Google Bobbles NSA wiretap searches

John · *nix forums addict Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 59

On Wed, 03 May 2006 02:21:18 -0400, responder wrote:
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Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

John wrote:

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

responder wrote:

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

John wrote:

John · *nix forums addict Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 59

One possibility is to have every US citizen send a copy of this article:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

to their congressman, asking for comments on each paragraph.

Maybe congress will try to find a way to re-assert its constitutional
authority. Or maybe they will try to find a way to limit the scope of the
mechanism that the Administration is using to ignore or interpret laws.

Thinking people everywhere are pulling for you, obviously.

John · *nix forums addict Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 59

On Fri, 05 May 2006 22:22:38 +0200, Matthias Kirchhart wrote:

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

(John wrote:)

I am top posting this because (in a backwards sort of way) it seems to
make sense to me to do it this way. Please excuse. The complete text of
your preceding message appears at the end, as part of the message template
that I have started using. I invite others (within or without US borders)
to utilize any benefits of this experience for the purposes of regaining
control of the United States' government, and in particular, the United
States' military. I have sent some e-mails and am exploring the best ways
available to me to continue to try to make a difference.

For those who might claim that this is advocacy and Off Topic, I say no;
what I am trying to give is facts and some hopefully intelligent
understanding of those facts so that we all at least have the chance of
being "on the same page". Read the entire thread, please, before making
any such accusations.

For those who might claim that this is not about comp.os.linux.security
and therefore Off Topic, I say no; While there are MITM supercomputers
reading, data-mining and modifying communications, there is no security.
This must be stopped.

Those who think that encryption of data transmissions can mitigate the
threat are right in only a very small way. Those who think encryption
cannot be broken in real time by the supercomputers that the US government
has now installed and on-line are probably very naive and ignorant of the
realities. And I am very sorry (truly) to say that to anyone who might
have been living in a false sense of security. But I have investigated.
And from evidence that I have seen myself, I believe that is true.

I am struggling with details of what would seem a simple task, namely to
get every (or at least many) US citizen(s) to send a copy ... (Please read
below.) I personally abhor those e-mails that start with "Send this to
everyone that you know". I don't even believe they are remotely
effective, except to fill the endless empty hours of the "Idles" who
endlessly IM each other on cracked PC's and phones. And I have no
intention of spamming every e-mail address I can "glom".

Instead, I am using the template and sending personal messages with
personal greetings to people I have known over the years, and using my own
real name that they will recognize. I am not sending willy-nilly to lists
of people, but only to one or two people who well know each other, at a
time. If anyone else reading here had investigated as I did, then you
could each cite your personal experiences and beliefs based on facts as I
have. I will try, as time allows, to help anyone verify for themselves
exactly what I have found. If I do that for you, you should expect to be
willing to be a relay for that information to others, or a writer of
wiki's, or some such. I cannot be writing personal replies with the same
content, and I am not prepared to be hosting any web presence for this
purpose. You may use the e-mail address (with a bit of human
interpretation) in the sig to contact me.

Please be aware that my waking hours are already more than 100% allocated,
and new requests are only processed by re-prioritizing tasks. If you
demand my attention, you are bumping something else (that may really be
more urgently important to me, personally).

**** _ LISTEN UP _ (Please) ****

There are Copyrights and time limits involved.

http://www.boston.com/help/bostoncom_info/copyright/

It would be completely stupid and useless to be complaining about illegal
acts by using illegal copies and/or illegal acts. Copyrights are clearly
stipulated and must be respected. You can download one copy and you can
print one copy without charge. If you want permission to print or publish
more than that one copy, then you need to go here.

https://bostonglobe.com/newsroom/OtherServices/reprints.stm

There is no cost with linking to the page. The page expires 30 days after
initial publication.

Now, please note that these are the copyright pages from boston.com (The
Boston Globe). The article referenced in the original link,

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

shows a copyright notice from The New York Times. Get and save your one
copy now. Please.

The on-line availability of this article expires, as I make it, on
Tuesday, April 30, 2006.

It costs $750.00 (USD) to keep this article alive on-line (hosted) for one
year. I don't have the funds for this. If someone can and wants to do
that, please do and make the link public.

**** Now, printing your copy, ... ****

I don't until now print anything. So I got a printer and set it up with
CUPS. (Slick!) :)

I get the link up in Firefox, and then save it to disk. OK do-over.

