view whatever messages are
stored on your pop3 server and make it possible for you to delete
them on the server *before* downloading them to your PC, if you
choose so, that also does SSL and possibly smtp?
Popcorn does all that splendidly under MS Windows. So far, the
only client for Linux that I have come across that comes close is
KShowmail, however, it does not support SSL or other types of
secured connections, and does not do smtp, is much larger in
size than popcorn and with many less features...
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Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine. |
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never-aways
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 594
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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"Mark Marsh" <unknown@unknown.com> wrote in message
news:44ab02ab$0$1233$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
| Quote: | On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:12:38 -0700, gian3000it wrote:
Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine.
When I run Popcorn under WINE, it has a bug where if you delete one email, |
it deletes them all! My WINE install is pretty old though. YMMV.
Louis |
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gian3000it@yahoo.it
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Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:46 am Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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jmatt@webace.com.au wrote:
Unfortunately they offer only a Microsoft Windows version.
This one is specific to Yahoo! email accounts (I don't have one...)
This one is a console email retrieval program, similar to fetchmail
(but simpler).
I've used it for some time now, but it has nothing to do with what we
are talking about here.
Similar to the previous one, it allows you to set filters for
downloading.
But again, it has nothing to do with with type of GUI programs like
popcorn that we are discussing here.
| Quote: | I use Windows & used to do it your way, until I got an email client
that has an option to delete the unwanted mail off the server.
Unfortunatly no Linux version.
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That doesn't really help either...
As I said before, I've used kmail for a long time, but it just allows
you
to set filters, but not to view a list of what's on the server and
delete
beforehand what you don't care to download.
Unfortunately, they don't. Sorry. But thanks for the effort. |
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gian3000it@yahoo.it
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Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:52 am Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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Mark Marsh wrote:
| Quote: | Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine.
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Others have pointed out that popcorn works fine with Wine. But
does it make sense to install Wine (I have no idea how much
space that would take, but my guest is that it would be a lot...)
just to support a 200KB program? (that's popcorn - so small and
yet so featureful and useful...)
I really wish there could be something like that for Linux... Is it
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gian3000it@yahoo.it
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:55 am Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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3c273 wrote:
| Quote: | When I run Popcorn under WINE, it has a bug where if you delete one email,
it deletes them all! My WINE install is pretty old though. YMMV.
Louis
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How much hd space does it take for Wine, and is it does it waste a lot
of resources (CPU/RAM)? |
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never-aways
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 594
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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I'm not sure about the space, the download is less than 10 MB. As for
resources, it doesn't waste any resources because if I want to run Windows
programs under Linux, then that's what I need to do it  It runs fine on
a P3 500/384.
Louis
<gian3000it@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:1152161742.145077.247370@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | 3c273 wrote:
When I run Popcorn under WINE, it has a bug where if you delete one
email,
it deletes them all! My WINE install is pretty old though. YMMV.
Louis
How much hd space does it take for Wine, and is it does it waste a lot
of resources (CPU/RAM)?
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gian3000it@yahoo.it
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:39 am Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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3c273 wrote:
| Quote: | I'm not sure about the space, the download is less than 10 MB. As for
resources, it doesn't waste any resources because if I want to run Windows
programs under Linux, then that's what I need to do it It runs fine on
a P3 500/384.
Louis
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I have a spare machine (P3 800/256) that I use to play around with
stuff... So I downloaded the latest wine (ver. 0.9.16) and, yes, it
was about 10MB. When installed, it amounts to 49MB of used-up
disk space! By the way, I tried it out with the latest released
popcorn (ver. 1.74 - the last before, unfortunately, development
on it was discontinued in 2005) and popcorn works just great
with wine!!!
However, what needs to be said is that popcorn is a an amazingly
small program considered all that it does - about 125KB in size -
and it absolutely makes no sense to me to install wine at almost
50MB just to support an 125KB executable... That, in fact, would
be the only use I'd have for it, since I do not need any other
programs that are windoze based. So, wine goes out and I'll keep
using windows (dual-booting win98 on my PC) to use popcorn to
take care of the bulk of my less frequently used email accounts.
