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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject:
Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145671146.758871.205320@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Thanks! If I boot from Knoppix, is there a way that I can install
additional software, which is not included in the bundle? Since
Knoppix doesn't touch the harddisk, I guess one can't install extra
software. Is there to get around?
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Not trivially: it's playing fascinating games to store the actively edited
files in RAM and swap, if available. You can add packages to the CD image
with lots of published tools.
But if you're going that far, why not get an external USB drive and use that
to put your Linux software and working directories on, and boot from Knoppix
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject:
Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145683721.361239.189410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Thanks to both of you for your replies! I use linux for some
scientific computation, and it's very probable that the additional
softwares that I need will not be part of the standard bundle.
I originally consider installing linux like fedora core, but this
requires repartitioning my computer, and yet, I don't know whether it
can work with any OS other than windows.
I think I should boot from Knoppix and will try to mount the windows
partition and install additional software there. Is there any risk in
doing this, since it touches windows? Any tips are highly welcome!
If I find out my computer works with Linux, then I probably will try to
install linux on my harddisk. Is there any good and free partition
tool available? If I install linux, shall I install Knoppix or fedora
core? I only had experience in installing and using fedora.
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I strongly recommend adding another hard disk, rather than repartitioning.
And the partitioning tools are built into many modern Linux installers, such
as SuSE and Knoppix. I don't think Fedora Core has a good one automatically
in the installer, but I haven't tried that in a few years. |
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 1068
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Apache->PHP-mail()->sendmail problem Debian 3.1
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"Bengt Samuelsson" <bengt@remove.sm7jqb.se> wrote in message
news:Xns97AD2056B8349pdp8dec@192.71.180.100...
| Quote: | Hi!
I can´t send mail from my webserver!
I CAN send mail all ather ways thrue sendmail.
Even 'gethostbyname()' don´t work!
I run Apache 1.3.3
PHP 4.3.0
sendmail 8.13.4
Something special to lock after?
Please send a copy to bengt@sm7jqb.se too!
73 dé Bengt
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You've neglected to say which Linux release you are using, and your network
configuration. Is sendmail actually running? Can the machine send mail to
itself locally? Are there messages in /var/log/maillog about it? What do
your /etc/sendmail/*.mc files say? |
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***** charles
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:04 am Post subject:
Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145666010.423767.275360@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello,
Is there a way to run linux from a CD without installing it on my
computer (and hence can avoid repartition the computer)? If so, which
linux vendor should I try? I'm fairly new to linux, so I guess debian
may be too much for me (since it requires lots of manual configuration
of the systems).
In addition, my laptop is windows, I'm not sure whether it'll work with
linux since some hardwares (such as winmodems) are only designed for
windows. How could I find out whether I can run linux properly?
Thanks,
xian
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Live bootable CD's: Knoppix, Ubuntu, just put "live bootable linux"
in google and have fun.
The advantage of live cd's is that you can use them to pre-determine if your
hardware will work with it. They are not designed for long-term use. If
you want to use linux on a longer term basis you need to install it on some
form of relatively permenent media: hd, usb/fw drive in multi boot mode
if you still need Windows too. Linux can work with FAT32 partitions just
fine but it is still IF'Y with NTFS writes.
You can also use live linux to solve a lot of Windows problems.
later..... |
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xian_hong2046@hotmail.com
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 05 Apr 2006
Posts: 19
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Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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Thanks to all of your replies! I'm using a laptop, which makes it
harder to get another harddisk. USB harddrive is a solution that I'll
consider. On the other hand, is it a lot slower to access a USB drive?
Thanks,
xian |
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***** charles
*nix forums addict
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 53
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Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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<xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Thanks to all of your replies! I'm using a laptop, which makes it
harder to get another harddisk. USB harddrive is a solution that I'll
consider. On the other hand, is it a lot slower to access a USB drive?
Thanks,
xian
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Most people are price sensative. When they find out how much SPEED
costs, they ususally say "well, I don't need that much speed". You can
get a new USB external box and stick a used 20G hd in it for under $50
just for experimental stuff and education.
later..... |
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 1068
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject:
Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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***** charles wrote:
| Quote: | xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145780299.875998.165140@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Thanks to all of your replies! I'm using a laptop, which makes it
harder to get another harddisk. USB harddrive is a solution that
I'll consider. On the other hand, is it a lot slower to access a
USB drive?
Thanks,
xian
Most people are price sensative. When they find out how much SPEED
costs, they ususally say "well, I don't need that much speed". You
can get a new USB external box and stick a used 20G hd in it for
under $50 just for experimental stuff and education.
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Many of those external boxes, however, just plain suck. I've only had one
out of 3 of these actually work without having to return and replace the
external box: the other two were broken right out of the box. |
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Mark South
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject:
Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 02:52:00 +0000, Unruh wrote:
| Quote: | "xian_hong2046@hotmail.com" <xian_hong2046@hotmail.com> writes:
Thanks! If I boot from Knoppix, is there a way that I can install
additional software, which is not included in the bundle? Since
Knoppix doesn't touch the harddisk, I guess one can't install extra
software. Is there to get around?