At the bottom of the page is a link for "PRINTER FRIENDLY". Click that
link and save that page. Open Open Office 2 and open the file. It is 8
pages. You want footers with page numbers. You can get this from help:

You can also choose Format - Page, click the Header or Footer tab, and
then select Header on or Footer on.

From there it's easier, read the help, to put in the page numbers. There,
now you have your legal one copy. Print it. If you don't like it, fix
it, shred the first copy and print the good version.

You or I cannot ask for legal stuff with illegal stuff. Reality. Get
used to it. Find someone to pay the $750.00 to host the page for a year.
Unless, of course, you all think we can do this in 30 days. 24 days, now.

**** Look, I'm sorry but it is late and I am "running out of steam".
Please know that I take this very seriously, and that I am asking you all,
all readers to take this seriously. There is much more that needs to be
said. I cannot do that, now if ever. Please help ****

Here is the draft template I am using for my e-mail requests. Suggestions
will be appreciated. Answers and responses may or may not happen in a
timely manner. When I stop making noise you will know that the FBI has
taken me away to be tortured. I hope that doesn't happen.

Thank you John.

Dear Correspondent,

I need to ask for your active and personal help. The Administration of
US President George W. Bush has claimed for itself sweeping and
unchecked powers unlike anything in our history. I believe it is
essential to re-establish effective checks and balances within the US
government, and as quickly as possible.

I have done some research and have personally seen convincing evidence
that the Administration is actually modifying transmissions of news
matter to hide coverage from readers in the United States. The
research that I did involved news coverage of alleged widespread
illegal wiretaps by AT&T and the NSA. Pages from Google News were
modified in transit to remove references to related articles, and to
disable links to the news content.

Please read the article linked below, as it gives lots of background,
and reasons for us all to be very concerned. I have copied below a
suggestion that I believe is very well taken. I hope you agree, and
that you will help.

==================

One possibility is to have every US citizen send a copy of this article:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

to their congressman, asking for comments on each paragraph.

Maybe congress will try to find a way to re-assert its constitutional
authority. Or maybe they will try to find a way to limit the scope of
the mechanism that the Administration is using to ignore or interpret
laws.

Thinking people everywhere are pulling for you, obviously.

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Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

Matthias Kirchhart wrote:

Matthias Kirchhart · *nix forums beginner Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

responder wrote:

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

Matthias Kirchhart wrote:

[cut the crap]

Too bad that you are personally offended, Matthias. You helped before,
but now you are fully engulfed in personal discord. Your opinions and
input are not relevant to the issues at hand.

You are not a party to it. I thanked you before for the help that you
offered. I asked for help and you offered stupidity and insults.

Get this:

This is not a flame war, Stupid.

Send me e-mail if you need clarification. Else consider this closed.

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

responder wrote:

M. Trimble · *nix forums beginner Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 35

responder wrote:

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

M. Trimble wrote:

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

Please let me give this one more attempt. The software at whatever level
does not seem to have been friendly to what I wanted to present to you.
It needed more spaces and blank lines. This has more spaces and lines.

Russell E. Owen · *nix forums Guru Wannabe Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 117

Matthias Kirchhart wrote:

Everyone can protect his information by using encryption.

I don't work for NSA (I am
retired), and I have only had access to limited third party reports.
But John (I believe) posted earlier a link to an article on slashdot
that described some equipment in use. I believe it was called "Narus
6400" or some such. If I understood and remember correctly, and if I
am saying it right, this is something like a massively parallel
supercomputer. I can't say and don't actually believe that _any_
code-breaking system could be 100% effective. But I do think that it
would be a mistake for anyone to believe that any encryption would be
safe from these systems.

A particular reason that I say this is that my research gives me
credible reason to believe that the NSA equipment is acting as MITM
(man in the middle). Combined with the reported or suspected data
mining capabilities, there is really no reasonable expectation that
they NSA cannot break virtually any code, and in real time. Certainly
I would expect this is the case for the most common and widely
available "prepackaged" systems (say SSL and the like). And I am not
an expert in encryption, and I do know enough that there are some very
good systems available even for desktop class machines. But I think
that it is a disservice to tell anyone that encryption will safeguard
their communications. I believe that I know enough to know that this
is not true, and is a very dangerous assumption.

Of course, I do use encryption and encourage others to do so. But I do
not believe that protects my data from NSA. And I think it is wrong to
give anyone a false sense of security that their data is safe from NSA
simply because of encryption, alone. In fact I feel that it is
important to raise the awareness in the public of the apparently true
extent of the NSA's ability to invade privacy that has until now always
been legally and constitutionally protected.

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