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matt_left_coast
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Posts: 39

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

Trygve Selmer wrote:

Quote:
matt_left_coast wrote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

It's all about FREEDOM. Should I be free to configure my system the way
that *I* want, or should I give into usenet net nannies that want to
take that freedome away?

Of course you should. The problem is, it's not about your personal
server, but how any official servers should be configured!

My point is, people do not always HAVE access to "official servers". As
you pointed out leafnode is "it is primarily for off-line reading in a
home and/or small office environment". The people in that "small office
environment" that post thought leafnode are NOT posting to "official
servers". They are posting to a small office server (and yes it IS a
server, just not an "official server") that can be used to limit access
to the groups only the manager of the office wants them to have.

Please,
Matt. Stop this nonsense and accept that your news-server (leafnode?)
is private, not an official one.

That is my point, not everyone posts to "official" servers. Many people
in offices and homes post though PRIVATE servers that LIMIT access to the
groups the company allows! Why is that such a difficult concept for you
to grasp?

Oh, I do grasp the concept, do you? You are indeed posting through an
"official" server (news.rcn.net)

No, that is NOT the server I post to. I post to a LEAFNODE server on my
private network. So do 3 other people. The other 3 have NO DIRECT ACCESS TO
rcn.com. The do not post to rcn.com. Guess you are a little light on the
concept.

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from your machine belonging to
*.cable.rcn.com. So please, how you configure your client (and
leafnode *is* a client when posting articles)

Wrong, AGAIN. According to leafnode http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/ , right
up across the top of the page: "Leafnode - NNTP Server For Small Sites" If
you have a problem with leafnode being called a "server" take it up with
leafnode. Until you can convince the people at leafnode that leafnode is
not a server, I see no reason to believe YOU over them. Specially when it
is used AS A SERVER, and as a client, in my environment.


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is your business, but do
not use that as a description of how a "real" news-server should be
configured.

I am NOT saying how what you call a "real" news-server should be configured.
I am saying how a PROXY server (and according to leafnode, leafnode IS A
PROXY SERVER "Leafnode is a software package that implements a store &
forward NNTP proxy (client and server)...") Can be configured to limit
access of groups to employees or children.
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base60
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Joined: 07 Sep 2005
Posts: 322

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

Trygve Selmer wrote:
Quote:
matt_left_coast wrote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Moe Trin wrote:

[...]

Quote:

Well, many people feel this way. If you don't does not automatically
make these people liers. Please be more polite in your statements.

Obviously, you're unfamiliar with matt aka binky-boy :-)

FWIW, you're arguing with someone whom is considered by many to be
more than slightly barmy.

If you're doing it for entertainment value, enjoy.

Otherwise, you're wasting your time because he does so enjoy his
insane little rants.
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matt_left_coast
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Posts: 39

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

base60 wrote:

Quote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:
matt_left_coast wrote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Moe Trin wrote:

[...]


Well, many people feel this way. If you don't does not automatically
make these people liers. Please be more polite in your statements.

Obviously, you're unfamiliar with matt aka binky-boy :-)


Of course he is. I will point out where people are wrong no matter how
unpopular or how many people try to discredit me, as a person, rather than
debate what I have to say.

Quote:
FWIW, you're arguing with someone whom is considered by many to be
more than slightly barmy.


Ahhh, try to discredit the person rather than what is said.

Quote:
If you're doing it for entertainment value, enjoy.

You mean he is acting as if he does not know what a server is?

Quote:

Otherwise, you're wasting your time because he does so enjoy his
insane little rants.

So, I make the case that leafnode is a server and it is an insane rant? Get
real.
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Trygve Selmer
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Joined: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 93

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

base60 wrote:
Quote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Moe Trin wrote:

[...]

Well, many people feel this way. If you don't does not automatically
make these people liers. Please be more polite in your statements.

Obviously, you're unfamiliar with matt aka binky-boy :-)

FWIW, you're arguing with someone whom is considered by many to be
more than slightly barmy.

If you're doing it for entertainment value, enjoy.

Otherwise, you're wasting your time because he does so enjoy his
insane little rants.

I understand this now. Case closed.
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prodigal1
*nix forums Guru Wannabe


Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 169

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:40:18 +0200, Trygve Selmer wrote:

Quote:
base60 wrote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Moe Trin wrote:

[...]

Well, many people feel this way. If you don't does not automatically
make these people liers. Please be more polite in your statements.

Obviously, you're unfamiliar with matt aka binky-boy :-)

FWIW, you're arguing with someone whom is considered by many to be more
than slightly barmy.

