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William Park
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Al Schapira <a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Quote:
Can you suggest a wireless PCMCIA/cardbus card that use the PrismII
chipset THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE?

You probably have to buy used one. Prism is 802.11b, and most
manufacturers have move to 802.11g.

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Jim
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Al Schapira wrote:
Quote:


Valentin Guillen wrote:

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:07:37 +0000, Jim wrote:

...



I don't get it! If your box uses the Prism2 chipset, virtually every
kernel of *every* Linux distro for the last 5 years will work with the
WiFi card. If all you're hearing is nut-slurping, why not install _your_
favorite distro, and hear music instead?

I've used SuSE for the last 7 years, RH for three years before that, and
I've used WiFi on my Suse for 3 of the last 7 years, with a multitude of
different cards/chipsets. As I said earlier, Prism2 cards are the most
supported, and can be used with any distro I've ever heard of.

vg


Can you suggest a wireless PCMCIA/cardbus card that use the PrismII
chipset THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE?

Thanks.

-Al

Zcom XI-325, the Belkins, the Edimax 11b cards... take your pick.

HTH
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Paul Rubin
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Al Schapira <a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net> writes:
Quote:
Can you suggest a wireless PCMCIA/cardbus card that use the PrismII
chipset THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE?

Currently available where? There's tons of them on ebay. That's
where I got mine.
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Al Schapira
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Valentin Guillen wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:07:37 +0000, Jim wrote:
....


I don't get it! If your box uses the Prism2 chipset, virtually every
kernel of *every* Linux distro for the last 5 years will work with the
WiFi card. If all you're hearing is nut-slurping, why not install _your_
favorite distro, and hear music instead?

I've used SuSE for the last 7 years, RH for three years before that, and
I've used WiFi on my Suse for 3 of the last 7 years, with a multitude of
different cards/chipsets. As I said earlier, Prism2 cards are the most
supported, and can be used with any distro I've ever heard of.

vg

Can you suggest a wireless PCMCIA/cardbus card that use the PrismII
chipset THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE?

Thanks.

-Al
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usenet1@myrealbox.com
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Posts: 210

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:07:37 +0000, Jim wrote:


Quote:
My Intel internal wifi card (Prism II chip) on my Dell laptop works fine
under SuSE 9.2. Shame the distro sucks monkey nuts, from only a day of
using it. Maybe I'll turn around on it after a week of customising and
trying to get it more Debian-like in its package management (even if I
have to hold a local repository).

I don't get it! If your box uses the Prism2 chipset, virtually every
kernel of *every* Linux distro for the last 5 years will work with the
WiFi card. If all you're hearing is nut-slurping, why not install _your_
favorite distro, and hear music instead?

I've used SuSE for the last 7 years, RH for three years before that, and
I've used WiFi on my Suse for 3 of the last 7 years, with a multitude of
different cards/chipsets. As I said earlier, Prism2 cards are the most
supported, and can be used with any distro I've ever heard of.

vg
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Unruh
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

"Gerbilio" <itmpm@wintec.ac.nz> writes:

Quote:
I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG card on an internal mini-PCI bus.
It is running the ipw2200 module.

Ironically, I am now on the wireless again--it wasn't working a minute
ago. Oh, if only I knew what it was that I did to get it to work!

Sometimes your access point provider goes down. Ie it has nothing to do
with you.
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Unruh
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Quote:
Gerbilio wrote:
Hi. I have an IBM ThinkPad R40 with a triple boot configuration
(XPSP2, SuSE, and Mandrake 10.2). I have gotten XP to talk to a
wireless network, but it just doesn't seem to want to work under Linux.


In my current configuration I'm running SuSE 10.0 with the Intel 2200
mini-PCI card. This is what ifconfig says:

DadsLinux:~ # ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:06:1B:CD:3A:0D
inet6 addr: fe80::206:1bff:fecd:3a0d/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:3014 (2.9 Kb) TX bytes:6768 (6.6 Kb)

eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:54:A5:56
inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe54:a556/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:123 errors:9 dropped:9 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:54299 (53.0 Kb) TX bytes:7839 (7.6 Kb)
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xa000 Memory:d0204000-d0204fff

The eth1 is the wireless. It has found its IP address correctly, but
does not talk to the AP/router e.g. ping doesn't work. The wireless
indicator light is on--most of the time, though it cuts out
occasionally but that's typical.

