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***** charles
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Thanks to all of your replies! I'm using a laptop, which makes it
harder to get another harddisk. USB harddrive is a solution that I'll
consider. On the other hand, is it a lot slower to access a USB drive?

Thanks,
xian

Most people are price sensative. When they find out how much SPEED
costs, they ususally say "well, I don't need that much speed". You can
get a new USB external box and stick a used 20G hd in it for under $50
just for experimental stuff and education.

later.....
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xian_hong2046@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

Thanks to all of your replies! I'm using a laptop, which makes it
harder to get another harddisk. USB harddrive is a solution that I'll
consider. On the other hand, is it a lot slower to access a USB drive?

Thanks,
xian
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***** charles
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hello,

Is there a way to run linux from a CD without installing it on my
computer (and hence can avoid repartition the computer)? If so, which
linux vendor should I try? I'm fairly new to linux, so I guess debian
may be too much for me (since it requires lots of manual configuration
of the systems).

In addition, my laptop is windows, I'm not sure whether it'll work with
linux since some hardwares (such as winmodems) are only designed for
windows. How could I find out whether I can run linux properly?

Thanks,
xian


Live bootable CD's: Knoppix, Ubuntu, just put "live bootable linux"
in google and have fun.

The advantage of live cd's is that you can use them to pre-determine if your
hardware will work with it. They are not designed for long-term use. If
you want to use linux on a longer term basis you need to install it on some
form of relatively permenent media: hd, usb/fw drive in multi boot mode
if you still need Windows too. Linux can work with FAT32 partitions just
fine but it is still IF'Y with NTFS writes.

You can also use live linux to solve a lot of Windows problems.

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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Apache->PHP-mail()->sendmail problem Debian 3.1 Reply with quote

"Bengt Samuelsson" <bengt@remove.sm7jqb.se> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi!

I canīt send mail from my webserver!
I CAN send mail all ather ways thrue sendmail.
Even 'gethostbyname()' donīt work!

I run Apache 1.3.3
PHP 4.3.0
sendmail 8.13.4

Something special to lock after?

Please send a copy to bengt@sm7jqb.se too!

73 dé Bengt

You've neglected to say which Linux release you are using, and your network
configuration. Is sendmail actually running? Can the machine send mail to
itself locally? Are there messages in /var/log/maillog about it? What do
your /etc/sendmail/*.mc files say?
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Thanks to both of you for your replies! I use linux for some
scientific computation, and it's very probable that the additional
softwares that I need will not be part of the standard bundle.

I originally consider installing linux like fedora core, but this
requires repartitioning my computer, and yet, I don't know whether it
can work with any OS other than windows.

I think I should boot from Knoppix and will try to mount the windows
partition and install additional software there. Is there any risk in
doing this, since it touches windows? Any tips are highly welcome!

If I find out my computer works with Linux, then I probably will try to
install linux on my harddisk. Is there any good and free partition
tool available? If I install linux, shall I install Knoppix or fedora
core? I only had experience in installing and using fedora.

I strongly recommend adding another hard disk, rather than repartitioning.
And the partitioning tools are built into many modern Linux installers, such
as SuSE and Knoppix. I don't think Fedora Core has a good one automatically
in the installer, but I haven't tried that in a few years.
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Thanks! If I boot from Knoppix, is there a way that I can install
additional software, which is not included in the bundle? Since
Knoppix doesn't touch the harddisk, I guess one can't install extra
software. Is there to get around?

Not trivially: it's playing fascinating games to store the actively edited
files in RAM and swap, if available. You can add packages to the CD image
with lots of published tools.

But if you're going that far, why not get an external USB drive and use that
to put your Linux software and working directories on, and boot from Knoppix
as needed?
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xian_hong2046@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

Thanks to both of you for your replies! I use linux for some
scientific computation, and it's very probable that the additional
softwares that I need will not be part of the standard bundle.

I originally consider installing linux like fedora core, but this
requires repartitioning my computer, and yet, I don't know whether it
can work with any OS other than windows.

I think I should boot from Knoppix and will try to mount the windows
partition and install additional software there. Is there any risk in
doing this, since it touches windows? Any tips are highly welcome!

If I find out my computer works with Linux, then I probably will try to
install linux on my harddisk. Is there any good and free partition
tool available? If I install linux, shall I install Knoppix or fedora
core? I only had experience in installing and using fedora.

Thanks!
xian
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Unruh
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

"xian_hong2046@hotmail.com" <xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> writes:

Quote:
Thanks! If I boot from Knoppix, is there a way that I can install
additional software, which is not included in the bundle? Since
Knoppix doesn't touch the harddisk, I guess one can't install extra
software. Is there to get around?

You would have to install it onto the disk. You could mount the windows
partition and install the stuff on there.
You obvioulsy cannot install them onto the CD.


Quote:
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xian
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Unruh
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

Knopix, Mandrake-One, ....
Yes there are lots of single CD Linux version which work from the CD.
Debian does not have a single CD version AFAIK.

xian_hong2046@hotmail.com writes:

Quote:
Hello,

Is there a way to run linux from a CD without installing it on my
computer (and hence can avoid repartition the computer)? If so, which
linux vendor should I try? I'm fairly new to linux, so I guess debian
may be too much for me (since it requires lots of manual configuration
of the systems).

