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Bill Waddington
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject:
Re: Fedora or SuSE for centrino laptop?
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:29:56 -0500, General Schvantzkoph
<schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:51:14 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote:
Martin Liddle <news09@tynecomp.co.uk> writes:
Are you sure. What about <http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/>?
That is the binary wrapper thingie, I think.
Looks like a real driver to me. The wifi wrapper is Ndiswrapper which
allows you to use a Windows driver.
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The General is correct. The IPW driver is (mostly) open source - and
written primarily (so far) by Intel folks. Ndiswrapper is a Linux
wrapper for the XP driver.
Either one works fine in my somewhat limited experience with my
IBM R40 Centrino running FC2.
Bill
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william.waddington@beezmo.com
"Even bugs...are unexpected signposts on
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Thomas Tuttle
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 3
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Re: Good Linux Laptop?
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Visvanath Ratnaweera wrote:
| Quote: | Stephan Kupfer wrote:
Kalevi Nyman wrote:
Which laptop is a good choice for using Linux?
I like my IBM Thinkpad X40, its really good. All components work with my
gentoo installation.
As a student i get it for i good price.
The German magazine c't (issue 17/2004) contains a comparison
of the following laptops:
1)
Acer TM 8005MLI ++
Apple iBook G4 -
Asus W1000N o
Asus(Xtops.de) M2400N ++
Averatec 3200 o
BenQ Joybook 5100U o
Dell Inspiron 510m -
Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo A1630 o
Gericom Hummer 2860 XL -
HP nc6000 ++
IBM TP R51 +
IBM TP T42P +
JVC MP-XP731 ++
Toshiba Satellite A40-141 -
1) (Linux) Functionality
++ very good + o - -- very bad
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I can agree with their "very good" rating of the Asus M2400N. I have
one myself, and it works great with Gentoo. The wireless cards finally
have drivers (ipw2200), and all the other hardware (except the winmodem)
works fine.
| Quote: | (The above is just a single column from that long report.)
The latest Linux Journal (1/2005) has a test report of
HP Compaq nx5000. A quote from that:
1.4 GHz Intel Pentium M, 2 GB max.
Display XGA (1024x768) or XSGA+ (1400x1050)
Combo DVD/CD-RW
WLAN Atheros a/b/g
Winmodem (slamr module)
"With the nx5000, HP gets closer than anyone has yet to a
general-purpose business PC running Linux. If you want to
make your company's Linux desktop migration a treat of
working in cafés and enjoying media instead of a chore,
get one to evaluate. Dorm-room or small-apartment dwellers
can consider this as a good main computer and entertainment
system." Don Marti, Editor in Chief of Linux Journal
Use Centrino or Pentium M Notebooks, not the P4 crapp.
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Agreed. Much cooler, and sometimes faster.
| Quote: | If it has to [be] portable, definitely!
But not necessarily for somebody who is looking for a "desktop
replacement".
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True. The Pentium-M is quite powerful though.
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Thomas Tuttle
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 3
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:53 am Post subject:
Re: Intel 2200BG Wireless Driver
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Bill Unruh wrote:
| Quote: | "Thomas V." <thomas@nospam.tld> writes:
Hey !
Which driver do you use for your Intel 2200BG Wireless card.
I heard about 2 or 3 drivers. (IPW2200, NDIS, and another one...)
ipw2200 is native driver. Ndiswrapper and linuxant driverloader are
programs which use the Windows drivers under Linux.
Is it possible to use it in Monitor mode ? (for wardriving softwares)
What is monitor mode?
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There are 3 ways a wireless card can run. (Not counting ad-hoc, but
that's irrelevant.) The "normal" way is for it to talk to an access
point and pass only packets destined for it to the OS. "Promiscuous"
mode (often confused with monitor, but not the same thing) comes from
Ethernet and will pass all packets on the network to the OS. "Monitor",
or "rfmon" mode will pass all raw 802.11g packets to the OS, allowing it
to see traffic from any network, encrypted or not (obviously it can't
decrypt encrypted traffic, but it will pass it on nonetheless). The
reason for the distinction is that on 802.11, the traffic on one network
(promiscuous) is not the same as all traffic received (rfmon), while on
Ethernet you only receive traffic on one network, so they are the same
thing.
And, no, ipw2200 doesn't have rfmon. (Yet.)
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Timothy Murphy
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 146
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Re: Good Linux Laptop?
