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Jim
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 609

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:43 pm Post subject: Note

Re: Re-visit: Thinkpad 760el D-Link dfe-690-txd problems

dhinds@sonic.net wrote:

Quote:

Gary <gws1@mtco.com> wrote:

The card gives me a low pitch beep on insertion and a high beep on eject.
The manfid is not correct, (0x1186, 0x1340) should be (0x149 ,0x0000) for
this card.

The reported IDs are PCI IDs, not PCMCIA manfids. The reported IDs
are correct. The PCMCIA manfids are different.

May 2 11:32:35 loki kernel: cs: could not allocate 4K memory for CardBus
socket 0

This is your problem. I'm not sure why you're getting this error.

Oh.

Please put back the original, unmodified /etc/pcmcia/config and
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts files. When you replaced the config file, you
deleted the "source ./config.opts" line, hence, all your resource
definitions are being completely ignored.

-- Dave
from the Linux-PCMCIA-Config-HOWTO:

Symptoms:

* When a card is inserted, it is identified correctly but cannot be
configured (high/low beep pattern).
* One of the following messages will appear in the system log:

RequestIO: Resource in use
RequestIRQ: Resource in use
RequestWindow: Resource in use
GetNextTuple: No more items
could not allocate nn IO ports for CardBus socket n
could not allocate nnK memory for CardBus socket n
could not allocate interrupt for CardBus socket n

Interrupt starvation often indicates a problem with the interrupt probe
(see Interrupt scan failures). In some cases, the probe will seem to
work, but only report one or two available interrupts. Check your system
log to see if the scan results look sensible. Disabling the probe and
selecting interrupts manually should help.

If the interrupt probe is not working properly, the socket driver may
allocate an interrupt for monitoring card insertions, even when
interrupts are too scarce for this to be a good idea. You can switch the
controller to polled mode by setting PCIC_OPTS to ``poll_interval=100'.
Or, if you have a CardBus controller and an older version of the PCMCIA
drivers, try ``pci_csc=1'', which selects a PCI interrupt (if available)
for card status changes.

IO port starvation is fairly uncommon, but sometimes happens with cards
that require large, contiguous, aligned regions of IO port space, or
that only recognize a few specific IO port positions. The default IO
port ranges in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts are normally sufficient, but may
be extended. If this is the problem, try uncommenting the ``include port
0x1000-0x17ff'' line in config.opts. In rare cases, starvation may
indicate that the IO port probe failed (see IO port scan failures).

Memory starvation is also uncommon with the default memory window
settings in config.opts. CardBus cards may require larger memory regions
than typical 16-bit cards. Since CardBus memory windows can be mapped
anywhere in the host's PCI address space (rather than just in the
640K-1MB ``hole'' in PC systems), it is helpful to specify large memory
windows in high memory, such as 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff.

HTH

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mjt
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Joined: 09 Mar 2005
Posts: 961

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: Note

Re: SuSE 9.3 Prof. does not recognize harddisk

(Andrew <yogig.nospamm.nospam@nospam.hotmail.com>) scribbled:

Quote:

mjt wrote:
(Torsten Holger Bischoff <Torsten-Holger.Bischoff@siemens.com>) scribbled:

after successfully having done some installations of the new SuSE 9.3
Professional Linux on several computers including a notebook, I started
to install it as well on my Fujitsu Siemens Amilo D (P IV A, 2.8 GHz).
Doing that the installer told me he could not recognize any hard disks
on my notebook. On the other hand, SuSE 9.2 Professional works with the
Toshiba MK6021 GAS hard disk without any problems.

... try the "insmod=ide-generic" install option

It worked for me!

.... yep, i attribute that answer to Andrew - it actually
came from him, via email, and i just used it :)

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"If you are beginning to doubt what I am saying, you are
probably hallucinating."
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:15 pm Post subject: Note

Re: Re-visit: Thinkpad 760el D-Link dfe-690-txd problems

Gary <gws1@mtco.com> wrote:

Quote:

The card gives me a low pitch beep on insertion and a high beep on eject.
The manfid is not correct, (0x1186, 0x1340) should be (0x149 ,0x0000) for
this card.

The reported IDs are PCI IDs, not PCMCIA manfids. The reported IDs
are correct. The PCMCIA manfids are different.

Quote:

May 2 11:32:35 loki kernel: cs: could not allocate 4K memory for CardBus
socket 0

This is your problem. I'm not sure why you're getting this error.

Oh.

Please put back the original, unmodified /etc/pcmcia/config and
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts files. When you replaced the config file, you
deleted the "source ./config.opts" line, hence, all your resource
definitions are being completely ignored.

