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jim bob and joe bob
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Just can't configure X right Reply with quote

It would surprise me if you were able to use my config file as is. It
may be of some help as a reference. Note that the 'configured mouse' is
a logitech trackball.
In the long run I think you will have more success running
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 as suggested in the comments of the
config file. That was what finally did the trick for me. I wish I
could be of more help but I do not remember the specific change that
finally made it work. I just kept running it and changing one thing at
a time and then running startx to see if it worked. As you well may
imagine, once it finally came up in X my enthusiasm shifted to exploring
what was possible from within X.
Good luck anyway.
kk
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Lorenzo
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Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: G-Linux, right from the ghetto Reply with quote

In article <GTC5e.12$II.7@news.itd.umich.edu>,
Selon <aaronds@umich.edu> wrote:

Quote:
I¹m going to install linux on my iBook G3 (233), but I want to go little
off the beaten path. I¹m going to install a basic package with the
Kernal, Winx, and all the other bare essentials. But us Ppc guys are a
little in the dark about these things. There is nothing published for us
So here are my key questions

1) What booting mechinsm should I use, I heard Grub is now the best, but
not sure if it is going to work for me.

2) has anyone used an iBook video card with linux, is there a driver or
configuation that I should know about

3) Do the airports really not work with linux?? Theres no way around
that? Mine is first generation

Anyway, thanks in advance to anyone who cen help me out

Correct me if I'm wrong, I've only run Linux on Old World G3's, but I
thought the bootloader for your New World iBook was yaboot, not grub or
even Lilo. For Old World boxes its BootX or miBoot or another whose name
I forget now.

--
"My Break-Dancing days are over, but there's always the Funky Chicken"
--The Full Monty
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Lorenzo
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Ubuntu or Debian?? Reply with quote

In article <1jL5e.32$II.4@news.itd.umich.edu>,
Selon <aaronds@umich.edu> wrote:

Quote:
My Ibook G3 is right on the line between old world and new? (took me a
while to figure that one out)
I have 64ram and 233Processor 6gigHD, Any feasible options?

so, who likes Ubuntu over Debian? visavirsa . .

(please be sure to mention what what kind of of machine your running
when your jocking your OS)

=AARON

I run Gentoo and have been for about a year and a half, I've never used
Ubuntu, but I ran Debian for about a year. I liked it, but they take
their time in delivering new packages. This is a good thing mind you, it
makes for a stable machine. I needed Apache 2 before they were ready to
release it. I don't disparage them for that though and would recommend
highly.

--
"My Break-Dancing days are over, but there's always the Funky Chicken"
--The Full Monty
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Duke Robillard
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Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: G-Linux, right from the ghetto Reply with quote

Selon wrote:
Quote:

I’m going to install linux on my iBook G3 (233), but I want to go little
off the beaten path. I’m going to install a basic package with the
Kernal, Winx, and all the other bare essentials. But us Ppc guys are a
little in the dark about these things. There is nothing published for us

Ah, but there is. Here's some info about the support for your hardware:

http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/hardware/breakdown/index.php?hw_cat_id=3

I've installed YDL on a 500Mhz iMac G3, and a 1GHz Titanium Powerbook G4,
and it went very well. Their instructions walk you through the partitioning
and boot loader stuff.

Quote:
3) Do the airports really not work with linux?? Theres no way around
that? Mine is first generation

The 802.11b ones work, the later ones ("extremmmmme" 802.11g) don't

Duke
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sam tygier
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ubuntu or Debian?? Reply with quote

if you want to run X then you probably need more ram.

it probably easier to make debain happy in a low ram situation, but ubuntu has all the light window managers in it universe repository.

i use ubuntu on a powerbook G4 1ghz, because i didn't want to have to spend much time setting it all up.

if it is old world, then you might want to look at yellowdog linux

sam tygier

Lorenzo wrote:
Quote:
In article <1jL5e.32$II.4@news.itd.umich.edu>,
Selon <aaronds@umich.edu> wrote:


My Ibook G3 is right on the line between old world and new? (took me a
while to figure that one out)
I have 64ram and 233Processor 6gigHD, Any feasible options?

so, who likes Ubuntu over Debian? visavirsa . .