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Thomas Tuttle wrote:
| Quote: | The German magazine c't (issue 17/2004) contains a comparison
of the following laptops:
1)
Acer TM 8005MLI ++
Apple iBook G4 -
Asus W1000N o
Asus(Xtops.de) M2400N ++
Averatec 3200 o
BenQ Joybook 5100U o
Dell Inspiron 510m -
Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo A1630 o
Gericom Hummer 2860 XL -
HP nc6000 ++
IBM TP R51 +
IBM TP T42P +
JVC MP-XP731 ++
Toshiba Satellite A40-141 -
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Isn't this a slightly odd list?
I'm no expert, but my current 3 favourites at the moment
would be Fujitsu-P7000, Sony-C1 and Flybook ...
(Ps I like small laptops.)
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
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razzledazzle
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 26 Feb 2005
Posts: 1
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject:
dunno if this is any good - i have a p10-802 + run suse9.1
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Ok so i guess the same labtop isn't for sale anymore but FYI:
| Quote: | I'm wondering if the DVD reading/burning works fully
yep. Suse 9.1 doen't come with dvd decoding but you get that off |
packman. You also need to turn DMA on manually to avoid jerky
playback
| Quote: | plus the WiFi
dunno about this one... haven't tried it |
| Quote: | and interfaces such as USB2
yeah it seems to.... not sure if it's taking advantage of 2.0 or not |
tho - could be using 1.x
| Quote: | & S-Video in particular
dunno. soz |
| Quote: | It is a Pentium 4 with HT (Hyperthread I believe). Can Linux use
the HT part? |
no apparently not. now i can't remember where this cropped up, but i
got an error somewhere and the cause was the HT. may have been when
playing games etc.
| Quote: | The native Windows (XP Home Ed) doesn't does it?
really? i just assumed it did. what's the point of having it then?? |
stupid toshiba
other things to note are:
- CDs play nice and easy
- suse is the ONLY distro that detects the screen AND the mouse. with
other distros (FC2 and others) either the screen was just blank or the
mouse just didn't work, even after the install (which was painful with
only a keyboard). oh that reminds me, some distros require special
commands at the 'linux' install promt to get the keyboard working.
- remarkably suse seems to be able to use the weird 1280x800
resolution. it didn't at first but then i had a play in the graphics
settings and tried to give it a higher setting then it could cope
with (1280x1024??) and it just auto detected 1280x800. which is
nice.
PROBLEMS:
- the ATI mobility 9700 graphics card is supported for 2D BUT NOT 3D.
dissappointing ATI 
- when rebooting, the screen doesn't come back on. im not even sure
if the whole syst come back. this gets weirder coz if you 'turn off'
and then 'turn on' u get the same prob UNLESS you insert/take out the
power lead, or give it a long break (eg days) in between. weird.
- there can be a rather disturbing 'whirrrrrr' sound when you power
down, like the HD has not been spun down properly. but this only
happens sometimes. makes me cringe every time tho - makes me wonder
when my last backup was  )
Hope this helps. shame i didn't find your post earlier - i joined this
forum just for you. u can thank google.co.uk/linux
Cheers
Razzle
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Hactar
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 23
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject:
Re: External Firewire HD help??
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In article <110hfp86b82mf56@corp.supernews.com>,
renewontime dot com <noone@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Assuming you're mounting the device as a scsi hard drive... are the
kernels
you are using setup for probing all luns? If not, you'll get the symptom
you described above.
I don't know, how do I find out?
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Sometimes you can run "zgrep CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN /proc/config.gz". If
/proc/config.gz isn't there, I don't know what to do.
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-eben ebQenW1@EtaRmpTabYayU.rIr.OcoPm home.tampabay.rr.com/hactar
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool;
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Fred Krogh
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject:
Re: No mouse on IBM T21
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Fred Krogh wrote:
| Quote: | Dances With Crows wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:52:26 -0800, Fred Krogh staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
Dances With Crows wrote:
[ problems with the Trackpoint on a Thinkpad T21, snipped]
0. Go into the machine's BIOS Setup and make sure the TrackPoint is
enabled. Yes, it'd be dumb to have it disabled, but sometimes people
do dumb things.
3. Drink a beer. You probably need one after all this hassle :-)
Thank you so much for sticking with this. I had disabled the
trackpoint, but this was just the latest action in a lot of desperate
attempts.
The check if IRQ 12 was insightful. It is not even listed. A close
look at the kernel configuration and I saw that my mouse and serial
port were set as loadable modules.
PS/2 mouse support should usually be built in to the kernel. If for
some reason, you want to have it as a module, the line "psmouse" must be
present in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 , so it'll be loaded
before X starts.
When you say "serial port", what did you really mean? The 9-pin port on
the back of the machine is the serial port. The rectangular port that's
about 13mm * 4mm and has 4 wires is the USB port. USB != serial.
know what was needed and figured it was better not to load something
wrong and let Linux figure out what needed to be loaded. BIG mistake.