If you're doing it for entertainment value, enjoy.

Otherwise, you're wasting your time because he does so enjoy his insane
little rants.

I understand this now. Case closed.

No, no, I think we need to revisit the need for more than 64mb of ram in
order to run X.
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matt_left_coast
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Joined: 05 May 2006
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

Trygve Selmer wrote:

Quote:
base60 wrote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Moe Trin wrote:

[...]

Well, many people feel this way. If you don't does not automatically
make these people liers. Please be more polite in your statements.

Obviously, you're unfamiliar with matt aka binky-boy :-)

FWIW, you're arguing with someone whom is considered by many to be
more than slightly barmy.

If you're doing it for entertainment value, enjoy.

Otherwise, you're wasting your time because he does so enjoy his
insane little rants.

I understand this now. Case closed.

This from a guy that does not even know what a server is. Yet again another
person that does not know what he is talking about is acting as if I am the
ass.
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Trygve Selmer
*nix forums addict


Joined: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 93

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

matt_left_coast wrote:
Quote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

base60 wrote:

Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Moe Trin wrote:

[...]

Well, many people feel this way. If you don't does not automatically
make these people liers. Please be more polite in your statements.

Obviously, you're unfamiliar with matt aka binky-boy :-)

FWIW, you're arguing with someone whom is considered by many to be
more than slightly barmy.

If you're doing it for entertainment value, enjoy.

Otherwise, you're wasting your time because he does so enjoy his
insane little rants.

I understand this now. Case closed.

This from a guy that does not even know what a server is. Yet again another
person that does not know what he is talking about is acting as if I am the
ass.

Oh dear, do you understand the difference of a proxy server and a real
server ? If I had stated the above, I would be called a lier. Why can
you not behave as a normal person ?

A discussion is a two-way exchange of information, but you obviously
are walking a one-way street. Sorry you have to walk alone.
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Keith Keller
*nix forums Guru


Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 608

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

On 2006-05-17, prodigal1 <prodig@l1.com> wrote:
Quote:

No, no, I think we need to revisit the need for more than 64mb of ram in
order to run X.

Pish posh! 640K ought to be enough for anybody!

--keith, who suspects that matt's brain is running on 640K

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matt_left_coast
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 05 May 2006
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

Trygve Selmer wrote:

Quote:
matt_left_coast wrote:
Trygve Selmer wrote:

base60 wrote:

Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Trygve Selmer wrote:

matt_left_coast wrote:

Moe Trin wrote:

[...]

Well, many people feel this way. If you don't does not automatically
make these people liers. Please be more polite in your statements.

Obviously, you're unfamiliar with matt aka binky-boy :-)

FWIW, you're arguing with someone whom is considered by many to be
more than slightly barmy.

If you're doing it for entertainment value, enjoy.

Otherwise, you're wasting your time because he does so enjoy his
insane little rants.

I understand this now. Case closed.

This from a guy that does not even know what a server is. Yet again
another person that does not know what he is talking about is acting as
if I am the ass.

Oh dear, do you understand the difference of a proxy server and a real
server ?

Oh, dear where did I ever say "REAL" (what ever that is supposed to mean)? A
proxy server is STILL A SERVER, that is what the second word of "proxy
server" is /*_SERVER_*/ regardless if you what to call it "real" (what ever
that means) or not. It IS A SERVER. Even the leafnode page calls it
a /*_SERVER_*/. What more do you need?

Quote:
If I had stated the above, I would be called a lier. Why can
you not behave as a normal person ?

What is "normal"? Is running around trying to say what server is "real" and
what server is not NORMAL? Not in MY book.

Quote:

A discussion is a two-way exchange of information, but you obviously
are walking a one-way street. Sorry you have to walk alone.

Yes, I am. I have read what YOU have to say and tried to address the points
you made, but you refuse to accept the DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE that shows that
leafnode IS A SERVER:

http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/

Right up across the top of the page in big bold letters that even you can
not miss: "Leafnode - NNTP Server For Small Sites".

Now why can't you be like a mature person, accept the documented evidence
and admit you are wrong?
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matt_left_coast
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 05 May 2006
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: test post Reply with quote

Keith Keller wrote:

Quote:
On 2006-05-17, prodigal1 <prodig@l1.com> wrote:

No, no, I think we need to revisit the need for more than 64mb of ram in
order to run X.

Pish posh! 640K ought to be enough for anybody!

--keith, who suspects that matt's brain is running on 640K


Ahh, more personal insults rather than address the issue. This is why I
don't care what you trolls think of me.
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