I find it amazing, though, that no one has come up with such an
application for linux, as this little program (popcorn) is absolutely
useful, and wonderful, for those with pop mail accounts. If I were
a programmer, that would be my next project.
Should anyone know of such a program for linux, please post it
here or, should too long a time have elapsed making it impossible
to reply to this thread, please start a new one under the same
topic and post it. I'll be on the lookout for it...
Thanks,
Gianni |
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Chris Cole
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 11 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:12 am Post subject:
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gian3000it@yahoo.it wrote:
[ follow-up set to colm as can't access alt.* ]
| Quote: | 3c273 wrote:
I'm not sure about the space, the download is less than 10 MB. As for
resources, it doesn't waste any resources because if I want to run
Windows
programs under Linux, then that's what I need to do it It runs
fine on a P3 500/384.
Louis
I have a spare machine (P3 800/256) that I use to play around with
stuff... So I downloaded the latest wine (ver. 0.9.16) and, yes, it
was about 10MB. When installed, it amounts to 49MB of used-up
disk space! By the way, I tried it out with the latest released
popcorn (ver. 1.74 - the last before, unfortunately, development
on it was discontinued in 2005) and popcorn works just great
with wine!!!
However, what needs to be said is that popcorn is a an amazingly
small program considered all that it does - about 125KB in size -
and it absolutely makes no sense to me to install wine at almost
50MB just to support an 125KB executable... That, in fact, would
be the only use I'd have for it, since I do not need any other
programs that are windoze based. So, wine goes out and I'll keep
using windows (dual-booting win98 on my PC) to use popcorn to
take care of the bulk of my less frequently used email accounts.
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Eh!? You complain about loading 50megs worth of software to run popcorn
under linux, but yet you're happy to keep several hundreds of MB (eg
Win98) on your HD to use popcorn. Plus you have the inconvenience of
having to reboot just to check you email. That sounds daft to me. |
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rich
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 07 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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Rich_on 5-Jul-2006, "Mark Marsh" <unknown@unknown.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a program that allows you to view whatever messages are
stored on your pop3 server and make it possible for you to delete
them on the server *before* downloading them to your PC, if you
choose so, that also does SSL and possibly smtp?
Popcorn does all that splendidly under MS Windows. So far, the
only client for Linux that I have come across that comes close is
KShowmail, however, it does not support SSL or other types of
secured connections, and does not do smtp, is much larger in
size than popcorn and with many less features...
Popcorn should work quite well with Wine (haven't tested it though)
POPTray will also work with Wine.
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Interested in this so I tried Popcorn, launched with wine (Mepis 6
installation)
and it works ok but a search through the package manager came up with Korn.
Sits in the tray, displays the number of emails on the server, displays the
headers and on the quick test I have just given it deletes whatever you
want.
So, if you are using a Debian linux +kde Korn is worth a look
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/korn
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gian3000it@yahoo.it
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Posts: 25
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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rich wrote:
| Quote: | a search through the package manager came up with Korn.
Sits in the tray, displays the number of emails on the server, displays the
headers and on the quick test I have just given it deletes whatever you
want.
So, if you are using a Debian linux +kde Korn is worth a look
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I'm using slackware... I've looked at the korn documentation both
at kde.org and elsewhere and korn is described as an email checker
and nowhere does it say that it can delete mail from the server
before downloading the messages (except, perhaps, by setting up
filters?)
Unfortunately, it's not available singly but only as part of the kdepim
package (12+MB just for the sources...)
Could you describe how you were able to delete unwanted messages
from the server with korn? Does it list messages that are on the
server,
message sizes, subjects, whom from, etc. and then allow you to select
which ones to delete after looking at them (or is this done through
filters you can set up)?
Thanks,
Gianni |
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never-aways
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 594
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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Disk space is somewhere around $.50/GB(US). What exactly are you saving that
precious nickel's worth of disk space for anyway?
