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bluesbravo@gmail.com
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:28 am Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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i am using 4.5,.....can someone please tell me where i can get a newer
version of stuffit?? when i tried to get one thru the apple site, they
were going to send me an email with a download link, but it never came |
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I R A Darth Aggie
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Joined: 23 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject:
Re: x-windows revisited
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:39:33 -0600,
jim bob and joe bob <wheatbread@milo.corn>, in
<111ibe5q3o9j9d6@corp.supernews.com> wrote:
| Quote: | + me that I have asked the wrong question. Probably what I really need to
+ know is how to get Debian or x-windows to recognise a adb mouse. There
+ is a macintosh keyboard selection in the system installer but nothing
+ that specifically mentions adb or macintosh mice. That is more ancient
+ technology that should be in some way supported. Any clues there?
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Do you have "mdetect" installed? if not, then "apt-get install
mdetect", then run mdetect. It should tell you what meeses you have
installed, what protocol they use, what their device names are.
James
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Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow
isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated. |
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jim bob and joe bob
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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bluesbravo@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | i am using 4.5,.....can someone please tell me where i can get a newer
version of stuffit?? when i tried to get one thru the apple site, they
were going to send me an email with a download link, but it never came
Link for VersionTracker: http://www.versiontracker.com/macos/ |
A good link to have handy.
Link to VersionTracker page that has Stuffit 7.0.3 download:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/19075
Try that.
kk |
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bluesbravo@gmail.com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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ty for the links.....i found another way to get this g3 running, and
please for give the multi-posts, but this new installation file seems
much easier....
I have finally had some success with installing debian on my G3 using
Mk-linux booter and other tools that were used in this installation
http://www.qednet.biz/About7100.html
i placed the appropriate files in their respective folders in the
Apple System folder, and when i restart, the dual-boot screen pops
up....BUT when i select linux, an installation begins but always
hangs-up on this line....
Copying boot infos parameters....done
Will enter kernel after relocating ourselves to 0x004f00 (size =
000600)
Restarting at 0x004f10c |
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blues
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 7
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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On 21 Feb 2005 11:20:22 -0800, "bluesbravo@gmail.com"
<bluesbravo@gmail.com> wrote:
i downloaded the stuffit from the link you gave me, but when i tried
to install it, i was told that i needed 8.6 to install....i am running
8.5 by the way....i have tried BootX, which my old version of Stuffit
will not 'unstuff', and i have tried the MKLinux booter, which hangs
on
Copying boot infos parameters....done
Will enter kernel after relocating ourselves to 0x004f00 (size =
000600)
Restarting at 0x004f10c
anyone have any solutions....THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
| Quote: | ty for the links.....i found another way to get this g3 running, and
please for give the multi-posts, but this new installation file seems
much easier....
I have finally had some success with installing debian on my G3 using
Mk-linux booter and other tools that were used in this installation
http://www.qednet.biz/About7100.html
i placed the appropriate files in their respective folders in the
Apple System folder, and when i restart, the dual-boot screen pops
up....BUT when i select linux, an installation begins but always
hangs-up on this line....
Copying boot infos parameters....done
Will enter kernel after relocating ourselves to 0x004f00 (size =
000600)
Restarting at 0x004f10c |
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jim bob and joe bob
*nix forums addict
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 67
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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blues wrote:
| Quote: | On 21 Feb 2005 11:20:22 -0800, "bluesbravo@gmail.com"
bluesbravo@gmail.com> wrote:
i downloaded the stuffit from the link you gave me, but when i tried
to install it, i was told that i needed 8.6 to install....i am running
8.5 by the way....i have tried BootX, which my old version of Stuffit
will not 'unstuff', and i have tried the MKLinux booter, which hangs
on
Copying boot infos parameters....done
Will enter kernel after relocating ourselves to 0x004f00 (size =
000600)
Restarting at 0x004f10c
anyone have any solutions....THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!
ty for the links.....i found another way to get this g3 running, and
please for give the multi-posts, but this new installation file seems
much easier....
I have finally had some success with installing debian on my G3 using
Mk-linux booter and other tools that were used in this installation
http://www.qednet.biz/About7100.html
i placed the appropriate files in their respective folders in the
Apple System folder, and when i restart, the dual-boot screen pops
up....BUT when i select linux, an installation begins but always
hangs-up on this line....
Copying boot infos parameters....done
Will enter kernel after relocating ourselves to 0x004f00 (size =
000600)
Restarting at 0x004f10c
Sorry, I guess I had never tried it on anything under 8.6. |
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jim bob and joe bob
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 67
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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bluesbravo@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | ty for the links.....i found another way to get this g3 running, and
please for give the multi-posts, but this new installation file seems
much easier....
I have finally had some success with installing debian on my G3 using
Mk-linux booter and other tools that were used in this installation
http://www.qednet.biz/About7100.html
i placed the appropriate files in their respective folders in the
Apple System folder, and when i restart, the dual-boot screen pops
up....BUT when i select linux, an installation begins but always
hangs-up on this line....
Copying boot infos parameters....done
Will enter kernel after relocating ourselves to 0x004f00 (size =
000600)
Restarting at 0x004f10c
Went to that site. Tried to download the files. It wanted a password |
to access. I read most of the rest of the site and no mention of
passwords at all. Any suggestions?
kk |
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blues
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 7
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:29 am Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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I didnt have any problems downloading them to my computer running XP,
which i have been using to download various files for this
installation...i could send you the files directly if you'd like to
try to work with them....i have noticed that if i change the lilo.con
file in the Mac OS preferences folder, i get different errors...