You would have to install it onto the disk. You could mount the windows
partition and install the stuff on there.
You obvioulsy cannot install them onto the CD.
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It's not that obvious.
As a matter of fact, Puppy Linux allows you to install extra software to
the CD (even without using a CD-RW) using its multisession
technology/trickery (delete as appropriate).
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globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable."
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Bengt Samuelsson
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject:
Re: Apache->PHP-mail()->sendmail problem Debian 3.1
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Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
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"Bengt Samuelsson" <bengt@remove.sm7jqb.se> wrote in message
news:Xns97AD2056B8349pdp8dec@192.71.180.100...
Hi!
I can´t send mail from my webserver!
I CAN send mail all ather ways thrue sendmail.
Even 'gethostbyname()' don´t work!
I run Apache 1.3.3
PHP 4.3.0
sendmail 8.13.4
Something special to lock after?
Please send a copy to bengt@sm7jqb.se too!
73 dé Bengt
You've neglected to say which Linux release you are using,
I am running Debian 3.1 |
| Quote: | and your network configuration.
I run in a small local network .sm7jqb.lan |
| Quote: | Is sendmail actually running?
Yes sendmail is running. |
| Quote: | Can the machine send mail to itself
Now we are talking bissnis  |
I had problem ti set up Kmail to use sendmail localy, but it goes fine to
use 'smtp.sm7jqb.lan' as I do from my XP-box.
'mail.sm7jqb.lan' -> 44.140.249.65 the same box as localhost -> 127.0.0.1
| Quote: | locally?
Are there messages in /var/log/maillog about it?
Yes! |
Apr 24 17:09:27 sm7jqb sendmail[6003]: k3OF9R8g006003:
from=www-data, size=81, class=0, nrcpts=0,
msgid=<200604241509.k3OF9R8g006003@sm7jqb.dnsalias.com>,
relay=www-data@localhost
from this code
<?php
if ( mail('apache@sm7jqb.se','Testmail !!','Hej, bara testar',
'From:bengt@sm7jqb.se') )
print "<br />Skickade epost";
else
print "<br />Skickade INTE epost";
?>
and I got "Skickade INTE epost"
| Quote: | What do your /etc/sendmail/*.mc files say?
it is /etc/mail/sendmail.mc |
#
define(`_USE_ETC_MAIL_')dnl
include(`/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl
VERSIONID(`$Id: sendmail.mc, v 8.13.4-3sarge1 2006-03-22 22:41:17 cowboy Exp
$')
OSTYPE(`debian')dnl
DOMAIN(`debian-mta')dnl
undefine(`confHOST_STATUS_DIRECTORY')dnl #DAEMON_HOSTSTATS=
define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `sm7jqb.dnsalias.com')dnl
define(`SMART_HOST',`mail.tele2.se')dnl
define(`confDEF_USER_ID',``8:12'')dnl
define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST',true)dnl
define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES',true)dnl
define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl
define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl
FEATURE(`no_default_msa')dnl
Addr=::1')dnl
dnl define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',dnl
`needmailhelo,needexpnhelo,needvrfyhelo,restrictqrun,restrictexpand,nobodyreturn,authwarnings')dnl
define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl
undefine(`UUCP_RELAY')dnl
define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl
define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl
define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl
FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl
FEATURE(`accept_unqualified_senders')dnl
FEATURE(access_db)
FEATURE(`greet_pause', `1000')dnl 1 seconds
dnl # Default Mailer setup
MAILER_DEFINITIONS
MAILER(`local')dnl
MAILER(`smtp')dnl
MAILER(`uucp')dnl
Cwlocalhost.localdomain dnl
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Bengt Samuelsson
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 5
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Apache->PHP-mail()->sendmail problem Debian 3.1
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Hi!
I can´t send mail from my webserver!
I run
Linux Debian 3.1
Apache 1.3.3
PHP 4.4.4
sendmail 8.13.4
Something special to lock after?
Please send a copy to bengt@sm7jqb.se too!
I use a local network/domain *.sm7jqb.lan
Yes sendmail is running and I can send mail localy.
I can send mail using Kmail to use sendmail localy,
but I can't use smtp.sm7jqb.lan' as I want to do do from my XP-box.
I want to send mail from evrtone in *.sm7jqb.lan
I want to send mail from "PHP-mail()" running in this Linux-box user
'www-data'
A line from /var/log/mail.log
Apr 24 17:09:27 sm7jqb sendmail[6003]: k3OF9R8g006003:
from=www-data, size=81, class=0, nrcpts=0,
msgid=<200604241509.k3OF9R8g006003@sm7jqb.dnsalias.com>,
relay=www-data@localhost
generated from this code
<?php
if ( mail('apache@sm7jqb.se','Testmail !!','Hej, bara testar',
'From:bengt@sm7jqb.se') )
print "<br />Skickade epost";
else
print "<br />Skickade INTE epost";
?>
and I got the message "Skickade INTE epost"
And my /etc/mail/sendmail.mc
define(`_USE_ETC_MAIL_')dnl
include(`/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl
VERSIONID(`$Id: sendmail.mc, v 8.13.4-3sarge1 2006-03-22 22:41:17 cowboy Exp
$')
OSTYPE(`debian')dnl
DOMAIN(`debian-mta')dnl
dnl # Items controlled by /etc/mail/sendmail.conf - DO NOT TOUCH HERE
undefine(`confHOST_STATUS_DIRECTORY')dnl #DAEMON_HOSTSTATS=
dnl # Items controlled by /etc/mail/sendmail.conf - DO NOT TOUCH HERE
dnl #
dnl # General defines
dnl #
define(`SMART_HOST',`mail.tele2.se') dnl
dnl #
dnl # SAFE_FILE_ENV: [undefined] If set, sendmail will do a chroot()
dnl # into this directory before writing files.