In addition, my laptop is windows, I'm not sure whether it'll work with
linux since some hardwares (such as winmodems) are only designed for
windows. How could I find out whether I can run linux properly?

Your winmodem may or may not work.
Put in a single CD version and try it!



Quote:
Thanks,
xian
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Dan C
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:59:06 -0700, xian_hong2046@hotmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Thanks! If I boot from Knoppix, is there a way that I can install
additional software, which is not included in the bundle? Since
Knoppix doesn't touch the harddisk, I guess one can't install extra
software. Is there to get around?

I don't think so, unless you install it to the hard disk. What makes you
think the included software isn't going to be enough?

--
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951
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xian_hong2046@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:59 am    Post subject: Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it? Reply with quote

Thanks! If I boot from Knoppix, is there a way that I can install
additional software, which is not included in the bundle? Since
Knoppix doesn't touch the harddisk, I guess one can't install extra
software. Is there to get around?

Thanks,
xian
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clemens fischer
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Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel-2.6.16 make problem: "target pattern contains no `%'" Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 in <44486BEC.2060506@privacy.net>, Joe Feise wrote:

Quote:
Which filesystem are you using? Not just the fs where the sources are,
but also where the compiler is installed, and for the tmp directory.
I had at some point back an issue where reads on Reiser4 would
continue past the file end in certain circumstances, which caused
compile errors. Ran a fsck?

i'm running 'uname -rms' Linux 2.6.8-3-686 i686, debian-3.1 with all
ext3 jounaled fs on all mounts. the "fsck" ran through fine.

but you're right, it must be something like this, but more on the side
of the machine beeing all right, instead it must be something i
configured or installed that interferes.

if the Makefile were damaged, i should have seen it when diffing against
other Makefiles, right?

back when i was using FreeBSD, i had a bug torturing me where an
environment variable setting "egrep" default options caused an obscure
failure of a critical kernel part written in assembler. it took me
weeks to find out, and i was the only one ever encountering it. today
i recursively grepped for "filechk_version.h", which is the "define"
"make" doesn't seem to like. and i ran "strace", even on a locally
compiled copy of "make", no results.

could somebody verify the output, please? it's:

/home/usr:src/linux-2.6.16.5
0 2 # env - PATH="/bin:/usr/bin:/l/bin" strace -v -e trace=file gnu-make help
execve("/l/bin/gnu-make", ["gnu-make", "help"], [/* 1 var */]) = 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_dev=makedev(3, 1), st_ino=65230, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=96, st_size=47623, st_atime=2006/04/21-17:00:29, st_mtime=2006/04/20-10:33:02, st_ctime=2006/04/20-10:33:02}) = 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/tls/librt.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_dev=makedev(3, 1), st_ino=358723, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=48, st_size=22940, st_atime=2006/04/21-17:00:30, st_mtime=2006/04/02-15:32:18, st_ctime=2006/04/20-10:30:22}) = 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_dev=makedev(3, 1), st_ino=358709, st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=2464, st_size=1254660, st_atime=2006/04/21-17:00:30, st_mtime=2006/04/02-15:32:18, st_ctime=2006/04/20-10:30:22}) = 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/tls/libpthread.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_dev=makedev(3, 1), st_ino=358472, st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=168, st_size=78233, st_atime=2006/04/21-17:00:30, st_mtime=2006/04/02-15:32:18, st_ctime=2006/04/20-10:30:21}) = 0
getcwd("/home/usr:src/linux-2.6.16.5", 4096) = 29
stat64("/usr/local/include", {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=634041, st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISGID|0775, st_nlink=3, st_uid=0, st_gid=50, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=4096, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:18:34, st_mtime=2005/12/15-23:01:13, st_ctime=2005/12/15-23:01:13}) = 0
stat64("/usr/gnu/include", 0xbfffe580) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat64("/usr/local/include", {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=634041, st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISGID|0775, st_nlink=3, st_uid=0, st_gid=50, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=4096, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:18:34, st_mtime=2005/12/15-23:01:13, st_ctime=2005/12/15-23:01:13}) = 0
stat64("/usr/include", {st_dev=makedev(3, 1), st_ino=32578, st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_nlink=43, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=16, st_size=8192, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:22:01, st_mtime=2006/04/20-13:14:26, st_ctime=2006/04/20-13:14:26}) = 0
stat64(".", {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=280095, st_mode=S_IFDIR|0777, st_nlink=19, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=4096, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:26:41, st_mtime=2006/04/17-23:46:23, st_ctime=2006/04/17-23:46:23}) = 0
open(".", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=280095, st_mode=S_IFDIR|0777, st_nlink=19, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=4096, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:26:41, st_mtime=2006/04/17-23:46:23, st_ctime=2006/04/17-23:46:23}) = 0
open("Makefile", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=715922, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=88, st_size=44815, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:26:42, st_mtime=2006/04/17-23:40:12, st_ctime=2006/04/17-23:40:12}) = 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
open("/home/usr:src/linux-2.6.16.5/scripts/Kbuild.include", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 4
fstat64(4, {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=1092240, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=3576, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:26:41, st_mtime=2006/04/12-22:27:57, st_ctime=2006/04/17-18:49:19}) = 0
open("/home/usr:src/linux-2.6.16.5/arch/i386/Makefile", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 4
fstat64(4, {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=1170561, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=16, st_size=4421, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:26:42, st_mtime=2006/04/12-22:27:57, st_ctime=2006/04/17-18:49:17}) = 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
open("/home/usr:src/linux-2.6.16.5/arch/i386/Makefile.cpu", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 5
fstat64(5, {st_dev=makedev(3, 6), st_ino=1170562, st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=1903, st_atime=2006/04/21-16:26:42, st_mtime=2006/04/12-22:27:57, st_ctime=2006/04/17-18:49:17}) = 0
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
Makefile:906: *** target pattern contains no `%'. Stop.
chdir("/home/usr:src/linux-2.6.16.5") = 0

