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Michael Schnell
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject:
Re: shared libs
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Is there no tool that can trim down e.g. glibc for a given set of user
programs, eliminating all parts that never are called ?
-Michael |
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sivam
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 12
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:09 am Post subject:
Re: SIM Manager in Qtopia Phone Edition
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Yes..u can write to SIM using that. |
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Guest
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
Re: Porting Bluetooth Stack in Arm-Linux into VxWorks
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Hi,
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ...... is it so ??? i need to understand more regarding
this.
Could you pls, kindly give me a link of the document regarding this .
It would be very nice of you .
Expecting ur link/doc,
karthik bala guru |
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Guest
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
Re: Porting Bluetooth Stack in Arm-Linux into VxWorks
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Hi,
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ...... is it so ??? i need to understand more regarding
this.
Could you pls, kindly give me a link of the document regarding this .
It would be very nice of you .
Expecting ur link/doc,
karthik bala guru |
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Robert Kaiser
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 34
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject:
Re: shared libs
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In article <421B4564.90309@hotmail.com>,
Michael Schnell <mschnell_at_lumino_dot_de@hotmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | Is there no tool that can trim down e.g. glibc for a given set of user
programs, eliminating all parts that never are called ?
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I seem to recall that there is (was?) such a tool, but I've
certainly never seen it at work. Would be nice if someone who
knows more could share his info with us.
Anyone ?
Rob
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Robert Kaiser email: rkaiser AT sysgo DOT com
SYSGO AG http://www.elinos.com
Klein-Winternheim / Germany http://www.sysgo.com |
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SAber Khamooshi
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:46 am Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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yes
I couldn't boot it as a bootable DOS device !
maybe DOS doesn't support USB FLASH !
"Michael Schnell" <mschnell_at_lumino_dot_de@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nuude2-l5t.ln1@viruswall.lumino.de...
| Quote: | SAber Khamooshi wrote:
yes
ops I test with USB mass Storage device
1) I tested with 128MB Zoltrix USB mass storage device ( USB 1.1)
2) 512MB KINGSTON USB mass storage device (USB 2)
my bios supports usb 2.
I set my first boot device to
USB-HDD
but PC didn't boot with linux
what is wrong ?!
Did you try to format the USB as a bootable DOS device. Doing this should
sow whether you face a Linux problem or a BIOS problem.
-Michael |
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SAber Khamooshi
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:09 am Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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Hi
I added SCSI Support , SCSCI EMulation , SCSI Disk Support
+ Host Side USB , OHCI , UHCI , USB Mass Storage ...
I use 2.6.8.1 Kernel
but couldn't boot it !
"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd1av5k.93b.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
| Quote: | On 17 Feb 2005 20:21:33 -0800, linnix <me@linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
I guess you have to write the boot loader code for USB support. The
generic boot loader only supports Floppy or IDE devices.
Actually, calls to the BIOS will read the CF. That's how scsi drives are
booted. The boot loader calls the bios to read the rest of the kernel in.
As far as the boot loader is concerned, it'll read just like an IDE drive.
If the BIOS supports CF, then all you need is CF support in your kernel.
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SAber Khamooshi
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:10 am Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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is there any patch for LiLo or grub to boot USB Mass Storage ?!
( I used grub , Fedora Core 2)
thanks
"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd1auvp.93b.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
| Quote: | On 17 Feb 2005 20:21:33 -0800, linnix <me@linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
Uday Mullangi wrote:
"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd17oot.s8e.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:57:19 +0330, SAber Khamooshi
khaamooshi@yahoo.com
wrote:
yes
ops I test with USB mass Storage device
1) I tested with 128MB Zoltrix USB mass storage device ( USB 1.1)
2) 512MB KINGSTON USB mass storage device (USB 2)
my bios supports usb 2.
I set my first boot device to
USB-HDD
but PC didn't boot with linux
what is wrong ?!
The kernel will have to have the CF driver in the kernel, not as a
module.
This might not be correct as the BIOS is unable to get into the
loader
stage itself.
It doesnt matter if the kernel is compiled with the required driver
as a
module or not! It has not
reached to that stage.
Right. Lilo or whatever has to have CF support as well. |
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SAber Khamooshi
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:12 am Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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my bios supports USB-ZIP , USB-HDD
how Do I write the boot loader code for USB support ?!
thanks
"linnix" <me@linnix.info-for.us> wrote in message
news:1108700493.891639.307820@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
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Uday Mullangi wrote:
"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd17oot.s8e.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:57:19 +0330, SAber Khamooshi
khaamooshi@yahoo.com
wrote:
yes
ops I test with USB mass Storage device
1) I tested with 128MB Zoltrix USB mass storage device ( USB 1.1)
2) 512MB KINGSTON USB mass storage device (USB 2)
my bios supports usb 2.
