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John-Paul Stewart
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 Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject:
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Walther Mathieu wrote:
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Since I have other things to do and canīt dedicate all my free time
to solve the riddles of cryptic/enigmatic/whatever software I gave up.
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Agreed. The site I mentioned is not the easiest to understand, and the
software itself is even more enigmatic. Oh well...it was worth a shot. |
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Toni Grass
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject:
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Walther Mathieu wrote:
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| Quote: | At the point where there appeared a built-in 1GB barrier in cdrecord
I have quit experimenting with IDE DVD-writers on SCSI-IDE adaptors.
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Probably you should try to set a shell variable like me (for bash):
CDR_SECURITY=8:dvd,clone:sparc-sun-solaris2,i386-pc[....]
Works perfect.
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Walther Mathieu
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:55 am Post subject:
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John-Paul Stewart wrote:
| Quote: | Walther Mathieu wrote:
That depends on which version of cdrecord you're using, AIUI. There's a
'cdrecord-prodvd' package that should handle the larger media. The
author's site for cdrecord is at:
ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/
Packages from other sources may have different limitations.
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believe me: I got the very latest version from exactly that source.
It is said to be free for non-commercial use but there are built-in
limitations (license expires from time to time, demo 1GB barrier).
I asked the author about how much a commercial license would be,
but did not even get any answer.
And whatever I tried - the 1 GB limit stayed with me.
Since I have other things to do and canīt dedicate all my free time
to solve the riddles of cryptic/enigmatic/whatever software I gave up.
If I can afford it Iīd like to _pay_ for software that works for me,
and I canīt stand software I can get for free that makes me work for it.
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John-Paul Stewart
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject:
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Walther Mathieu wrote:
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At the point where there appeared a built-in 1GB barrier in cdrecord
I have quit experimenting with IDE DVD-writers on SCSI-IDE adaptors.
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That depends on which version of cdrecord you're using, AIUI. There's a
'cdrecord-prodvd' package that should handle the larger media. The
author's site for cdrecord is at:
ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/
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Walther Mathieu
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:27 am Post subject:
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Norm Dresner wrote:
| Quote: | "Michael Laajanen" <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45healF6qr3pU1@individual.net...
HI;
But I think a good IDE-SCSI converter is a better solution in the long
run, should give better options.
Beware. Not every IDE-SCSI bridge will handle CD/DVD drives. Some do,
some don't. Sorry, I don't have access to the lab that has the
equipment any more to tell you which is which.
Norm
(being the OP) I must second that. Go and search forums.nekochan.net... |
Btw., the RO problem vanished with another (new) DVD-RAM media :-)
Now for SCSI-IDE adaptors: pretty good a solution for harddrives.
I have tried Acard 7720U in SGI O2 - didnīt work, but an out-of-prod
Yamaha adaptor did. The Acard 7722 is said to be especially suited
for exchangeable media (CD writers and the likes).
I myself did not try one yet.
At the point where there appeared a built-in 1GB barrier in cdrecord
I have quit experimenting with IDE DVD-writers on SCSI-IDE adaptors.
Native (narrow) SCSI DVD-RAM drives AFAIK canīt copy DVD movies - but
that is not what I was intending to do. Iīll leave that to someone else.
Since DVD-RAM backups data with pure IRIX this is my solution of choice.
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Norm Dresner
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject:
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"Michael Laajanen" <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:45healF6qr3pU1@individual.net...
| Quote: | HI;
But I think a good IDE-SCSI converter is a better solution in the long
run, should give better options.
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Beware. Not every IDE-SCSI bridge will handle CD/DVD drives. Some do, some
don't. Sorry, I don't have access to the lab that has the equipment any
more to tell you which is which.
Norm |
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Michael Laajanen
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HI;
Gary Heston wrote:
| Quote: | In article <dsq9j9$o49$2@sunnews.cern.ch>,
Zdenek SEKERA <zdenek.sekera@cern.ch> wrote:
[ ... ]
I naively thought I'll be able to find a place to buy lf-d201
(because I'm interested in your backup solution for my Indy
it also has 50 pin scsi) but extensive googling found only
a lot of reviews but no place to buy.
eBay doesn't have it either.