-- Dave

renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: Note

Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?

Thanks Ray,

Quote:

Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.

Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:

Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found

I'm not sure what that means though.

Paul

renewontime dot com
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Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: Note

Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?

Thanks Ray,

Quote:

Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.

Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:

Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found

I'm not sure what that means though.

Paul

renewontime dot com
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Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: Note

Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?

Thanks Ray,

Quote:

Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.

Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:

Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found

I'm not sure what that means though.

Paul

renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: Note

Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?

Thanks Ray,

Quote:

Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.

Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:

Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found

I'm not sure what that means though.

Paul

renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: Note

Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?

Thanks Ray,

Quote:

Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.

Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:

Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found

I'm not sure what that means though.

Paul

Jug
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:00 am Post subject: Note

Re: LILO Problem (mndrk 10.0)

"John Coombes" <nospam@anitspammers.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.06.04.03.21.786147@anitspammers.com...

Quote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:55:48 +0200, Jug wrote:

Hi,

I ve just installed Linux-Mandrake 10.0 on a laptop (Centrino, 512 RAM,
93 Go HD...) and I ve encountered a major problem at the starting.

LILO doesn't seem to work, it only prints "L" and then nothing happens.
It
is really annoying cause I can't access XP anymore ...

Thank you for any help you could provide.

I can only offer a little advice by asking questions
(answers like "I don't know" are not usefull)

(1) towards the end of install where did you tell it to install the Lilo
boot loader to ? Was it the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive ?

(2) Do you have a bootable XP CD ? you know you can restor the Windows
boot loader with it.

(3) further to (2) above [eg. restor XP) you could then try a re-install
of Mandrake (over writing the previous) - BUT - this time at the VERY
FIRST splash screen hit the F1 key (its written at bottem) and then type
the word
expert
And then press Enter
NOTE: using the "expert" method is not very hard, so do not be afrade to
use it - BUT - by using expert you have much more control of the
installation AND will be able to ensure that the Lilo bootloader gets
installed to the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive (typically known as
/dev/hda ) and not get installed to any Logical Partitions that are within
a Extended partition.

NOTE: usually installing almost any Linux distro will give you the option
to setup Multi-boot with Win/Linux - some like MDK can do it almost
automatically - some other distros require that you select this option

PS: if you have not found it yet ? a much better place to as spacific
questions about Mandrake are :- alt.os.linux.mandrake

Best of luck, yours John (using MDK since v.6.0 upto v.10.1)

(1) MBR
(2) Actually I did restore XP (repair option) with my CD (I don t know how
to restore the Boot Loader) :
2.1 Most of the files were saved (Postgre doesn t work anymore)
2.1 This morning XP doesn t seem to work again (black screen)
(3) I will do that this time

(4) My XP CD seems only to work when the whole HD is allowed to XP, I had to
delete Linux partitions and reextend the Windows one to restore ...

Thx for your help

John Coombes
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 3

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:03 am Post subject: Note

Re: LILO Problem (mndrk 10.0)

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:55:48 +0200, Jug wrote:

Quote:

Hi,

I ve just installed Linux-Mandrake 10.0 on a laptop (Centrino, 512 RAM,
93 Go HD...) and I ve encountered a major problem at the starting.

LILO doesn't seem to work, it only prints "L" and then nothing happens. It
is really annoying cause I can't access XP anymore ...

Thank you for any help you could provide.

I can only offer a little advice by asking questions
(answers like "I don't know" are not usefull)

(1) towards the end of install where did you tell it to install the Lilo
boot loader to ? Was it the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive ?

(2) Do you have a bootable XP CD ? you know you can restor the Windows
boot loader with it.

(3) further to (2) above [eg. restor XP) you could then try a re-install
of Mandrake (over writing the previous) - BUT - this time at the VERY
FIRST splash screen hit the F1 key (its written at bottem) and then type
the word
expert
And then press Enter
NOTE: using the "expert" method is not very hard, so do not be afrade to
use it - BUT - by using expert you have much more control of the
installation AND will be able to ensure that the Lilo bootloader gets
installed to the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive (typically known as
/dev/hda ) and not get installed to any Logical Partitions that are within
a Extended partition.

NOTE: usually installing almost any Linux distro will give you the option
to setup Multi-boot with Win/Linux - some like MDK can do it almost
automatically - some other distros require that you select this option

PS: if you have not found it yet ? a much better place to as spacific
questions about Mandrake are :- alt.os.linux.mandrake

Best of luck, yours John (using MDK since v.6.0 upto v.10.1)

Michael Hoye
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 3

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:46 am Post subject: Note

Re: Debian laptop upgrade problem.