IF your get and ip address via dhcp, which you apparently have done, then
the wireless card works. It could not get its address if the wireless card
did not connect to the access point and communicate with it. Do not worry
about your wireless card.

Look at
route -n
cat /etc/resolv.conf
to see if there is some trouble there.

Try browsing to 152.163.211.51 rathr than the name. If it connects but
www.netscape.com does not, then you have resolver problems.
(/etc/resolv.conf)
If it does ot connect you probably have either routing problems or firewall
problems.

Quote:
What wireless card/chipset are you using? Also, what linux kernel &
driver? With answeres to those, sume suggestions regarding drivers can
be made, that being said, I myself have not exactly been having a barrel
of fun getting my DLink G650 to work with the madwifi-ng driver.

There is always ndiswrapper to use the Windows driver, or linuxant
driverloader (for $20).
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Jim
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Evan Carew wrote:
Quote:
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Gerbilio wrote:

Hi. I have an IBM ThinkPad R40 with a triple boot configuration
(XPSP2, SuSE, and Mandrake 10.2). I have gotten XP to talk to a
wireless network, but it just doesn't seem to want to work under Linux.


In my current configuration I'm running SuSE 10.0 with the Intel 2200
mini-PCI card. This is what ifconfig says:

DadsLinux:~ # ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:06:1B:CD:3A:0D
inet6 addr: fe80::206:1bff:fecd:3a0d/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:3014 (2.9 Kb) TX bytes:6768 (6.6 Kb)

eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:54:A5:56
inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe54:a556/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:123 errors:9 dropped:9 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:54299 (53.0 Kb) TX bytes:7839 (7.6 Kb)
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xa000 Memory:d0204000-d0204fff

The eth1 is the wireless. It has found its IP address correctly, but
does not talk to the AP/router e.g. ping doesn't work. The wireless
indicator light is on--most of the time, though it cuts out
occasionally but that's typical.

Any clues?

MTIA, Matt

What wireless card/chipset are you using? Also, what linux kernel &
driver? With answeres to those, sume suggestions regarding drivers can
be made, that being said, I myself have not exactly been having a barrel
of fun getting my DLink G650 to work with the madwifi-ng driver.

At this point, because there are relatively few of us, decent support is
scarce. If yo run into problems, you might have to get comfortable with
the idea of editing someone else's kernel driver code. Not my idea of fun.

Oh if only drivers for the linux kernel were easier to write/support for
commercial concerns. Then maybe we would see more supported hardware.

Evan
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My Intel internal wifi card (Prism II chip) on my Dell laptop works fine
under SuSE 9.2. Shame the distro sucks monkey nuts, from only a day of
using it. Maybe I'll turn around on it after a week of customising and
trying to get it more Debian-like in its package management (even if I
have to hold a local repository).
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Gerbilio
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Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG card on an internal mini-PCI bus.
It is running the ipw2200 module.

Ironically, I am now on the wireless again--it wasn't working a minute
ago. Oh, if only I knew what it was that I did to get it to work!

Matt
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Gerbilio
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Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Nuffing...except that it's not supported by Novell, therefore the "U
taint flag" is set.

Ironically, soon after I sent that msg I managed to get it to work!
First it was a matter of setting the gateway to the wireless router,
then I had to correctly specify the DHCP servers.

However, it worked ONCE. Now I can get to the network and ping the
router, but not beyond via wireless (I'm doing this via the Ethernet
port). And to get THIS far, I had to go through YaST (the SuSE GUI
system configuration program) to restart the wireless interface.

What is the command to restart the wireless interface from the command
line? That would be most useful.