Any idea where I could get it?
Try http://www.zsource.com/PRODUCTS/Panasonic/Panasonic_LF-D201/panasonic_lf-d201.html
They pretend to have "special pricing" on it.
Thanks andbest regards,
Impressed, I dit not know that there where any SCSI CD/DVD roms anymore  |
But I think a good IDE-SCSI converter is a better solution in the long
run, should give better options.
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Toni Grass
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Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
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| Quote: | I am unable to findout what connector has that AEC-7720U
of acard but I think it's a safe bet it will be 68 or 80 pin.
The 50 is so old that I doubet anybody makes it.
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AEC.7720U has 50 pin SCSI. Believe me this is not 'so old' that nobody
does remember.
have a look here: <http://www.acard.com/>
or here (as I saw 'CH' in the email address)
<http://www.acard-germany.de/produkte_aec7720u.html>
| Quote: | From: Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at
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Pioneer DVR-100 is much cheeper and works perfect - but the best
converter for this purpose seems to be the AEC 7722 which is LVD. I use
it with my Octanes (one of them has a cardcage with LVD controller), it
works either SE or LVD.
Teach me, please: what is LVD & SE ??
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Low Voltage Differential & Single Ended
see e.g. <http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/ultra2_scsi_lvd.html>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI>
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Zdenek SEKERA
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Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen@yahoo.com> writes:
Yes, this is the idea I am pursuing now. I know about
acard, but all tha boils down to a simple question of
that SCSI pin connector. The Indy has 50pin (that
how that thread started) and what attracted me on the original
LF-D201 solution was that that drive apparently has 50 pin scsi.
I am unable to findout what connector has that AEC-7720U
of acard but I think it's a safe bet it will be 68 or 80 pin.
The 50 is so old that I doubet anybody makes it.
There exist however, 68/80 to 50 pin convertors, unfortunately
those that I know are all internal cards, not external
boxes which would be a solution. I am not sure how could
one use those internal cards in this case.
Or am I so far from the reality that there is a simple
solution that I simply don't see? I'd appreciate any
insight/advice in this.
From: Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at>
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| Quote: | Pioneer DVR-100 is much cheeper and works perfect - but the best
converter for this purpose seems to be the AEC 7722 which is LVD. I use
it with my Octanes (one of them has a cardcage with LVD controller), it
works either SE or LVD.
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Teach me, please: what is LVD & SE ??
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
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I found that reference during my googling, but you get nowhere following
up those links, unfortunately.
Thanks to all for the help, I appreciate it!
---Zdenek
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LHC Computing Grid Project | tel: +41-22-767.1068
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Gary Heston
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Toni Grass
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject:
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Michael Laajanen wrote:
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| Quote: | SCSI CD drives is more or less impossible to find, but a super Plextor
for IDE is easy and about $120 add a convert for $70.
I would assume that a brand new Plextor Like the 755 would work very
nice with a IDE to SCSI converter from Acard(like the AEC-7720U).
[...] |
Pioneer DVR-100 is much cheeper and works perfect - but the best
converter for this purpose seems to be the AEC 7722 which is LVD. I use
it with my Octanes (one of them has a cardcage with LVD controller), it
works either SE or LVD.
I also tried AEC-7720U but was not that happy with it, but probably the
support for Plextor is better than for Pioneer or Toshiba (I also tested
R5372).
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Michael Laajanen
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject:
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HI,
Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
| Quote: | sekera@pcitdi10.cern.ch (Zdenek SEKERA) writes:
Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at> writes:
Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
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| Quote: | I naively thought I'll be able to find a place to buy lf-d201
(because I'm interested in your backup solution for my Indy,
it also has 50 pin scsi) but extensive googling found only
a lot of reviews but no place to buy.
eBay doesn't have it either.
Any idea where I could get it?
