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Nico Golde
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 Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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Hi,
* Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net> [2006-05-30 22:19]:
| Quote: | [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images:
* the small one which contains only packages of standard priority,
* and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common
desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde, xfce).
Now, we would like to create a decent package selection which reflects,
as well as possible, the users' desires. There should be one package
selection for a 700MB CD-ROM, and one for a 4.5GB DVD-ROM. With the
current squashfs compression, the actual filesystem size is about 3
times bigger than the packed one. This means that there can be quite a
few packages on it  I'm open for your suggestions...
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Would be useful if you could provide the package lists for
the two images so we can see whats already included and send
you patches.
Regards Nico
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Michael Fisher
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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Is it posible to have a minimum size image with a WM that can stay
below 125MB? This would be a great size for USB versions and versions
running under Qemu or VMWare. Just a thought.
desNotes
On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net> wrote:
| Quote: | [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
Hi all,
at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images:
* the small one which contains only packages of standard priority,
* and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common
desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde, xfce).
Now, we would like to create a decent package selection which reflects,
as well as possible, the users' desires. There should be one package
selection for a 700MB CD-ROM, and one for a 4.5GB DVD-ROM. With the
current squashfs compression, the actual filesystem size is about 3
times bigger than the packed one. This means that there can be quite a
few packages on it I'm open for your suggestions...
Regards,
Daniel
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Török Edvin
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net> wrote:
| Quote: | [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
Hi all,
at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images:
* the small one which contains only packages of standard priority,
* and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common
desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde, xfce).
Now, we would like to create a decent package selection which reflects,
as well as possible, the users' desires. There should be one package
selection for a 700MB CD-ROM, and one for a 4.5GB DVD-ROM. With the
current squashfs compression, the actual filesystem size is about 3
times bigger than the packed one. This means that there can be quite a
few packages on it I'm open for your suggestions...
What I'd need on a Live CD-ROM: |
* rescue tools:
- parted
- fdisk
- mkfs.*
- grub
- lvm management tools
* 386 and amd64 kernels on same cdrom (so that I can chroot into
pure64 installations)
* text editor:
my favourites: vim, jed. (please no flames on this)
* compiler with at least libc-dev, libstdc++-dev
* it should be possible to debootstrap from CD
* networking:
dhcp, rp-pppoe , (nfs,....)
* mc would be nice to have
* if it fits a minimalistic xorg with fluxbox, and gs/ghostview
...... this is just a quick list I've come up with, I'm sure there is
plenty more that would be needed.
of course on the dvd I'd like to see openoffice.
Which packages of the above are currently on the live CD?
Regards,
Edwin
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Daniel Baumann
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Joined: 24 Mar 2005
Posts: 46
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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Michael Fisher wrote:
| Quote: | Is it posible to have a minimum size image with a WM that can stay
below 125MB? This would be a great size for USB versions and versions
running under Qemu or VMWare. Just a thought.
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Yes, but those mini-images are separate thing we do anyway (or provide
an easy possiblity to create them yourself). Now we would like to fill a
700MB CD resp. a 4.5GB DVD with all the packages people may would like
to see on it.
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Daniel Baumann
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Joined: 24 Mar 2005
Posts: 46
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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Nico Golde wrote:
| Quote: | Would be useful if you could provide the package lists for
the two images so we can see whats already included and send
you patches.
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The small one contains the standard system only, means, packages which
have Priority: standard and nothing more. That's about 80MB (the image
size).
The other ones do contains:
kde:
kde kdm x-window-system-core
gnome:
gnome-desktop-environment gdm-themes gnome-cups-manager
gnome-themes-extras rhythmbox synaptic gnome-screensaver gdm
x-window-system-core
xfce:
xfce4 gdm x-window-system-core
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Daniel Baumann
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Joined: 24 Mar 2005
Posts: 46
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Package Selection for Debian Live
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Eric Cooper wrote:
| Quote: | I suggest that you provide the same packages that Knoppix does (as long
as they're free), since Knoppix has been out there with a real user
community for several years now. No need to reinvent the wheel.
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True, but knoppix is i386/amd64 only. Debian Live works on i386/amd64
too, but at least on sparc and powerpc too. So I hope to get feedback
from all non-intel/non-amd users.
Currently, the images are not autobuilded for that archs. The buildds
used for powerpc and sparc in Debian are either machines and/or
configurations, which do not support building packages for sparc64 resp.
powerpc64 (it does work here on my local machines, which are capable of
building the 64 bit packages).