Louis
<gian3000it@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:1152236384.643855.152460@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | 3c273 wrote:
I'm not sure about the space, the download is less than 10 MB. As for
resources, it doesn't waste any resources because if I want to run
Windows
programs under Linux, then that's what I need to do it It runs fine
on
a P3 500/384.
Louis
I have a spare machine (P3 800/256) that I use to play around with
stuff... So I downloaded the latest wine (ver. 0.9.16) and, yes, it
was about 10MB. When installed, it amounts to 49MB of used-up
disk space! By the way, I tried it out with the latest released
popcorn (ver. 1.74 - the last before, unfortunately, development
on it was discontinued in 2005) and popcorn works just great
with wine!!!
However, what needs to be said is that popcorn is a an amazingly
small program considered all that it does - about 125KB in size -
and it absolutely makes no sense to me to install wine at almost
50MB just to support an 125KB executable... That, in fact, would
be the only use I'd have for it, since I do not need any other
programs that are windoze based. So, wine goes out and I'll keep
using windows (dual-booting win98 on my PC) to use popcorn to
take care of the bulk of my less frequently used email accounts.
I find it amazing, though, that no one has come up with such an
application for linux, as this little program (popcorn) is absolutely
useful, and wonderful, for those with pop mail accounts. If I were
a programmer, that would be my next project.
Should anyone know of such a program for linux, please post it
here or, should too long a time have elapsed making it impossible
to reply to this thread, please start a new one under the same
topic and post it. I'll be on the lookout for it...
Thanks,
Gianni
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Dave Gibson
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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[Followup-To set to colm]
gian3000it@yahoo.it <gian3000it@yahoo.it> wrote:
[interactive program to delete mail on the server]
| Quote: | Should anyone know of such a program for linux, please post it
here or, should too long a time have elapsed making it impossible
to reply to this thread, please start a new one under the same
topic and post it. I'll be on the lookout for it...
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http://freshmeat.net/projects/poppy/ |
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Michael Black
*nix forums addict
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject:
Re: popcorn-like email client for Linux?
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"3c273" (nospam@nospam.com) writes:
| Quote: | Disk space is somewhere around $.50/GB(US). What exactly are you saving that
precious nickel's worth of disk space for anyway?
Louis
The issue seems to be the original poster likes a given program. The |
exact size doesn't seem to be as important as that it's not too big.
And then, he seems to be stuck on finding a Linux program that
fits whatever he specifically likes about that Windows program.
Obviously, if the program is so unique, then running Wine to run
the program makes sense. But given that it's not likely to be
truly unique, there must be linux programs that do the same
basic thing, taking up more space but not as much as Wine.
Michael
| Quote: | gian3000it@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:1152236384.643855.152460@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
3c273 wrote:
I'm not sure about the space, the download is less than 10 MB. As for
resources, it doesn't waste any resources because if I want to run
Windows
programs under Linux, then that's what I need to do it It runs fine
on
a P3 500/384.
Louis
I have a spare machine (P3 800/256) that I use to play around with
stuff... So I downloaded the latest wine (ver. 0.9.16) and, yes, it
was about 10MB. When installed, it amounts to 49MB of used-up
disk space! By the way, I tried it out with the latest released
popcorn (ver. 1.74 - the last before, unfortunately, development
on it was discontinued in 2005) and popcorn works just great
with wine!!!
However, what needs to be said is that popcorn is a an amazingly
small program considered all that it does - about 125KB in size -
and it absolutely makes no sense to me to install wine at almost
50MB just to support an 125KB executable... That, in fact, would
be the only use I'd have for it, since I do not need any other
programs that are windoze based. So, wine goes out and I'll keep
using windows (dual-booting win98 on my PC) to use popcorn to
take care of the bulk of my less frequently used email accounts.
I find it amazing, though, that no one has come up with such an
application for linux, as this little program (popcorn) is absolutely
useful, and wonderful, for those with pop mail accounts. If I were
a programmer, that would be my next project.
Should anyone know of such a program for linux, please post it
here or, should too long a time have elapsed making it impossible
to reply to this thread, please start a new one under the same
topic and post it. I'll be on the lookout for it...
Thanks,
Gianni
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