In article <cv03t0$593$1@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca>,
Michael Hoye <mhoye@wabakimi.carleton.ca> wrote:

Quote:

In article <87brakbeh1.fsf@stratocaster.home>,
Eric C. Cooper <ecc@address.below> wrote:
mhoye@wabakimi.carleton.ca (Michael Hoye) writes:
I own an Asus pcmcia wlan card, a well-supported Prism2 / Orinoco
widget that works very well. I have installed Debian (via Knoppix,
k2hd) on my laptop, and the card works fine. Once I tell Apt to point
at Sid and do a full upgrade, though, it stops working completely as
soon as the upgrade's over.

Here are a couple of things to try. First, did apt-get install a
different kernel, or are you still using the one Knoppix installed?

No, the two that Knoppix installed both exhibit the same behaviour.

I've figured it out. In /etc/pcmcia/config there's the correct
information, described like so:

card "ASUS SpaceLink WL-100"
manfid 0x02aa, 0x0002
bind "orinoco_cs"

However, this is superceded when all the other conf files are sourced
at the end of it - in /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.conf, the following is
included:

card "ASUS WL-100 802.11b WLAN PC Card"
version "ASUS", "802_11b_PC_CARD_25"
bind "prism2_cs"

card "ASUS WL-110 802.11b WLAN CF Card"
version "ASUS", "802_11B_CF_CARD_25"
bind "prism2_cs"

I have the Orinoco modules on my system, but not the prism2 modules;
I thought that the orinocos had replaced them. So, I plug it in, and
nothing happens. However, once I've deleted the ASUS bits from
wlan-ng.conf and restarted the relevant services, it works like a
charm.

--
Mike Hoye

Fred Krogh
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 10

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: Note

Re: No mouse on IBM T21

Fred Krogh wrote:

Quote:

Dances With Crows wrote:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:52:26 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:

Dances With Crows wrote:

[ problems with the Trackpoint on a Thinkpad T21, snipped]

0. Go into the machine's BIOS Setup and make sure the TrackPoint is
enabled. Yes, it'd be dumb to have it disabled, but sometimes people
do dumb things.

3. Drink a beer. You probably need one after all this hassle :-)

Thank you so much for sticking with this. I had disabled the
trackpoint, but this was just the latest action in a lot of desperate
attempts.

The check if IRQ 12 was insightful. It is not even listed. A close
look at the kernel configuration and I saw that my mouse and serial
port were set as loadable modules.

PS/2 mouse support should usually be built in to the kernel. If for
some reason, you want to have it as a module, the line "psmouse" must be
present in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 , so it'll be loaded
before X starts.

When you say "serial port", what did you really mean? The 9-pin port on
the back of the machine is the serial port. The rectangular port that's
about 13mm * 4mm and has 4 wires is the USB port. USB != serial.

know what was needed and figured it was better not to load something
wrong and let Linux figure out what needed to be loaded. BIG mistake.

Most of the time, modules are better, but there are a few things that
need to be built in. (IDE disk support, ELF binary support, support for
the filesystem where your / is, SCSI support, SCSI disk support, and
support for your SCSI card if your / is on a SCSI disk.) The real
problem is probably related to devfs/udev. Typically, the kernel looks
at /etc/modules.conf and loads module NNN when a device with major
number M is accessed. But with devfs/udev, the device with major M
doesn't typically exist until the module is loaded! (That's why you put
a bunch of modules in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ; when all the
stuff you need is loaded, all the devices exist, and everyone's happy.)

With the new kernel the trackpoint works. The serial mouse does not.

Your X config file has a USB mouse defined, but no serial mice. Make
sure your terminology is correct; it saves a lot of hassle. I'm going
to assume that you meant "USB mouse" because that makes more sense--
9-pin serial mice are fairly rare these days.

http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/config-2.6.10

(uhci_hcd, usbcore, usbhid are all built in to the kernel)

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USBMouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2" # should be IMPS/2; all USB mice use that.
Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
# This isn't right, I think. Try /dev/input/mouse1 or mouse0.
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Don't use this if your mouse has a wheel.
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50 # or this
# Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" # If your USB mouse has a wheel.
EndSection

# in ServerLayout section
InputDevice "PS2Mouse" "CorePointer"
# InputDevice "USBMouse" "CorePointer"

# Change that to
InputDevice "USBMouse" "SendCoreEvents"
# since X won't use the device if it's commented out, and you can only
# have one CorePointer IIRC. Change config file, restart X and try
# again (sigh).

t21 root # cat /proc/interrupts
0: 1502161 XT-PIC timer
1: 1566 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
7: 42 XT-PIC parport0
9: 10 XT-PIC acpi, yenta
10: 3 XT-PIC uhci_hcd
11: 453 XT-PIC yenta, eth0
12: 13030 XT-PIC i8042
14: 4334 XT-PIC ide0
15: 16 XT-PIC ide1

Looks fairly reasonable to me.