Thanks and best regards,
---Zdenek
SCSI CD drives is more or less impossible to find, but a super Plextor |
for IDE is easy and about $120 add a convert for $70.
I would assume that a brand new Plextor Like the 755 would work very
nice with a IDE to SCSI converter from Acard(like the AEC-7720U).
See links below
http://www.acard.com.tw/english/fb0101.jsp?type1_idno=2
http://www.acard.com.tw/english/fb01-product.jsp?idno_no=23&prod_no=AEC-7720U%20(Support%20ATAPI%20Device)&type1_title=SCSIDE%20Bridge&type1_idno=2
http://www.plextor.be/products/px-755a.asp?choice=PX-755A
/michael
PS note that they work for IDE disks aswell!!! |
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Zdenek SEKERA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject:
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sekera@pcitdi10.cern.ch (Zdenek SEKERA) writes:
| Quote: | Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at> writes:
Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at> writes:
Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
Walther Mathieu <mathieu.nospam@in4tec.de> writes:
Hello,
just got me another SCSI DVD-RAM drive at ebay
it seems to be fine in my Indigo2 R10k IP28 but
Which exact model was it?
What SCSI connections do you have on your Indigo2?
50pin?, 64pin?, 80pin?
an Indigo2 has two 50pin fast SCSI controllers
If you have 50pin, my next question would be what
kind of a SCSI convertor you are using, because surely the
DVD device is either 64 or 80.
50 pin fast SCSI
So what was the DVD-RAM model you've bought?
Who made it? I didn't think there æxist still models with 50 pins.
I have a LF-D103, Walther has the newer LF-D201 which reads larger
disks than mine but both have the 10Mbyte/s interface.
Thanks for info!
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I naively thought I'll be able to find a place to buy lf-d201
(because I'm interested in your backup solution for my Indy,
it also has 50 pin scsi) but extensive googling found only
a lot of reviews but no place to buy.
eBay doesn't have it either.
Any idea where I could get it?
Thanks and best regards,
---Zdenek
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Zdenek Sekera | zdenek.sekera@cern.ch
LHC Computing Grid Project | tel: +41-22-767.1068
CERN - IT Division | mobile: +41-76-487.4971
CH-1211 Geneva 23 | fax: +41-22-767.4900
Switzerland |
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Zdenek SEKERA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:37 am Post subject:
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Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at> writes:
| Quote: | Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at> writes:
Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
Walther Mathieu <mathieu.nospam@in4tec.de> writes:
Hello,
just got me another SCSI DVD-RAM drive at ebay
it seems to be fine in my Indigo2 R10k IP28 but
Which exact model was it?
What SCSI connections do you have on your Indigo2?
50pin?, 64pin?, 80pin?
an Indigo2 has two 50pin fast SCSI controllers
If you have 50pin, my next question would be what
kind of a SCSI convertor you are using, because surely the
DVD device is either 64 or 80.
50 pin fast SCSI
So what was the DVD-RAM model you've bought?
Who made it? I didn't think there æxist still models with 50 pins.
I have a LF-D103, Walther has the newer LF-D201 which reads larger
disks than mine but both have the 10Mbyte/s interface.
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Toni Grass
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject:
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Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
| Quote: | Toni Grass <toni@fotoni.at> writes:
Zdenek SEKERA wrote:
Walther Mathieu <mathieu.nospam@in4tec.de> writes:
Hello,
just got me another SCSI DVD-RAM drive at ebay
it seems to be fine in my Indigo2 R10k IP28 but
Which exact model was it?
What SCSI connections do you have on your Indigo2?
50pin?, 64pin?, 80pin?
an Indigo2 has two 50pin fast SCSI controllers
If you have 50pin, my next question would be what
kind of a SCSI convertor you are using, because surely the
DVD device is either 64 or 80.
50 pin fast SCSI
So what was the DVD-RAM model you've bought?
Who made it? I didn't think there æxist still models with 50 pins.
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I have a LF-D103, Walther has the newer LF-D201 which reads larger
disks than mine but both have the 10Mbyte/s interface.
Toni |
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