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T A
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Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject:
Re: The freeware died?
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Thanks to those who replied (and to J.N. who replyed by mail).
I'll take a look at the nekochan packages (initial impression is
good, although I would have preferred it to install in /usr/freeware
because of standard path issues, but that's not a major problem).
If necessary I'll also look at the netbsd packages.
I'm still baffled as to why SGI doesn't understand how important
those freeware packages were to the usefulness of SGI machines.
As indicated in my original posting we've practically been OEM
sellers of SGI systems, but we have by now moved almost entirely
over to other platforms which are better supported in this respect.
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Steve Allen
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject:
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In article <pan.2006.01.17.09.15.56.27340@imaginet.fr>,
Emmanuel Florac <eflorac@imaginet.fr> writes:
| Quote: | Le Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:15:01 +0000, S.C.Sprong a écrit :
Another option is to use the NetBSD port system, which is a far larger
collection than nekochan's. They also tend to concentrate (a bit) more on
serious software like apache, postfix, and bind:
http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/software/packages.html
Yes, but nekochan programs are in tardist format. And do all NetBSD ports
compile easily on IRIX ?
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Most do, some don't. I wanted to build Firefox with more current libraries.
I had to do some serious fudging to get some of the NetBSD packages to build
and install. (I couldn't tell you what I did, I didn't take notes. It was
all hack, hack, hack until something worked. Not much of it was proper
fixes, in some instances I hacked things while the build was in progress...)
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S.C.Sprong
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Joined: 21 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject:
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Emmanuel Florac <eflorac@imaginet.fr> wrote:
| Quote: | Le Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:15:01 +0000, S.C.Sprong a écrit :
Another option is to use the NetBSD port system, which is a far larger
collection than nekochan's.
Yes, but nekochan programs are in tardist format.
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Depending on one's point of view, this is both a blessing and a curse.
If you have complete control over the build and distribution process, I'd
prefer a compressed tar file over an undocumented format that is geared
towards binary patches.
I don't know much about the inner workings of SGI's swpg yet, but it seems
that SGI inst templates must be designed by hand at least once for every
software package. If that is correct, then it wouldn't be much extra work
to import programs compiled in NetBSD's port system.
| Quote: | And do all NetBSD ports compile easily on IRIX ?
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The BSD port systems are nothing more than a collection of platform, OS,
and compiler dependent patches over main source distributions and a means
to install and remove them. As usual, the most difficult programs to build
are GNU/Linux/Gnome dependent products and Common Lisp (cucl).
Once in a while, working IRIX ports are compiled with MipsPro 7.4.x by
the IRIX pkg maintainer. The last build was for the second quarter of
2005 and consisted of almost 2000 (sub-)programs.
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Emmanuel Florac
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Joined: 21 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:15 am Post subject:
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Le Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:15:01 +0000, S.C.Sprong a écrit :
Yes, but nekochan programs are in tardist format. And do all NetBSD ports
compile easily on IRIX ?
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S.C.Sprong
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:
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Emmanuel Florac <eflorac@imaginet.fr> wrote:
| Quote: | Le Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:17:10 +0000, Tor a écrit :
The company I work for has bought tons of SGI systems for our customers
for the last 16 years, but it's getting increasingly difficult to support
our software now that the freeware is getting so obsolete.
You can find up-to date packages of all these applications and many more
on www.nekochan.net.
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Another option is to use the NetBSD port system, which is a far larger
collection than nekochan's. They also tend to concentrate (a bit) more on
serious software like apache, postfix, and bind:
<http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/software/packages.html>
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Emmanuel Florac
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject:
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Le Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:17:10 +0000, Tor a écrit :
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The company I work for has bought tons of SGI systems for our customers
for the last 16 years, but it's getting increasingly difficult to support
our software now that the freeware is getting so obsolete.
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You can find up-to date packages of all these applications and many more
on www.nekochan.net.
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Je suis riche des biens dont je sais me passer.
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T A
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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The freeware died?
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Anyone know why SGI stopped updating http://freeware.sgi.com/ ?
The company I work for has bought tons of SGI systems for our customers for
the last 16 years, but it's getting increasingly difficult to support our
software now that the freeware is getting so obsolete. We really need all
of those libraries, and the job of porting/installing it would be too costly
for us - so I'm sorry to say that we're moving to other platforms now.
SGI used to be one of the best for third party software, now they're almost
the worst. Which saddens me.
-Tor |
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