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base60
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Joined: 07 Sep 2005
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 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Mksysb image question
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scott_doyland@johnlewis.co.uk wrote:
| Quote: | Mag wrote:
Well said! :-)
I am somewhat more confident about my TSM server than these AIX mksysbs
thats all I was going at. I though I could avoid the office politics
talk, but even on usenet it comes and haunts me!
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We use Storix http://www.storix.com and write the system backups it
creates to TSM. Works fine and I have sued it to restore a few times.
Only problem is that sometimes its difficult to get Storix to netboot a
server, although this normally seems to be if you have a weird network
setup, eg a firewall between servers you are booting from and
installing to.
So in a restore situation we sometimes have had to mess with teh
network a bit. Nothing major though.%
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Storix is essentially sysback from a company other than IBM.
Sysback is cheap, IBM supports it and you don't have to worry
about a finger-pointing issue. |
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shineboy
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 18 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject:
Re: Mksysb image question
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Mag wrote:
| Quote: | I am a little worried that my tapes won't restore in a DR env. I am
thinking of creating a mksysb file and FTPing it into another server
(which is being backed up by TSM). How reliable is this method? I was
thinking of plaing the mksysb image in a NIM server. Does this work?
Any idea? I want to avoid using a tape/CD much as possible!
TIA
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Use NIM. We back up over 200 servers using mksysbs on NIM without
issue. We keep 2 copies on separate disk systems and backup 2x per
month. We do not mksysb to tape at all. Plus, it simplifies your
system install efforts greatly. |
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Scott Doyland
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Mar 2005
Posts: 40
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Mksysb image question
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Mag wrote:
| Quote: | Well said! :-)
I am somewhat more confident about my TSM server than these AIX mksysbs
thats all I was going at. I though I could avoid the office politics
talk, but even on usenet it comes and haunts me!
base60 wrote:
Mag wrote:
Actually,
FWIW: top-posting is considered "bad".
I am not too confident about the tapes/drives at my site.
Then why would you be confident about the tapes that are used to
back up the TSM?
And this
isn't really for a DR excersise. I just want to ability of me not using
tapes (because I am not 100% sure if they are even being sent offsite).
OK... is that your responsibility, did you ask and, if they aren't, is
it difficult to have the tapes in question added to the off-site tape
vault?
I know for a fact, if I backup the system, and create a mksyb image and
have TSM pick up the backup, those tapes indeed are being sent offsite.
Thats why I want to use the TSM way...
suggestions?
If this isn't something in your paygrade, boot it to mgmt and keep a
copy of the email expressing concern.
This is a political issue and not a technical one.
That said, I'd make as many backups as I could etc. within the
policy constraints of your location.
But make mgmt responsible for the issue.
They're paid to make decision.s Don't be a fallguy for some
gutless putz in mgmt.
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We use Storix http://www.storix.com and write the system backups it
creates to TSM. Works fine and I have sued it to restore a few times.
Only problem is that sometimes its difficult to get Storix to netboot a
server, although this normally seems to be if you have a weird network
setup, eg a firewall between servers you are booting from and
installing to.
So in a restore situation we sometimes have had to mess with teh
network a bit. Nothing major though.% |
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Mag Gam
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Posts: 41
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject:
Re: Mksysb image question
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Well said! :-)
I am somewhat more confident about my TSM server than these AIX mksysbs
thats all I was going at. I though I could avoid the office politics
talk, but even on usenet it comes and haunts me!
base60 wrote:
| Quote: | Mag wrote:
Actually,
FWIW: top-posting is considered "bad".
I am not too confident about the tapes/drives at my site.
Then why would you be confident about the tapes that are used to
back up the TSM?
And this
isn't really for a DR excersise. I just want to ability of me not using
tapes (because I am not 100% sure if they are even being sent offsite).
OK... is that your responsibility, did you ask and, if they aren't, is
it difficult to have the tapes in question added to the off-site tape
vault?
I know for a fact, if I backup the system, and create a mksyb image and
have TSM pick up the backup, those tapes indeed are being sent offsite.
