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The Doctor
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: ELF or a.out? Reply with quote

In article <42a69cbc$0$24372$626a14ce@news.free.fr>,
Miod Vallat <miod@online.fr> wrote:
Quote:
Let the binutils list know. They think
BSD still uses a.out and never changed.

Care to explain why there are so many *BSD ELF configurations in
binutils, then? The fact that old BSD a.out configurations still exist
for compatibility with older systems does not mean they are choosen by
default.

Still, I cannot stand it when LinSUCKers think
BSDs are still a.out .
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The Doctor
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: ELF or a.out? Reply with quote

In article <42a69cbc$0$24372$626a14ce@news.free.fr>,
Miod Vallat <miod@online.fr> wrote:
Quote:
Let the binutils list know. They think
BSD still uses a.out and never changed.

Care to explain why there are so many *BSD ELF configurations in
binutils, then? The fact that old BSD a.out configurations still exist
for compatibility with older systems does not mean they are choosen by
default.

Still, I cannot stand it when LinSUCKers think
BSDs are still a.out .
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
nk.ca started 1 June 1995
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The Doctor
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: ELF or a.out? Reply with quote

In article <42a69cbc$0$24372$626a14ce@news.free.fr>,
Miod Vallat <miod@online.fr> wrote:
Quote:
Let the binutils list know. They think
BSD still uses a.out and never changed.

Care to explain why there are so many *BSD ELF configurations in
binutils, then? The fact that old BSD a.out configurations still exist
for compatibility with older systems does not mean they are choosen by
default.

Still, I cannot stand it when LinSUCKers think
BSDs are still a.out .
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
nk.ca started 1 June 1995
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The Doctor
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: ELF or a.out? Reply with quote

In article <42a69cbc$0$24372$626a14ce@news.free.fr>,
Miod Vallat <miod@online.fr> wrote:
Quote:
Let the binutils list know. They think
BSD still uses a.out and never changed.

Care to explain why there are so many *BSD ELF configurations in
binutils, then? The fact that old BSD a.out configurations still exist
for compatibility with older systems does not mean they are choosen by
default.

Still, I cannot stand it when LinSUCKers think
BSDs are still a.out .
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
nk.ca started 1 June 1995
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The Doctor
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: ELF or a.out? Reply with quote

In article <42a69cbc$0$24372$626a14ce@news.free.fr>,
Miod Vallat <miod@online.fr> wrote:
Quote:
Let the binutils list know. They think
BSD still uses a.out and never changed.

Care to explain why there are so many *BSD ELF configurations in
binutils, then? The fact that old BSD a.out configurations still exist
for compatibility with older systems does not mean they are choosen by
default.

Still, I cannot stand it when LinSUCKers think
BSDs are still a.out .
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
nk.ca started 1 June 1995
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Shane Almeida
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 28

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: active ftp and mpd with pf and nat Reply with quote

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:40 GMT, dave wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone have a ruleset for allowing active ftp connections out from
behind a nat, and mpd vpn connections to a server behind a nat? Both of
these setups i'm trying to get with no success.

These rules will let clients behind the firewall do active FTP.
set skip on { lo0, $int_if }
nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> ($ext_if)
rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port 21 -> 127.0.0.1 port 8021

If the firewall has an FTP server, you might want this instead. It will
skip the ftp-proxy for connections to the firewall.
set skip on { lo0, $int_if }
nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> ($ext_if)
rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to ! ($int_if) port 21 -> 127.0.0.1 port 8021
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Marc Espie
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: honeyd will not start on OpenBSD 3.7 Reply with quote

In article <1121616714.705839.204840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
mr_scary <petermatulis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hi. I installed honeyd-1.0 by source on OpenBSD 3.7 and I cannot get
it to start. The output on screen when started with root user:

maybe there's a reason the port hasn't been updated from 0.8 yet ?
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mr_scary
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: honeyd will not start on OpenBSD 3.7 Reply with quote

Could be. As a general rule I only use packages and ports but I made
an exception here due to the age of the current honeyd port and the new
features available in 1.0.
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Chris Croughton
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Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: VAX OpenBSD packages Reply with quote

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:44:51 +0100, Greg Hennessy
<me@privacy.org> wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:48:44 +0100, Chris Croughton <chris@keristor.net
wrote:

I might do that on one of my more powerful Linux boxes (probably the
Gentoo one, that's an Athlon 1800XP with oodles of memory and doesn't
usually do very much). If I can fathom out how to get SIMH to map my
drives into its space...

Strange, I've never had problems using it before.

It's just that I haven't really gotten into SIMH configuration yet. I
have a PDP-11 emulator and Unix-7 on my system, just haven't really
done more than play a bit.

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NetBSD rather than OpenBSD? Why? (If this is a flamewar question, and
I suspect it might be, feel free to respond in email or point at a
better discussion place).

