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laredoflash@gmail.com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade?
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Good God Man! Running Linux in a MAC!? Why torture yourself? Either go
with OSX or get an old 486 pc from a pawn shop and run SuSE Linux. the
best Distro there is! I have my own hell trying to run GDI printers
with linux, or trying to sync my palm pilot! AAaaarrrggghhh!. Laredo
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 1068
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade?
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"pmp" <patrick@tendim.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:1gs1q0g.153ygcamvyfeoN%patrick@tendim.cjb.net...
| Quote: | Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
tendim wrote:
I would assume that your kernel detected some other hardware, and it
gave hda..hdf to that. Look a dmesg and /proc/ide to see what is being
detected. I sounds as if you have multiple controllers in the system,
and building without the drivers for the ones you aren't using would be
a good thing (or hang your drives off the first controller if possible).
*Sigh*
I'm not sure if you noticed the rest of my article, but I also clearly
said that I only had one IDE interface (read: controller) in my machine.
There are no other drivers installed, either statically or as modules.
As I said, the machine was working *fine* prior to a 2.4.29 kernel
upgrade; I'm confused as to why a migration from 2.4.18 to 2.4.29 would
cause such a stupid change in setup.
Ok, so that is controller #0, which would imply it is the "first"
controller. Primary drive 0 and drive 1 would be assigned hda and hdb,
and secondary drive 0 and drive 1 would be hdc and hdd, no?
I do have two SCSI controllers in my system, which should be enabled as
/dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc., which they are. I don't see how these would
(or should) interfere with IDE ordering.
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I don't see where your problem is coming from. Can you recompile your kernel
with the default .config file from your old, standard kernel, run through
"make oldconfig" to get things ordered to match the options of the new
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Bill Unruh
*nix forums addict
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 87
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: soundcard issues
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Art Werschulz <agw@cs.columbia.edu> writes:
| Quote: | Hi.
Awhile back, I posted the following:
I am running Fedora FC3 on a Dell.
When I run system-config-soundcard, the following audio device was
detected:
Vendor: Intel
Model: Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio
Module: snd-intel8x0
I then click the "Play test sound" button, and I hear nothing. Next, I get
an alert box asking "Did you hear the sample sound?" After clicking "No",
I get another alert box saying
Automatic detection of the sound card did not work. Audio will not be
available on the system. Please click OK to continue.
A bit more information: system-config-soundcard prints the following to
the shell window from which it was launched:
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : Signed
16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
Moreover, /etc/modprobe.conf is as follows:
alias eth0 3c59x
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias usb-controller uhci-hcd
An update: I recently was upgraded to a dual-processor HP machine. It is
running Fedora FC3, with the 2.6.10-1.760_FC3smp kernel.
Once again, I tried to configure the soundcard. When I ran
system-config-soundcard, the following audio device was detected:
Vendor: Intel
Model: Corp. 82801/EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
Module: snd-intel8x0
I then clicked the "Play test sound" button, and I hear nothing. Next, I
got an alert box asking "Did you hear the sample sound?" After clicking
"No", I got the same alert box as before.
This time, system-config-soundcard printed the following to
the shell window from which it was launched:
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : Signed
16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
and /etc/modprobe.conf is:
alias eth0 tg3
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
One other thing: I am using the following ALSA RPMs:
alsa-utils-1.0.6-3
alsa-lib-1.0.6-7.FC3
On the offchance that these might be out-of-date, I went to
www.rpmfind.net, looking for more recent versions. The alsa-lib was
up-to-date. However, there was a more recent alsa-utils (1.0.8-1), which I
installed. This made no difference. In the meantime, I have downgraded
alas-utils back to 1.0.6-7.FC3.
So it appears that I'm running into the same configuration problem, on two
different machines, with two different sound cards. Since
system-sound-config is fairly straightforward to use, I don't think I ran
it incorrectly.
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They are exactly the same sound card drivers and very similar sound cards.
Which port did youhave the speakers plugged into? I have found that
sometimes the sound comes out of the "wrong" port. |
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Richard Huelbig
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 08 Feb 2005
Posts: 3
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: system-config-soundcard not playing osund
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Art,
This may be the bug that many have been reporting that is related to the
alsa driver and the 2.6.10 kernel (on either FC2 or FC3).
Since you're using FC3 you should try opening the volume control panel
so that you see all of the sliders. Mute out the Headphone Jack Sense
and Line Jack Sense controls by checking on the Mute box. If the problem
is the one I describe above, that should fix it.
If you're using FC2 you may not see the two sense sliders so you may
have to open the alsamixer volume control by entering the command
"alsamixer" in a terminal window. A crude graphical version of the
volume control will open in the terminal window--you should be able to
mute the two sense lines from there (select the appropriate line and
press, I think it's, the M key). When muted you'll see an MM at the top
of the slider.
I would be interested to know if this helps. Please update the NG with
whatever you find.
Regards,
Richard Huelbig |
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grendel
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 1
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: make win98 boot from cd?