I set my first boot device to
USB-HDD
but PC didn't boot with linux
what is wrong ?!
The kernel will have to have the CF driver in the kernel, not as a
module.
This might not be correct as the BIOS is unable to get into the
loader
stage itself.
It doesnt matter if the kernel is compiled with the required driver
as a
module or not! It has not
reached to that stage.
I guess you have to write the boot loader code for USB support. The
generic boot loader only supports Floppy or IDE devices.
Uday
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SAber Khamooshi
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:22 am Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd17oot.s8e.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
| Quote: | On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:57:19 +0330, SAber Khamooshi <khaamooshi@yahoo.com
wrote:
yes
ops I test with USB mass Storage device
1) I tested with 128MB Zoltrix USB mass storage device ( USB 1.1)
2) 512MB KINGSTON USB mass storage device (USB 2)
my bios supports usb 2.
I set my first boot device to
USB-HDD
but PC didn't boot with linux
what is wrong ?!
The kernel will have to have the CF driver in the kernel, not as a module.
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my kernel is monolithic so I didn't choose anything as a Module in the
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Michael Schnell
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 110
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:42 am Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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SAber Khamooshi wrote:
| Quote: | yes
I couldn't boot it as a bootable DOS device !
maybe DOS doesn't support USB FLASH !
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DOS accesses all drives through the BIOS, so it does not know whether
it's USB or not.
Do you remember remote booting DOS e.g. from a Novell-Server or using
BootP on a Linux/Unix Server ?
Here you use an Ethernet card that has a PROM that installs as a BIOS
extension (you know: before booting from a disk, the BIOS calls all
functions it finds that identify by a special signature at one of
several addresses in the 16 Bit address range.)
The Ethernet card BIOS extension (with the help of the server) converts
a file on the server into a drive on the remote machine. Unmodified DOS
boots from this fake drive just fine. In the autoexec.bat on that remote
drive you install the network access software (client) for DOS and now
you can access any data on the server.
Linux can't work that way, as a BIOS drive can only be accessed in 16
bit mode that Linux does not support. So Linux needs to install it's own
hardware access to the (USB) drive, while DOS does not need anything
like that.
Thus the Linux boot process is much more complicated. Here at first a 16
Bit program needs to load the next stage into RAM via the BIOS interface
and this stage needs to install 32 bit drivers for Linux use.
If you say you can't even boot DOS from the USB device something is
wrong in a very early stage, that has not much to do with booting _Linux_
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TCS
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 49
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:27:43 +0330, SAber Khamooshi <khaamooshi@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
I added SCSI Support , SCSCI EMulation , SCSI Disk Support
+ Host Side USB , OHCI , UHCI , USB Mass Storage ...
I use 2.6.8.1 Kernel
but couldn't boot it !
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Support isn't enough; your boot media can't be a loadable module, it has
to be compiled into the kernel. |
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TCS
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 49
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject:
Re: I Can't boot Linux through my CF!
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:28:49 +0330, SAber Khamooshi <khaamooshi@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | is there any patch for LiLo or grub to boot USB Mass Storage ?!
( I used grub , Fedora Core 2)
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If your bios supports booting of CF then it'll provide what looks like an
IDE device for long enough to load the kernel. Lilo need never know that
it's bios calls are getting data from the CF.
| Quote: | "TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd1auvp.93b.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
On 17 Feb 2005 20:21:33 -0800, linnix <me@linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
Uday Mullangi wrote:
"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd17oot.s8e.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:57:19 +0330, SAber Khamooshi
khaamooshi@yahoo.com
wrote:
yes
ops I test with USB mass Storage device
1) I tested with 128MB Zoltrix USB mass storage device ( USB 1.1)
2) 512MB KINGSTON USB mass storage device (USB 2)
my bios supports usb 2.
I set my first boot device to
USB-HDD
but PC didn't boot with linux
what is wrong ?!
The kernel will have to have the CF driver in the kernel, not as a
module.
This might not be correct as the BIOS is unable to get into the
loader
stage itself.
It doesnt matter if the kernel is compiled with the required driver
as a
module or not! It has not
reached to that stage.
Right. Lilo or whatever has to have CF support as well. |
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Guest
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:
Re: Did anyone rescue the source code to the release of Lineo Embedix?
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It happens !! :)
karthik bala guru |
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Michael Schnell
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 110
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:21 am Post subject:
Re: sched_yield() problems????
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| Quote: | I need one of the threads to pause for 35 ms
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No pure Linux can guarantee this. Now and again you might see thread
start delays of several 100 msec. Device drivers work much better but
there still is no guarantee at all. This is "soft realtime": works fine
for multi media and similar stuff but it's not reliable if something
desasterous happens if a deadline is not met.
If you need better accuracy you need to add something like RTAI.
-Michael |
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