(please be sure to mention what what kind of of machine your running
when your jocking your OS)

=AARON


I run Gentoo and have been for about a year and a half, I've never used
Ubuntu, but I ran Debian for about a year. I liked it, but they take
their time in delivering new packages. This is a good thing mind you, it
makes for a stable machine. I needed Apache 2 before they were ready to
release it. I don't disparage them for that though and would recommend
highly.
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Paul Russell
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Cheapt PowerPC G4 PCI coprocessor card for the PC? Reply with quote

Frank de Groot wrote:

Quote:
I am looking for the cheapest PowerPC G4 PCI coprocessor board for the PC.

All boards I have found are for military/medical applications and they sell
for very inflated prices compared to a Mac Mini.

When a Mac Mini can sell for 500 USD, shouldn't it be possible to have a PCI
card with a 1 GHz G4 available for 300 USD?

Volume and R&D cost is the issue here of course..

Anyonecould point me to the cheapest G4 PowerPC board(s) available? (1000
USD would be my limit).


Why not just buy a Mac Mini and be done with it ? You'd get a lot more
for your money, plus a decent operating system and great developer tools.

Paul
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Mr Gumby
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: G-Linux, right from the ghetto Reply with quote

Selon wrote:

Quote:

I’m going to install linux on my iBook G3 (233), but I want to go little
off the beaten path. I’m going to install a basic package with the
Kernal, Winx, and all the other bare essentials. But us Ppc guys are a
little in the dark about these things. There is nothing published for us
So here are my key questions

Would you please set your computer clock so your posts are
saying November 2005?
thanks,
Mark
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Paolo Peruzzi
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 44

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Java/eclipse in PPC Reply with quote

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:25:34 -0800, frodoweb wrote:

Quote:
en_EN: I think that the error is in SDK of ibm.com Sad. Can i find the
solution?¿
es_ES: No tengo muchas esperanzas en que alguien encuentre solucion,
porque creo que el error esta en el SDK de ibm.com.

For me only Eclipse showed this error.
java in the terminal was working well.

The following was the solution I found here:
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/JavaPPC

So I added "JITC_PROCESSOR_TYPE"="6" (for my G3)
to Eclipse
->Window->Preferences->Ant->Editor->Runtime->Properties->AddProperty

Paolo
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Arun Prasad Velu
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Urgent Requirement for Linux Developers! Reply with quote

http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/U.S.+slips+lower+in+coding+contest/2100-1022_3-5659116.html
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Andrew J. Brehm
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 08 Mar 2005
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Urgent Requirement for Embedded Linux, VxWorks & Nucleus Developers in Taiwan Reply with quote

HINET <lp.tsai@yahoo.com.tw> wrote:

Quote:
- Embedded Linux / Nucleus / VxWorks Engineer


When did it become established that it is ok to post recruitment ads to
technical newsgroups?


--
Andrew J. Brehm
Marx Brothers Fan
PowerPC/Macintosh User
Supporter of Chicken Sandwiches
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C Lund
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: OS X is PROOF linux that sucks! Reply with quote

In article <da6hts$kav$04$1@news.t-online.com>,
Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

Quote:
Bullshit, K?hlmann. I posted my response to your question about how OS X
GUI is more elegant than Linux.
Fine for you. You are another Mac-fanboy without a clue about linux.

Yeah... anybody who doesn't think Linux is perfect is just another
clueless fanboi...

Here's a page for you:

http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/fanboy.htm

Take special notice of that final sentence..

Quote:
(I posted it to the followup newsgroups
you specified, so you're going to go looking for it. What's with the
followup crap, anyway?)
It makes certain that ypur responses go to your group of utter retards.