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Next time unplug the mouse, you need the keyboard a bit to modify the
BIOS. Something about this box is a little odd, but setting the BIOS to
"Defaults" gives you the option to hit F1 at boot to be able to
re-enter the BIOS. |
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Gary S. Terhune
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 2
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: make win98 boot from cd?
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Missing mouse usually doesn't prompt an error.
Like your handle, <s>.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"grendel" <drunkphoneman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108089707.703721.131790@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Next time unplug the mouse, you need the keyboard a bit to modify the
BIOS. Something about this box is a little odd, but setting the BIOS
to
"Defaults" gives you the option to hit F1 at boot to be able to
re-enter the BIOS.
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Bill Davidsen
*nix forums Guru Wannabe
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 217
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: problem with resolv.conf
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Peter T. Breuer wrote:
| Quote: | Alberto <alberto@nomail.it> wrote:
Hi all,
I can connect to internet but I cant resolv DNS, my resolv.conf file is not
changed.
The following output is my resolv.conf file, it dosn't work anymore. What's
up?
cat /etc/resolv.conf
search org
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.130.224.18
nameserver 192.130.225.129
I get no response from those  . What makes you think they are correct?
Or that they exist?
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If he uses DHCP to get his IP, those values are supplied by the ISP. In
any case, it looks as if either (a) his own named isn't running, or (b)
some firewall is blocking port 53 and enquiries are getting processed.
Start a dump with "tcpdump -vX port 53" on one terminal and then do a
"host www.google.com" on another. You should see the enquiries going
out, if not the networking is at least part of the problem. If you don't
get replies it could be network or permissions.
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 |
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Bit Twister
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 1546
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: problem with resolv.conf
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:28:37 +0100, Alberto wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
I can connect to internet but I cant resolv DNS, my resolv.conf file is not
changed.
The following output is my resolv.conf file, it dosn't work anymore. What's
up?
cat /etc/resolv.conf
search org
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.130.224.18
nameserver 192.130.225.129
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Please read
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
You might better answers when you provide the Vendor, distribution,
version.
Guessing you have the tmdns service running. kill it, disable it on
boot, remove the 127.0.0.1 line from /etc/resolv.conf |
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Bill Unruh
*nix forums addict
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 87
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: problem with resolv.conf
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Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> writes:
| Quote: | On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:28:37 +0100, Alberto wrote:
Hi all,
I can connect to internet but I cant resolv DNS, my resolv.conf file is not
changed.
The following output is my resolv.conf file, it dosn't work anymore. What's
up?
cat /etc/resolv.conf
search org
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.130.224.18
nameserver 192.130.225.129
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That is a silly file. It says to search .org. Ie if you give it a one word
name (no dots) it will append .org to that name to see if it can find it.
It then goes to the local host (do you really have dns server running on
your local host?) and when it times out from that , to the other two.
Why should it be changed? How do you hook up to the internet? |
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Charles Sullivan
*nix forums addict
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 89
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: installing mpg123 failed -what did I do wrong
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 12:07:01 -0500, Bill Marcum wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:08:38 GMT, Bill Davidsen
davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
Package mpg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package mpg123 has no installation candidate
I would say the error message is quite clear on this, go to "another
source" and get it. I'm not a debian guy, so I don't know where that
might be, you can probably get source from freshrpms or freshmeat.net.
Try browsing http://www.apt-get.org or add this line to sources.list:
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
(change "testing" to "stable" or "unstable" as needed)
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A little late on this thread, but the package the OP wants is
probably mpg321. This is a GPL'd free drop-in clone of mpg123,
which is NOT a free program. (The mpg321 RPM installer creates
a link to it named mpg123 - the Debian installer probably does
the same.) |
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Tommi Lorry Jensen
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 11
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: Need to install Windows 2000 from scratch to HDDs with Debian/Linux
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ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
| Quote: | Hello!
I have Debian (Kernel 2.6. installed currently sharing two old IDE
HDDs. What's the best way to install a new Windows 2000 SP4 (all
updates) installation without messing up my current Linux EXT3
partitions? I have PartitionMagic v8.01, but I don't know if it is safe
to use (e.g., resize the existing partitions). I have never done this
(newbie) before so I am scared. 
you could contact tech support for partition magic, as it's a commercial |
product.
alternatively Gnu parted might be of use.
/Tommi |
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
*nix forums Guru
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 1068
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade?
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"tendim" <tendim@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:1113suhnccbi053@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | I recently made the jump from a fairly stable 2.4.18 kernel to 2.4.29,
after I
was having various problems with Signal 11's during huge FTP transfers.
The
compile went fine and the Kernel seems to work, except..
I had to patch my /etc/fstab file to remap all of my IDE drives.
Previously,
my drives were hdc and hdd, but after going to 2.4.29 they were remapped
to
hdg and hdh. I've tried the following to rectify the problem:
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Why aren't you going to a 2.6 kernel?
| Quote: | - sending ide=reverse at the command line
- enabling and disabling the "Boot Offboard Chipsets First Support"
from the IDE section of the kernel config
The documentation doesn't seem to say anything. What I am confused about
is
that 2.4.18 *also* has all of these IDE options, and using the old values
doesn't do anything. Also, I only have one IDE interface in my machine,
so
I don't know why the system thinks there are phantom drives before
hdg/hdh.