MTIA, Matt
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Richard L. Dery
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Joined: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

On 2005-12-21, Gerbilio <itmpm@wintec.ac.nz> wrote:
Quote:
Hi. I have an IBM ThinkPad R40 with a triple boot configuration
(XPSP2, SuSE, and Mandrake 10.2). I have gotten XP to talk to a
wireless network, but it just doesn't seem to want to work under Linux.

I finally got WiFi working on Linux with the following:

1. Using the network discovery tool (RaConfig) that came with my driver.
Another good one is apradar (apradar.sourceforge.net).

2. Installing a dhcp client. I suspect that SuSE and Mandrake contain
a prepackaged client you can install.

3. Modifying my firewall to recognize the specific wireless interface,
instead of using the 'auto' interface setting.

Hope this helps a little bit.
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Markus Kossmann
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Joined: 26 Feb 2005
Posts: 62

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Gerbilio wrote:

Quote:
Hi. I have an IBM ThinkPad R40 with a triple boot configuration
(XPSP2, SuSE, and Mandrake 10.2). I have gotten XP to talk to a
wireless network, but it just doesn't seem to want to work under Linux.


In my current configuration I'm running SuSE 10.0 with the Intel 2200
mini-PCI card. This is what ifconfig says:

What say the logfiles ( /var/log/boot.msg and /var/log/messages) about the
ipw2200 ?
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Evan Carew
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Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

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Hash: SHA1

Gerbilio wrote:
Quote:
Hi. I have an IBM ThinkPad R40 with a triple boot configuration
(XPSP2, SuSE, and Mandrake 10.2). I have gotten XP to talk to a
wireless network, but it just doesn't seem to want to work under Linux.


In my current configuration I'm running SuSE 10.0 with the Intel 2200
mini-PCI card. This is what ifconfig says:

DadsLinux:~ # ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:06:1B:CD:3A:0D
inet6 addr: fe80::206:1bff:fecd:3a0d/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:3014 (2.9 Kb) TX bytes:6768 (6.6 Kb)

eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:54:A5:56
inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe54:a556/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:123 errors:9 dropped:9 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:54299 (53.0 Kb) TX bytes:7839 (7.6 Kb)
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xa000 Memory:d0204000-d0204fff

The eth1 is the wireless. It has found its IP address correctly, but
does not talk to the AP/router e.g. ping doesn't work. The wireless
indicator light is on--most of the time, though it cuts out
occasionally but that's typical.

Any clues?

MTIA, Matt

What wireless card/chipset are you using? Also, what linux kernel &

driver? With answeres to those, sume suggestions regarding drivers can
be made, that being said, I myself have not exactly been having a barrel
of fun getting my DLink G650 to work with the madwifi-ng driver.

At this point, because there are relatively few of us, decent support is
scarce. If yo run into problems, you might have to get comfortable with
the idea of editing someone else's kernel driver code. Not my idea of fun.

Oh if only drivers for the linux kernel were easier to write/support for
commercial concerns. Then maybe we would see more supported hardware.

Evan
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Gerbilio
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Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:09 am    Post subject: Linux Wilreless---cursed??? Reply with quote

Hi. I have an IBM ThinkPad R40 with a triple boot configuration
(XPSP2, SuSE, and Mandrake 10.2). I have gotten XP to talk to a
wireless network, but it just doesn't seem to want to work under Linux.


In my current configuration I'm running SuSE 10.0 with the Intel 2200
mini-PCI card. This is what ifconfig says:

DadsLinux:~ # ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:06:1B:CD:3A:0D
inet6 addr: fe80::206:1bff:fecd:3a0d/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:3014 (2.9 Kb) TX bytes:6768 (6.6 Kb)

eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:F0:54:A5:56
inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::212:f0ff:fe54:a556/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:123 errors:9 dropped:9 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:54299 (53.0 Kb) TX bytes:7839 (7.6 Kb)
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xa000 Memory:d0204000-d0204fff

The eth1 is the wireless. It has found its IP address correctly, but
does not talk to the AP/router e.g. ping doesn't work. The wireless
indicator light is on--most of the time, though it cuts out
occasionally but that's typical.

Any clues?

MTIA, Matt
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