thanks,

clemens fischer
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clemens fischer
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: kernel-2.6.16 make problem: "target pattern contains no `%'" Reply with quote

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:27:01 +0200, clemens fischer wrote:

Quote:
0 3 $ make --version
GNU Make 3.80

the permissions are checked and ok for all files. now take this
innocent command:

/usr/src/linux-2.6.16.5
0 3 $ env - PATH="$PATH" make --warn-undefined-variables -d

the "env ..." is there to make sure no environment variables interfer,
and the make sure fails at the same point without it.

...

Makefile:906: *** target pattern contains no `%'. Stop.

...

/usr/src/linux-2.6.16.5
2 3 $ sed -n '893,906p' Makefile
# needs to be updated, so this check is forced on all builds

uts_len := 64

define filechk_version.h
if [ `echo -n "$(KERNELRELEASE)" | wc -c ` -gt $(uts_len) ]; then \
echo '"$(KERNELRELEASE)" exceeds $(uts_len) characters' >&2; \
exit 1; \
fi; \
(echo \#define UTS_RELEASE \"$(KERNELRELEASE)\"; \
echo \#define LINUX_VERSION_CODE `expr $(VERSION) \\* 65536 + $(PATCHLEVEL) \\* 256 + $(SUBLEVEL)`; \
echo '#define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << Cool + (c))'; \
)
endef

meanwhile i've even tried to "strace -e trace=file make help" the thing,
but i cannot see some file or mechanism that could cause this.

would you know about any issues about maybe symlinks, "define"
statements or files prerequisite to a kernel make? i can develop
software without problems everywhere else, only the kernel makes fail!

clemens
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andras.imre@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: Debian and vendor proprietary RAID Reply with quote

Hi,

Here are the lspci outputs:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
# lspci -n
0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:2590 (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:2591 (rev 03)
0000:00:1b.0 0403: 8086:2668 (rev 04)
0000:00:1c.0 0604: 8086:2660 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:2658 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:2659 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:265a (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.3 0c03: 8086:265b (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:265c (rev 04)
0000:00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev d4)
0000:00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2641 (rev 04)
0000:00:1f.1 0101: 8086:266f (rev 04)
0000:00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:266a (rev 04)
0000:01:03.0 0280: 8086:4220 (rev 05)
0000:01:04.0 0c00: 104c:8023
0000:01:05.0 0200: 10ec:8169 (rev 10)
0000:01:07.0 0104: 1106:3249 (rev 50)
0000:03:00.0 0300: 10de:00c8 (rev a2)

----------------------------------------------------------------------
# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML
Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM Express PCI
Express Root Port (rev 03)
0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
0000:00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
(ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
(ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
(ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
(ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 04)
0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
(ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 04)
0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev
d4)
0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC
Interface Bridge (rev 04)
0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
(ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 04)
0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) SMBus Controller (rev 04)
0000:01:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG
(rev 05)
0000:01:04.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A
IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
0000:01:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
0000:01:07.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6421 IDE
RAID Controller (rev 50)
0000:03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV41.8
[GeForce Go 6800] (rev a2)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: Ankit Fadia : The real picture Reply with quote

[ cola removed - Followup-To -> comp.os.linux.misc ]

In comp.os.linux.misc Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>:
Quote:
On 4 Apr 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.embedded, in article
1144157296.509310.162650@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, prabhat_sandy wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article
1144157312.184600.180850@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, prabhat_sandy wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.networking, in article
1144157328.144000.160040@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, prabhat_sandy wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.x, in article
1144157376.743480.28020@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, prabhat_sandy wrote:

Looks as if would even pop up in a few more.

Quote:
Does the education system teach idiocy, or is this something that is
a congenital gift?

What would you expect from a post made through G/2? ;-)

In any case, interesting the URL below claims the guy in the
subject* would be the author of "hacking exposed", but the name
isn't on my version and not on the recent (amazon).

http://www.geocities.com/sphinx_gel/

*While we don't even know if the OP's name is an alias or his
real name?

[..]

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