Most of the time, modules are better, but there are a few things that
need to be built in. (IDE disk support, ELF binary support, support for
the filesystem where your / is, SCSI support, SCSI disk support, and
support for your SCSI card if your / is on a SCSI disk.) The real
problem is probably related to devfs/udev. Typically, the kernel looks
at /etc/modules.conf and loads module NNN when a device with major
number M is accessed. But with devfs/udev, the device with major M
doesn't typically exist until the module is loaded! (That's why you put
a bunch of modules in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ; when all the
stuff you need is loaded, all the devices exist, and everyone's happy.)
With the new kernel the trackpoint works. The serial mouse does not.
Your X config file has a USB mouse defined, but no serial mice. Make
sure your terminology is correct; it saves a lot of hassle. I'm going
to assume that you meant "USB mouse" because that makes more sense--
9-pin serial mice are fairly rare these days.
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/xorg.conf
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/Xorg.0.log
http://mathalacarte.com/fkrogh/config-2.6.10
(uhci_hcd, usbcore, usbhid are all built in to the kernel)
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USBMouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2" # should be IMPS/2; all USB mice use that.
Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
# This isn't right, I think. Try /dev/input/mouse1 or mouse0.
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Don't use this if your mouse has a wheel.
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50 # or this
# Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" # If your USB mouse has a wheel.
EndSection
# in ServerLayout section
InputDevice "PS2Mouse" "CorePointer"
# InputDevice "USBMouse" "CorePointer"
# Change that to
InputDevice "USBMouse" "SendCoreEvents"
# since X won't use the device if it's commented out, and you can only
# have one CorePointer IIRC. Change config file, restart X and try
# again (sigh).
t21 root # cat /proc/interrupts
0: 1502161 XT-PIC timer
1: 1566 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
7: 42 XT-PIC parport0
9: 10 XT-PIC acpi, yenta
10: 3 XT-PIC uhci_hcd
11: 453 XT-PIC yenta, eth0
12: 13030 XT-PIC i8042
14: 4334 XT-PIC ide0
15: 16 XT-PIC ide1
Looks fairly reasonable to me.
Many many thanks for your wonderful assistance,
No problem.
Just a quick response. It turns out I'm using a very old mouse. I'll
either need to get a USB mouse, or change xorg.conf for the support of
the serial mouse. At the moment I'm totally swamped and the laptop is
actually quite usable. When all is together, I'll write up a short
summary and post it here and one other place.
Thanks again,
Fred
To end this thread, I got a new 7 dollar PS2/USB mouse. It was easy to |
get the mouse working although I did not succeed in getting the
trackpoint and external mouse available at the same time. Tried
following Googled advice on the scroll wheel and have concluded that
probably the mouse is defective. Thanks again for all the help.
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Michael Hoye
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 3
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:
Re: Debian laptop upgrade problem.
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In article <cv03t0$593$1@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca>,
Michael Hoye <mhoye@wabakimi.carleton.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <87brakbeh1.fsf@stratocaster.home>,
Eric C. Cooper <ecc@address.below> wrote:
mhoye@wabakimi.carleton.ca (Michael Hoye) writes:
I own an Asus pcmcia wlan card, a well-supported Prism2 / Orinoco
widget that works very well. I have installed Debian (via Knoppix,
k2hd) on my laptop, and the card works fine. Once I tell Apt to point
at Sid and do a full upgrade, though, it stops working completely as
soon as the upgrade's over.
Here are a couple of things to try. First, did apt-get install a
different kernel, or are you still using the one Knoppix installed?
No, the two that Knoppix installed both exhibit the same behaviour.
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I've figured it out. In /etc/pcmcia/config there's the correct
information, described like so:
card "ASUS SpaceLink WL-100"
manfid 0x02aa, 0x0002
bind "orinoco_cs"
However, this is superceded when all the other conf files are sourced
at the end of it - in /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.conf, the following is
included:
card "ASUS WL-100 802.11b WLAN PC Card"
version "ASUS", "802_11b_PC_CARD_25"
bind "prism2_cs"
card "ASUS WL-110 802.11b WLAN CF Card"
version "ASUS", "802_11B_CF_CARD_25"
bind "prism2_cs"
I have the Orinoco modules on my system, but not the prism2 modules;
I thought that the orinocos had replaced them. So, I plug it in, and
nothing happens. However, once I've deleted the ASUS bits from
wlan-ng.conf and restarted the relevant services, it works like a
charm.