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/oldkernels.html
this link describes the changes i made to the lilo file. changing the
boot device to dev\ram never got past the dual boot selection screen;
a "system booting" message appears, but then it hangs...ANY IDEAS? |
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Anton Ertl
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 91
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:38 am Post subject:
Re: x-windows revisited
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jim bob and joe bob <wheatbread@milo.corn> writes:
| Quote: | I confess that I have not yet tried your last suggestion. It occurs to
me that I have asked the wrong question. Probably what I really need to
know is how to get Debian or x-windows to recognise a adb mouse. There
is a macintosh keyboard selection in the system installer but nothing
that specifically mentions adb or macintosh mice. That is more ancient
technology that should be in some way supported. Any clues there?
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My XF86Config-4 contains the following mouse configurations.
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Both are used in the ServerLayout section.
According to dmesg, I have an ADB mouse (the trackpad) and an USB mouse:
ADB mouse at 3, handler set to 4 (trackpad)
input: ADB mouse on adb3:3.01/input
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Topro USB Mouse] on usb-0001:10:1b.0-1
input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Topro USB Mouse] on usb-0001:10:1b.0-1
Both work, unfortunately (I would love to be able to disable the
trackpad).
- anton
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M. Anton Ertl Some things have to be seen to be believed
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at Most things have to be believed to be seen
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html |
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jim bob and joe bob
*nix forums addict
Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 67
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject:
RE: my rant, there is joy in mudville afterall
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Finally got KDE up and running. I think what I did different was put my
monitor refresh rate at 85mHz. I had been using the default settings
and they apparantly weren't working. Still no printer access, but will
work on that. I had tried Ubuntu/hoary and YDL/sirius with no
resounding success. Both failed to find the install cdrom after booting
from it. Go figure. Thanks to everyone for your indulgence and patience.
KK |
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lincr
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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You can't use MkLinux unless you have a Nubus Powermac. It is a Mach
kernel with some kind of LInux-userland system call hack. I used it on
a Performa, I liked it, but the Performa died.
Chicken or egg problems are the brain death of working with old Macs.
Have you ever tried to get ethernet working on a System 7 68k so you can
download stuffit etcetera? Argh.
| Quote: | http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/oldkernels.html
This will never work on your PCI Mac. |
Can't you decompress the file you need on another box? Or ask one of us
to do it.
Is there an intermediate version of Stuffit you can download, newer than
4 but not the newest?
Good luck.
Linc
blues wrote:
| Quote: | I didnt have any problems downloading them to my computer running XP,
which i have been using to download various files for this
installation...i could send you the files directly if you'd like to
try to work with them....i have noticed that if i change the lilo.con
file in the Mac OS preferences folder, i get different errors...
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/oldkernels.html
this link describes the changes i made to the lilo file. changing the
boot device to dev\ram never got past the dual boot selection screen;
a "system booting" message appears, but then it hangs...ANY IDEAS? |
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jim bob and joe bob
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 67
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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lincr wrote:
| Quote: | You can't use MkLinux unless you have a Nubus Powermac. It is a Mach
kernel with some kind of LInux-userland system call hack. I used it on
a Performa, I liked it, but the Performa died.
Chicken or egg problems are the brain death of working with old Macs.
Have you ever tried to get ethernet working on a System 7 68k so you can
download stuffit etcetera? Argh.
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/oldkernels.html
This will never work on your PCI Mac.
Can't you decompress the file you need on another box? Or ask one of us
to do it.
Is there an intermediate version of Stuffit you can download, newer than
4 but not the newest?
Good luck.
Linc
blues wrote:
I didnt have any problems downloading them to my computer running XP,
which i have been using to download various files for this
installation...i could send you the files directly if you'd like to
try to work with them....i have noticed that if i change the lilo.con
file in the Mac OS preferences folder, i get different errors...
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/oldkernels.html
this link describes the changes i made to the lilo file. changing the
boot device to dev\ram never got past the dual boot selection screen;
a "system booting" message appears, but then it hangs...ANY IDEAS?
I have a copy of Stuffit Lite 6.5 and Expander 5.5 you can have. 6.5 is |
around 6 mb, SEA file, and 5.5 is 1.2 mb. Should fit through email.
Not sure what OS it works with though. Let me know if you want either
or both.
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bluesbravo@gmail.com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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thank you very much...i would love to have a newer version of
stuffit...my email is bluesbravo@gmail.com |
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jim bob and joe bob
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Please Help!! OldWorld G3 problems
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bluesbravo@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | thank you very much...i would love to have a newer version of
stuffit...my email is bluesbravo@gmail.com
I sent you stuffit 6.01 this morning (Friday). It will come from my |
Yahoo email. Let me know if you have not received it in a day or so.
kk |
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mfproroc
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:02 am Post subject:
Re: Any distro that will install/run on PreP PPC boxes?
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43p-140s aren't bad machines runing one as an nfs server right now.
as mentioned Leigh Brown's site:
was extremely helpful.
After first getting one up and goin in Debian I ended up switching it
over to gentoo which runs fine - perhaps better than Debian.
Just get ready to use your serial console - IBM was not very nice
concerning graphics though I did get X going on a matrox card.
outside of the graphics issues (not a problem on server boxes) a great
and stable box.
MFP |
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