Thats why I want to use the TSM way...
suggestions?
If this isn't something in your paygrade, boot it to mgmt and keep a
copy of the email expressing concern.
This is a political issue and not a technical one.
That said, I'd make as many backups as I could etc. within the
policy constraints of your location.
But make mgmt responsible for the issue.
They're paid to make decision.s Don't be a fallguy for some
gutless putz in mgmt. |
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base60
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 07 Sep 2005
Posts: 322
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:20 am Post subject:
Re: Mksysb image question
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Mag wrote:
FWIW: top-posting is considered "bad".
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I am not too confident about the tapes/drives at my site.
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Then why would you be confident about the tapes that are used to
back up the TSM?
| Quote: | And this
isn't really for a DR excersise. I just want to ability of me not using
tapes (because I am not 100% sure if they are even being sent offsite).
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OK... is that your responsibility, did you ask and, if they aren't, is
it difficult to have the tapes in question added to the off-site tape
vault?
| Quote: | I know for a fact, if I backup the system, and create a mksyb image and
have TSM pick up the backup, those tapes indeed are being sent offsite.
Thats why I want to use the TSM way...
suggestions?
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If this isn't something in your paygrade, boot it to mgmt and keep a
copy of the email expressing concern.
This is a political issue and not a technical one.
That said, I'd make as many backups as I could etc. within the
policy constraints of your location.
But make mgmt responsible for the issue.
They're paid to make decision.s Don't be a fallguy for some
gutless putz in mgmt. |
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Mag Gam
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Posts: 41
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:51 am Post subject:
Re: Mksysb image question
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Actually,
I am not too confident about the tapes/drives at my site. And this
isn't really for a DR excersise. I just want to ability of me not using
tapes (because I am not 100% sure if they are even being sent offsite).
I know for a fact, if I backup the system, and create a mksyb image and
have TSM pick up the backup, those tapes indeed are being sent offsite.
Thats why I want to use the TSM way...
suggestions?
base60 wrote:
| Quote: | Mag wrote:
I am a little worried that my tapes won't restore in a DR env.
Why? Bad tapes?
I am
thinking of creating a mksysb file and FTPing it into another server
(which is being backed up by TSM). How reliable is this method?
Rhetorical question: have you looked at what's on a mksysb tape?
Why don't you just get a copy of sysback or whatever it's named now
that it's "part" of Tivoli and do this directly?
I was
thinking of plaing the mksysb image in a NIM server. Does this work?
Any idea? I want to avoid using a tape/CD much as possible!
During a DR, tape is your friend.
When you find the network misconfigured, overloaded, etc., tape
is reliable and predictable.
You can never have too many tapes :)
Take a complete media set, including MLs, on CD, also. |
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base60
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 07 Sep 2005
Posts: 322
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Mksysb image question
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Mag wrote:
| Quote: | I am a little worried that my tapes won't restore in a DR env.
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Why? Bad tapes?
| Quote: | I am
thinking of creating a mksysb file and FTPing it into another server
(which is being backed up by TSM). How reliable is this method?
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Rhetorical question: have you looked at what's on a mksysb tape?
Why don't you just get a copy of sysback or whatever it's named now
that it's "part" of Tivoli and do this directly?
| Quote: | I was
thinking of plaing the mksysb image in a NIM server. Does this work?
Any idea? I want to avoid using a tape/CD much as possible!
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During a DR, tape is your friend.
When you find the network misconfigured, overloaded, etc., tape
is reliable and predictable.
You can never have too many tapes :)
Take a complete media set, including MLs, on CD, also. |
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Mag Gam
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Posts: 41
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject:
Mksysb image question
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I am a little worried that my tapes won't restore in a DR env. I am
thinking of creating a mksysb file and FTPing it into another server
(which is being backed up by TSM). How reliable is this method? I was
thinking of plaing the mksysb image in a NIM server. Does this work?
Any idea? I want to avoid using a tape/CD much as possible!
TIA |
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