No flamewars, just pure practicality, netbsd can be cross built for any of
its supported platforms on just about anything which is even vaguely posix
compliant (I have heard rumours about Cygwin being used).

Ah, I see. Whereas I assume this is not possible (or at least is more
difficult) with OpenBSD?

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This USENIX paper will give you all the gory detail

http://www.usenix.org/events/bsdcon03/tech/full_papers/mewburn/mewburn_html/index.html

Hmm, not quite, I can't see where to get the source and took chain from
in the first place. Or how to write the result to a CD for
installation. But it's probably there somewhere...

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I have moved without major difficulty between all 3 major *BSD variants
depending on what I needed to do at the time. All have their place.

Trying to figure out a use for Dragonfly ATM Smile.

Catching trout? <g>

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I don't know at the moment, one of the recent ones (so 3.5 or later).
I'll be picking it up on Sunday.

Doing an upgrade is not the friendliest of processes, but if you follow the
docs and notes its pretty straight forward.

OK. I'll be asking if I get stuck <g>..

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Actually, I have tried one of the BSDs before, I don't remember which
one, on a machine I later had to scrap (nothing to do with the OS, major
hardware failure because of a PSU which decided that 8 volts was a
close enough approximation to a 5V supply!). It reminded me of Unix as
it used to be,

Those were my thoughts when I had a Popeye moment with Linux a few years
back. Simple, consistent and a apart from some fun with Sys V muscle
memory, a joy to use.

I can switch, just as I do with Windows

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1st used OpenBSD in anger because of PF, when PF started appearing on Free
and Net started utilising those too.

Ah, that's right, it's why I was trying BSD, I was thinking of using it
as a firewall. I didn't eventually, my Vigor 2300 does a good enough
job (and is smaller and uses a lot less power).

Quote:
Digital Unix or whatever they called it on the Alphas, though, that was
a horrible variant...

Agreed. OSF/1 was never quite fish or fowl.

I dunno, I think it was pretty foul <g>.

It was OSF/1 when I first used it, then they changed the name. At least
once...

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Greg Hennessy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: VAX OpenBSD packages Reply with quote

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:23:36 +0100, Chris Croughton <chris@keristor.net>
wrote:


Quote:
No flamewars, just pure practicality, netbsd can be cross built for any of
its supported platforms on just about anything which is even vaguely posix
compliant (I have heard rumours about Cygwin being used).

Ah, I see. Whereas I assume this is not possible (or at least is more
difficult) with OpenBSD?

This USENIX paper will give you all the gory detail

http://www.usenix.org/events/bsdcon03/tech/full_papers/mewburn/mewburn_html/index.html

Hmm, not quite, I can't see where to get the source and took chain from
in the first place.

You'll see :-)

Quote:
Or how to write the result to a CD for
installation. But it's probably there somewhere...

I'd be inclined to pull down one of the HEAD snapshots and take it from
there.


ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/HEAD/200507260000Z/vax/INSTALL.html


Quote:

I have moved without major difficulty between all 3 major *BSD variants
depending on what I needed to do at the time. All have their place.

Trying to figure out a use for Dragonfly ATM Smile.

Catching trout? <g

LMAO! That's one use Matt Dillon hasnt found for it yet I bet.
Must check if there's a /dev/hook.

Quote:

I don't know at the moment, one of the recent ones (so 3.5 or later).
I'll be picking it up on Sunday.

Doing an upgrade is not the friendliest of processes, but if you follow the
docs and notes its pretty straight forward.

OK. I'll be asking if I get stuck <g>..

:-)


Quote:
1st used OpenBSD in anger because of PF, when PF started appearing on Free
and Net started utilising those too.

Ah, that's right, it's why I was trying BSD, I was thinking of using it
as a firewall. I didn't eventually, my Vigor 2300 does a good enough
job (and is smaller and uses a lot less power).

True, if it was just packet filtering, it would be complete overkill.
However by the time one has squid, snort,ntop , cacti and other goodies on
there, even half a gig is a bit of a squeeze.

Something like www.pfsense.com on a Nokia IP110 would fit the small, sweet
and frugal bit though.

Quote:
Digital Unix or whatever they called it on the Alphas, though, that was
a horrible variant...

Agreed. OSF/1 was never quite fish or fowl.

I dunno, I think it was pretty foul <g>.

LOL

Quote:

It was OSF/1 when I first used it, then they changed the name. At least
once...


I think that was to disguise it's less than humble origins.


greg
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Shane Almeida
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005
Posts: 28

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Mail forwarding question Reply with quote

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:54:33 GMT, kwg wrote:
Quote:
Thanks for the replies! I'll look into that. For clerification (if it
helps) I was hoping to get all this sent to the gmail account and let
someone else worry about storage Smile

You might have some luck with this: http://www.marklyon.org/gmail/
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