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Pedro Macanas
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Joined: 31 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:00 am Post subject:
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Baumann" <daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net>
To: <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Cc: <live@lists.debian-unofficial.org>; <debian-edu@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: Package Selection for Debian Live
| Quote: | [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
Hi all,
at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images:
* the small one which contains only packages of standard priority,
* and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common
desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde,
xfce).
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There is no XFCE version (see http://live.debian.net/wiki/Download ).
Previously there was a XFCE version.
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Now, we would like to create a decent package selection which reflects, as
well as possible, the users' desires. There should be one package
selection for a 700MB CD-ROM, and one for a 4.5GB DVD-ROM.
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I would create a 50 Mb version (lightweight version), to be installed in USB
keydrives (in a similar way to Damn Small Linux). The user could select
between different window managers.
| Quote: | With the
current squashfs compression, the actual filesystem size is about 3
times bigger than the packed one. This means that there can be quite a
few packages on it I'm open for your suggestions...
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The suggested window manager selector in a X environment.
Regards.
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Daniel Baumann
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Mirco Bauer
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:00 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 21:51 +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
| Quote: | [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
* and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common
desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde, xfce).
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I would like to see mono + mono apps (banshee, beagle, f-spot, blam,
monodevelop, etc) on the gnome version.
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Margarita Manterola
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Joined: 04 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject:
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On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net> wrote:
| Quote: | gnome:
gnome-desktop-environment gdm-themes gnome-cups-manager
gnome-themes-extras rhythmbox synaptic gnome-screensaver gdm
x-window-system-core
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I would like:
gnome-fifth-toe firefox xchat gnome-devel meld
And some (less important to me) suggestions:
dia gkrellm xvncviewer darcs
If there's a wiki-page or similar thing with the complete list of
packages (and the amount of free-space), that would be interesting to
have in order to make more suggestions.
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Daniel Baumann
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject:
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Margarita Manterola wrote:
| Quote: | If there's a wiki-page or similar thing with the complete list of
packages (and the amount of free-space), that would be interesting to
have in order to make more suggestions.
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will do that, i first thought it would be a good idea to put it into a
wiki. i'll prepare a more or less complete list in a few days, sorted by
section or something similar, and then ask for comments again.
nevertheless, thanks for your answer
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Goswin von Brederlow
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:00 am Post subject:
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Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net> writes:
| Quote: | [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
Hi all,
at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images:
* the small one which contains only packages of standard priority,
* and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common
desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde, xfce).
Now, we would like to create a decent package selection which reflects,
as well as possible, the users' desires. There should be one package
selection for a 700MB CD-ROM, and one for a 4.5GB DVD-ROM. With the
current squashfs compression, the actual filesystem size is about 3
times bigger than the packed one. This means that there can be quite a
few packages on it I'm open for your suggestions...
Regards,
Daniel
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It might be helpfull if you could post a link to the image and source
for people to try it out.
MfG
Goswin
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Petter Reinholdtsen
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:30 am Post subject:
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[Daniel Baumann]
| Quote: | I'm open for your suggestions...
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It would be great if the packages used by Debian Edu would be included
on the live CD. Our latest package lists are available from
<URL:http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-edu/trunk/src/debian-edu/tasks/?rev=0&sc=0>
I guess the standalone and desktop-kde tasks are the most relevant for
your live CD, thought I know we have discussed having live CDs for
thin client servers to allow them to be completely without local
state.
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Marco Amadori
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:40 am Post subject:
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Alle 09:48, sabato 3 giugno 2006, Goswin von Brederlow ha scritto:
| Quote: | It might be helpfull if you could post a link to the image and source
for people to try it out.
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http://live.debian.net/ - Main Project Site
http://live.debian.net/debian-cd/ - Isos to download and try out
svn co svn://live.debian.net/ - Sources
(I do not follow debian-devel and debian-edu)
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daniele favara
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:50 am Post subject:
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On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net> wrote:
| Quote: | [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ]
Hi all,
at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images:
* the small one which contains only packages of standard priority,
* and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common
desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde, xfce).
Now, we would like to create a decent package selection which reflects,
as well as possible, the users' desires. There should be one package
selection for a 700MB CD-ROM, and one for a 4.5GB DVD-ROM. With the
current squashfs compression, the actual filesystem size is about 3
times bigger than the packed one. This means that there can be quite a
few packages on it I'm open for your suggestions...
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why not to use moinmoin + seeds ?
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