Many many thanks for your wonderful assistance,

No problem.

Just a quick response. It turns out I'm using a very old mouse. I'll
either need to get a USB mouse, or change xorg.conf for the support of
the serial mouse. At the moment I'm totally swamped and the laptop is
actually quite usable. When all is together, I'll write up a short
summary and post it here and one other place.
Thanks again,
Fred
To end this thread, I got a new 7 dollar PS2/USB mouse. It was easy to

get the mouse working although I did not succeed in getting the
trackpoint and external mouse available at the same time. Tried
following Googled advice on the scroll wheel and have concluded that
probably the mouse is defective. Thanks again for all the help.
Fred

Hactar
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Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 23

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject: Note

Re: External Firewire HD help??

In article <110hfp86b82mf56@corp.supernews.com>,
renewontime dot com <noone@nospam.com> wrote:

Quote:

Assuming you're mounting the device as a scsi hard drive... are the
kernels
you are using setup for probing all luns? If not, you'll get the symptom
you described above.

I don't know, how do I find out?

Sometimes you can run "zgrep CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN /proc/config.gz". If
/proc/config.gz isn't there, I don't know what to do.

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razzledazzle
*nix forums beginner

Joined: 26 Feb 2005
Posts: 1

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: Note

dunno if this is any good - i have a p10-802 + run suse9.1

Ok so i guess the same labtop isn't for sale anymore but FYI:

Quote:

I'm wondering if the DVD reading/burning works fully
yep. Suse 9.1 doen't come with dvd decoding but you get that off

packman. You also need to turn DMA on manually to avoid jerky
playback

Quote:

plus the WiFi
dunno about this one... haven't tried it

Quote:

and interfaces such as USB2
yeah it seems to.... not sure if it's taking advantage of 2.0 or not

tho - could be using 1.x

Quote:

& S-Video in particular
dunno. soz

Quote:

It is a Pentium 4 with HT (Hyperthread I believe). Can Linux use
the HT part?

no apparently not. now i can't remember where this cropped up, but i
got an error somewhere and the cause was the HT. may have been when
playing games etc.

Quote:

The native Windows (XP Home Ed) doesn't does it?
really? i just assumed it did. what's the point of having it then??

stupid toshiba

other things to note are:
- CDs play nice and easy
- suse is the ONLY distro that detects the screen AND the mouse. with
other distros (FC2 and others) either the screen was just blank or the
mouse just didn't work, even after the install (which was painful with
only a keyboard). oh that reminds me, some distros require special
commands at the 'linux' install promt to get the keyboard working.
- remarkably suse seems to be able to use the weird 1280x800
resolution. it didn't at first but then i had a play in the graphics
settings and tried to give it a higher setting then it could cope
with (1280x1024??) and it just auto detected 1280x800. which is
nice.

PROBLEMS:
- the ATI mobility 9700 graphics card is supported for 2D BUT NOT 3D.
dissappointing ATI Sad

- when rebooting, the screen doesn't come back on. im not even sure
if the whole syst come back. this gets weirder coz if you 'turn off'
and then 'turn on' u get the same prob UNLESS you insert/take out the
power lead, or give it a long break (eg days) in between. weird.
- there can be a rather disturbing 'whirrrrrr' sound when you power
down, like the HD has not been spun down properly. but this only
happens sometimes. makes me cringe every time tho - makes me wonder
when my last backup was Smile

)

Hope this helps. shame i didn't find your post earlier - i joined this
forum just for you. u can thank google.co.uk/linux

Cheers
Razzle

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: Note

Re: Good Linux Laptop?

Thomas Tuttle wrote:

Quote:

The German magazine c't (issue 17/2004) contains a comparison
of the following laptops:

1)
Acer TM 8005MLI ++
Apple iBook G4 -
Asus W1000N o
Asus(Xtops.de) M2400N ++
Averatec 3200 o
BenQ Joybook 5100U o
Dell Inspiron 510m -
Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo A1630 o
Gericom Hummer 2860 XL -
HP nc6000 ++
IBM TP R51 +
IBM TP T42P +
JVC MP-XP731 ++
Toshiba Satellite A40-141 -

Isn't this a slightly odd list?
I'm no expert, but my current 3 favourites at the moment
would be Fujitsu-P7000, Sony-C1 and Flybook ...
(Ps I like small laptops.)

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