My machine:
- PowerMac 8500/G3
- Sonnet Tempo ULTRA66 IDE Card
- Belkin USB card
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hmm. Did you re-order PCI cards in any way?
Ordering of IDE drives is a bit dependent on the order the controllers are
numbered in interrupts, and this can get a bit adventuresome. |
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Bill Davidsen
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Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 217
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade?
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tendim wrote:
| Quote: | I recently made the jump from a fairly stable 2.4.18 kernel to 2.4.29, after I
was having various problems with Signal 11's during huge FTP transfers. The
compile went fine and the Kernel seems to work, except..
I had to patch my /etc/fstab file to remap all of my IDE drives. Previously,
my drives were hdc and hdd, but after going to 2.4.29 they were remapped to
hdg and hdh. I've tried the following to rectify the problem:
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I would assume that your kernel detected some other hardware, and it
gave hda..hdf to that. Look a dmesg and /proc/ide to see what is being
detected. I sounds as if you have multiple controllers in the system,
and building without the drivers for the ones you aren't using would be
a good thing (or hang your drives off the first controller if possible).
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- sending ide=reverse at the command line
- enabling and disabling the "Boot Offboard Chipsets First Support"
from the IDE section of the kernel config
The documentation doesn't seem to say anything. What I am confused about is
that 2.4.18 *also* has all of these IDE options, and using the old values
doesn't do anything. Also, I only have one IDE interface in my machine, so
I don't know why the system thinks there are phantom drives before hdg/hdh.
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Looking at your config, I start to see why you are having a learning
curve, but the above advice should at least let you understand it.
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My machine:
- PowerMac 8500/G3
- Sonnet Tempo ULTRA66 IDE Card
- Belkin USB card
Any help would be appreciated.
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--
bill davidsen (davidsen@darkstar.prodigy.com)
SBC/Prodigy Yorktown Heights NY data center
Project Leader, USENET news
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pmp
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 4
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade?
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Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Why aren't you going to a 2.6 kernel?
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No need to at this point. I haven't heard of anything that 2.6 offers
me; although I will admit that I have not looked into it much. I
figured 2.4, b/c I was already running a fairly stable 2.4.18 system and
when I went from 2.2 to 2.4 a while back it caused nothing but headaches
for a while. The 2.4 series works with everything I have; I upgraded to
..29 to try and alleviate the one problem I was having with signal 11's.
:I
| Quote: | Hmm. Did you re-order PCI cards in any way?
Ordering of IDE drives is a bit dependent on the order the controllers are
numbered in interrupts, and this can get a bit adventuresome.
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*Nothing* has changed other than my kernal version. If I reboot with
2.4.18 things are as they should be.
-10d |
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pmp
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 4
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject:
Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade?
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Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | tendim wrote:
I would assume that your kernel detected some other hardware, and it
gave hda..hdf to that. Look a dmesg and /proc/ide to see what is being
detected. I sounds as if you have multiple controllers in the system,
and building without the drivers for the ones you aren't using would be
a good thing (or hang your drives off the first controller if possible).
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*Sigh*
I'm not sure if you noticed the rest of my article, but I also clearly
said that I only had one IDE interface (read: controller) in my machine.
There are no other drivers installed, either statically or as modules.
As I said, the machine was working *fine* prior to a 2.4.29 kernel
upgrade; I'm confused as to why a migration from 2.4.18 to 2.4.29 would
cause such a stupid change in setup.
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- sending ide=reverse at the command line
- enabling and disabling the "Boot Offboard Chipsets First Support"
from the IDE section of the kernel config
The documentation doesn't seem to say anything. What I am confused
about is that 2.4.18 *also* has all of these IDE options, and using the
old values doesn't do anything. Also, I only have one IDE interface in
my machine, so I don't know why the system thinks there are phantom
drives before hdg/hdh.
Looking at your config, I start to see why you are having a learning
curve, but the above advice should at least let you understand it.
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I also don't know which config you are talking about. You haven't seen
my entire config, so how can you assume I am having a learning curve?
If I had a learning curve, I wouldn't have been able to patch the
problem originally (e.g., my system wouldn't boot at all; without
patching /etc/fstab the machine hangs, unable to find block-major-22 AKA
my boot drive as it was configured under 2.4.1.
Now, to get to the point you did make that was useful. Here is a dump
of my /proc/ide/aec62xx (my *only* IDE controller)
Controller: 0
Chipset: AEC860
--------------- Primary Channel ---------------- Secondary Channel
-------------
enabled enabled
--------------- drive0 --------- drive1 -------- drive0 ----------
drive1 ------
DMA enabled: no no yes yes
DMA Mode: PIO(?) PIO(?) UDMA(4)
UDMA(4)
Ok, so that is controller #0, which would imply it is the "first"
controller. Primary drive 0 and drive 1 would be assigned hda and hdb,
and secondary drive 0 and drive 1 would be hdc and hdd, no?
I do have two SCSI controllers in my system, which should be enabled as
/dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc., which they are. I don't see how these would
(or should) interfere with IDE ordering. |
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