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John Coombes
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 3
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:03 am Post subject:
Re: LILO Problem (mndrk 10.0)
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:55:48 +0200, Jug wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I ve just installed Linux-Mandrake 10.0 on a laptop (Centrino, 512 RAM,
93 Go HD...) and I ve encountered a major problem at the starting.
LILO doesn't seem to work, it only prints "L" and then nothing happens. It
is really annoying cause I can't access XP anymore ...
Thank you for any help you could provide.
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I can only offer a little advice by asking questions
(answers like "I don't know" are not usefull)
(1) towards the end of install where did you tell it to install the Lilo
boot loader to ? Was it the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive ?
(2) Do you have a bootable XP CD ? you know you can restor the Windows
boot loader with it.
(3) further to (2) above [eg. restor XP) you could then try a re-install
of Mandrake (over writing the previous) - BUT - this time at the VERY
FIRST splash screen hit the F1 key (its written at bottem) and then type
the word
expert
And then press Enter
NOTE: using the "expert" method is not very hard, so do not be afrade to
use it - BUT - by using expert you have much more control of the
installation AND will be able to ensure that the Lilo bootloader gets
installed to the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive (typically known as
/dev/hda ) and not get installed to any Logical Partitions that are within
a Extended partition.
NOTE: usually installing almost any Linux distro will give you the option
to setup Multi-boot with Win/Linux - some like MDK can do it almost
automatically - some other distros require that you select this option
PS: if you have not found it yet ? a much better place to as spacific
questions about Mandrake are :- alt.os.linux.mandrake
Best of luck, yours John (using MDK since v.6.0 upto v.10.1) |
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Jug
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 2
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:00 am Post subject:
Re: LILO Problem (mndrk 10.0)
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"John Coombes" <nospam@anitspammers.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.06.04.03.21.786147@anitspammers.com...
| Quote: | On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:55:48 +0200, Jug wrote:
Hi,
I ve just installed Linux-Mandrake 10.0 on a laptop (Centrino, 512 RAM,
93 Go HD...) and I ve encountered a major problem at the starting.
LILO doesn't seem to work, it only prints "L" and then nothing happens.
It
is really annoying cause I can't access XP anymore ...
Thank you for any help you could provide.
I can only offer a little advice by asking questions
(answers like "I don't know" are not usefull)
(1) towards the end of install where did you tell it to install the Lilo
boot loader to ? Was it the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive ?
(2) Do you have a bootable XP CD ? you know you can restor the Windows
boot loader with it.
(3) further to (2) above [eg. restor XP) you could then try a re-install
of Mandrake (over writing the previous) - BUT - this time at the VERY
FIRST splash screen hit the F1 key (its written at bottem) and then type
the word
expert
And then press Enter
NOTE: using the "expert" method is not very hard, so do not be afrade to
use it - BUT - by using expert you have much more control of the
installation AND will be able to ensure that the Lilo bootloader gets
installed to the MBR of the primary (first) Hard Drive (typically known as
/dev/hda ) and not get installed to any Logical Partitions that are within
a Extended partition.
NOTE: usually installing almost any Linux distro will give you the option
to setup Multi-boot with Win/Linux - some like MDK can do it almost
automatically - some other distros require that you select this option
PS: if you have not found it yet ? a much better place to as spacific
questions about Mandrake are :- alt.os.linux.mandrake
Best of luck, yours John (using MDK since v.6.0 upto v.10.1)
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(1) MBR
(2) Actually I did restore XP (repair option) with my CD (I don t know how
to restore the Boot Loader) :
2.1 Most of the files were saved (Postgre doesn t work anymore)
2.1 This morning XP doesn t seem to work again (black screen)
(3) I will do that this time
(4) My XP CD seems only to work when the whole HD is allowed to XP, I had to
delete Linux partitions and reextend the Windows one to restore ...
Thx for your help |
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renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:
Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?
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Thanks Ray,
| Quote: | Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.
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Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:
Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found
I'm not sure what that means though.
Paul |
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renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:
Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?
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Thanks Ray,
| Quote: | Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.
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Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:
Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found
I'm not sure what that means though.
Paul |
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renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:
Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?
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Thanks Ray,
| Quote: | Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.
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Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:
Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found
I'm not sure what that means though.
Paul |
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renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:
Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?
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Thanks Ray,
| Quote: | Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.
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Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:
Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found
I'm not sure what that means though.
Paul |
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renewontime dot com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 18
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:
Re: How to tell if it's PCMCIA 1 or 2?
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Thanks Ray,
| Quote: | Try the 'dmesg' command... e.g. 'dmesg | less'.
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Only lines that appear to refer to PCMCIA are these:
Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found
I'm not sure what that means though.
Paul |
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