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Rick Jones
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 Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject:
Re: DHCP not working on clean install?
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| Quote: | CDE was designed in the time people did not use DHCP at all. KDE and
Gnome are from a new era.
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Lets not necessarily start to mix the CDE startup problems with DHCP.
I think that the CDE startup problem was only a symptom, so
concentrating on why the router didn't like the UX systems DHCP
requests would be the way to start.
rick jones
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Rick Jones
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject:
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Henrik Goldman <henrik_goldman@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
| Quote: | Does your standard adsl router setup have a way to trace the DHCP
requests being sent by the zx2000 and/or logging that might show what
if anything the DHCP server did not like about the DHCP request(s)?
Unfortunatly not. It's a cheap netgear router which is has almost no
capabilities. However the same router has no problems with any other
connected host (AIX, Windows, MacOSX and linux).
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How does it go in the mutual fund world? Past performance is no
guarantee of future results :)
To track-down the DHCP problem it is necessary to get a packet
trace. If you can take one of those AIX, Windows, MacOSX or Linux
systems and a _hub_, connect that system and your zx2000 to the hub
and then the hub to the router/firewall/nat/switch-called-router and
take a tcpdump trace...
| Quote: | Make sure that the system can resolve its hostname to an IP and IP
back to its own hostname. That may require some fiddling with
/etc/nsswitch.conf to make it look in /etc/hosts first before trying
DNS.
Yes. After copying /etc/nsswitch.files into /etc/nsswitch.conf things
started working.
It just strikes me why an OS comes in a broken state without no default
setup?
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I suspect it relates to however you got-out of the problems with DHCP.
If a full /sbin/set_parms initial didn't really happen, knuth only
knows what wasn't setup properly.
Whenever I've done an install, I've always Ctrl-C'd out of DHCP as
I've not had DHCP servers present - I've given the IP info statically
to the installer and been fine and dandy.
rick jones
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Henrik Goldman
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Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject:
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Have you ever tried a Sun/Sparc with Solaris and CDE running DHCP? If that
works, you are allowed to say whether HP-UX is doing something
non-standard. SUN/Sparc running Solaris was the CDE standard.
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Yes it works on Solaris. I have a Sol8 and Sol10 machine running on Ultra5
and Sun Blade 100 and I don't recall *any* problems at all when setting up
network. On Solaris 8 there were missing entries in /etc/resolv.conf but as
far as I recall Solaris 10 worked right out of the box.
I set up both of them around 2 months ago.
-- Henrik |
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jgk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:
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Henrik Goldman wrote:
| Quote: | As a test I tried to install Linux for IA64 on the machine and debian had no
problems with dhcp at all. Everything worked flawlessly and I got network
setup without entering anything.
It seems as HP-UX is doing something non-standard and is therefore failing.
-- Henrik
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CDE was designed in the time people did not use DHCP at all. KDE and
Gnome are from a new era.
Have you ever tried a Sun/Sparc with Solaris and CDE running DHCP? If
that works, you are allowed to say whether HP-UX is doing something
non-standard. SUN/Sparc running Solaris was the CDE standard.
Kind regards,
Jan Gerrit Kootstra |
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Henrik Goldman
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:31 am Post subject:
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As a test I tried to install Linux for IA64 on the machine and debian had no
problems with dhcp at all. Everything worked flawlessly and I got network
setup without entering anything.
It seems as HP-UX is doing something non-standard and is therefore failing.
-- Henrik |
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Henrik Goldman
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:15 am Post subject:
Re: DHCP not working on clean install?
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| Quote: | Does your standard adsl router setup have a way to trace the DHCP
requests being sent by the zx2000 and/or logging that might show what
if anything the DHCP server did not like about the DHCP request(s)?
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Unfortunatly not. It's a cheap netgear router which is has almost no
capabilities. However the same router has no problems with any other
connected host (AIX, Windows, MacOSX and linux).
| Quote: | Make sure that the system can resolve its hostname to an IP and IP
back to its own hostname. That may require some fiddling with
/etc/nsswitch.conf to make it look in /etc/hosts first before trying
DNS.
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Yes. After copying /etc/nsswitch.files into /etc/nsswitch.conf things
started working.
It just strikes me why an OS comes in a broken state without no default
setup?
Thanks.
-- Henrik |
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Rick Jones
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Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 492
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject:
Re: DHCP not working on clean install?
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Henrik Goldman <henrik_goldman@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
| Quote: | I just got myself a zx2000 running IA64 and wanted to install 11i
11.23 Dec 2005. However to start with I ran into an issue about the
DHCP client not able to fetch information from gateway. I just have
a standard adsl router setup and no matter what I do I cannot get
the dhcp client to find anything during installation. In the end I
tried to set the values manually and after installation I can login
to a fail-safe shell and see that networking is working as it
should.
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Does your standard adsl router setup have a way to trace the DHCP
requests being sent by the zx2000 and/or logging that might show what
if anything the DHCP server did not like about the DHCP request(s)?
| Quote: | However I'm not able to login to CDE since the system said that the "desktop
messaging system" couldn't be started.
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Make sure that the system can resolve its hostname to an IP and IP
back to its own hostname. That may require some fiddling with
/etc/nsswitch.conf to make it look in /etc/hosts first before trying
DNS.
rick jones
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Henrik Goldman
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Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
I just got myself a zx2000 running IA64 and wanted to install 11i 11.23 Dec
2005. However to start with I ran into an issue about the DHCP client not
able to fetch information from gateway.
I just have a standard adsl router setup and no matter what I do I cannot
get the dhcp client to find anything during installation.
In the end I tried to set the values manually and after installation I can
login to a fail-safe shell and see that networking is working as it should.
However I'm not able to login to CDE since the system said that the "desktop
messaging system" couldn't be started.
This is just a plain install with no special features selected. However it's
really odd that first time after boot it says the system is malfunctioning.
What am I missing here?
Thanks in advance.
-- Henrik |
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