Oh yeah.. that works *really* well... *rolls eyes*

So are you reading my reply in COLA or CSMA?

Quote:
You see, no matter what lies you invent, I am not really interested in them
You all, with nary any exception, know absolutely nothing about linux and
therefor are totally incompetent to compare it to anything
Your opinion is totatly worthless

It's not just your opinion that's worthless...

--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund
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l'indien
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 08 Apr 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Accessing OEA ('supervisor') SPRs from Linux userspace Reply with quote

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:22 -0700, knighttof3 wrote:

Quote:
Hi all,

Hi,

Quote:
I can think of a few reasons why user-level code is not allowed to
access the OEA SPRs on PowerPCs.

This is mandatory so the processor can be virtualized (ie you can run any
OS as a userland process with no modifications).
There is nothing in OEA SPRs that userland should know.

Quote:
Still, I am in a bind so any help
appreciated (even knowing it can or cannot be done will be a help).
I want to write a C program running in Linux userspace to read some
SPRs on a PowerPC (IBM PPC970 to be exact). Starting with MSR, of
course. How do I do it?
syscall? if yes, which one?

It would be a great mistake to grant access to MSR to a user process, even
for read-only. This is the most sensible register, then one of the
registers with the highest privilege: on POWER CPUs, even the OS has
restrictions for MSR access. Only the hypervisor has full modifications
rights on it
The only information that could eventually be usefull to a process like
X11 or a userland driver is the current endianness. As Linux always run
big-endian on PowerPC, this is a no go.

Quote:
I assume the privilege level has nothing to do with being the user
'root'?

No. It means you need to be in supervisor mode (ie kernel mode) or even
hypervisor mode (for POWER able to run multiples OSes concurently) to
access some resources.
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Mud
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Posts: 22

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel for IBM pSeries 620 RS64-IV Reply with quote

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:32:18 +0200, Rik Harbers wrote:

Quote:
Hi All,

Does anybody know which kernel flavour might work with the RS64-IV
processor? I tried ppc64 and Power3, both do not boot.

Thanks,

HTML on usenet! ugh!

Take a look at RHEL3.



coldfire
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Andrew Reilly
*nix forums Guru Wannabe


Joined: 26 Apr 2002
Posts: 148

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Blackdog Reply with quote

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:06:43 +0100, Andrew J. Brehm wrote:

Quote:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/08/10/HNusbserver_1.html

Unless somebody has actually seen this, I think it is a hoax; or at
least it wouldn't work as described here.

How would it take control of the console, specificallt the monitor? Does
it us virtual machine software on the host platform? The company Web
site <http://www.projectblackdog.com/> doesn't say.

From the discussion on Slashdot, it's not as sinister as that, and it does
work. It presents itself to the USB host as a umass (disk storage)
device, and Windows sees an AUTORUN program there, which starts a
full-screen X11 server, which communicates back over the usb cable with
the box, using a network protocol. Presumably your Windows session would
still be there, underneath, and probably accessible with alt-tab.

Haven't seen one myself, but it sounds pretty neat.

Cheers,

--
Andrew
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Steve Summit
*nix forums beginner


Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 48

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: obscure ld.so ordering snafu with Firefox Reply with quote

David Noon wrote:
Quote:
On Friday 28 Oct 2005 05:15 in article
djs8l1$46...@eskinews.eskimo.com> of comp.os.linux.development.apps,
Steve Summit wrote:
/usr/local/lib/firefox-1.0.7/firefox-bin: error while loading shared
libraries: /usr/local/lib/firefox-1.0.7/components/libdocshell.so:
undefined symbol: GetVisibility__C7nsIView

Did you run SuSEconfig after the build?

No. I tried it just now, and it didn't help. Thanks for the
suggestion, though.

Quote:
BTW, SuSE 7.3 is ancient!

Yeah, but it's what I've got! :-\

I thought I heard they weren't supporting PPC any more.
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