dnl # If *all* your user accounts are under /home then use that
dnl # instead - it will prevent any writes outside of /home !
dnl # define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', `')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Daemon options - restrict to servicing LOCALHOST ONLY !!!
dnl # Remove `, Addr=' clauses to receive from any interface
dnl # If you want to support IPv6, switch the commented/uncommentd lines
FEATURE(`no_default_msa')dnl
dnl # DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet6, Name=MTA-v6, Port=smtp, Addr=::1')dnl
dnl # DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet6, Name=MSP-v6, Port=submission,
Addr=::1')dnl
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA-v4, Port=smtp')dnl
dnl # DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA-v4-1, Port=smtp,
Addr=mail.sm7jqb.lan')dnl
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MSP-v4, Port=submission')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Be somewhat anal in what we allow
define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',dnl
`needmailhelo,needexpnhelo,needvrfyhelo,restrictqrun,restrictexpand,nobodyreturn,authwarnings')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Define connection throttling and window length
define(`confCONNECTION_RATE_THROTTLE', `15')dnl
define(`confCONNECTION_RATE_WINDOW_SIZE',`10m')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Features
dnl #
dnl # The access db is the basis for most of sendmail's checking
FEATURE(`access_db', , `skip')dnl
dnl # FEATURE(access_db[, type /etc/mail/access])dnldnl #
dnl # The greet_pause feature stops some automail bots - but check the
dnl # provided access db for details on excluding localhosts...
FEATURE(`greet_pause', `1000')dnl 1 seconds
dnl #
dnl # Delay_checks allows sender<->recipient checking
FEATURE(`delay_checks', `friend', `n')dnl
dnl #
dnl # If we get too many bad recipients, slow things down...
define(`confBAD_RCPT_THROTTLE',`3')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Stop connections that overflow our concurrent and time connection
rates
FEATURE(`conncontrol', `nodelay', `terminate')dnl
FEATURE(`ratecontrol', `nodelay', `terminate')dnl
dnl #
dnl # If you're on a dialup link, you should enable this - so sendmail
dnl # will not bring up the link (it will queue mail for later)
dnl define(`confCON_EXPENSIVE',`True')dnl
dnl #
FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Masquerading options
FEATURE(`always_add_domain')dnl
MASQUERADE_AS(`localhost.localdomain')dnl
FEATURE(`allmasquerade')dnl
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Default Mailer setup
MAILER_DEFINITIONS
MAILER(`local')dnl
MAILER(`smtp')dnl
Some more lines from /var/log/mail.log
Apr 25 19:20:14 sm7jqb sendmail[13911]: k3PHKEwa013911: from=www-data,
size=81, class=0, nrcpts=0,
msgid=<200604251720.k3PHKEwa013911@sm7jqb.dnsalias.com>,
relay=www-data@localhost
Apr 25 19:20:27 sm7jqb sendmail[13913]: k3PHKRtb013913: from=www-data,
size=81, class=0, nrcpts=0,
msgid=<200604251720.k3PHKRtb013913@sm7jqb.dnsalias.com>,
relay=www-data@localhost
Apr 25 19:31:32 sm7jqb sm-msp-queue[14586]: k3PHEmp1013887:
to=linux@sm7jqb.se, delay=00:16:44, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=210349, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Apr 25 19:31:32 sm7jqb sm-msp-queue[14586]: k3PFFJUm005386:
to=linux@sm7jqb.se, delay=02:16:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=1830349, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Apr 25 19:31:32 sm7jqb sm-msp-queue[14586]: k3PFGmL7005400:
to=linux@sm7jqb.se, delay=02:14:44, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=1830349, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Apr 25 19:40:02 sm7jqb sm-msp-queue[14652]: k3PHEmp1013887:
to=linux@sm7jqb.se, delay=00:25:14, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=300349, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Apr 25 19:40:02 sm7jqb sm-msp-queue[14652]: k3PFFJUm005386:
to=linux@sm7jqb.se, delay=02:24:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=1920349, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Apr 25 19:40:02 sm7jqb sm-msp-queue[14652]: k3PFGmL7005400:
to=linux@sm7jqb.se, delay=02:23:14, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=1920349, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
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DarkTemplar
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Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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Re: can I run linux from a CD, without installing it?
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Give slax a try.
http://slax.linux-live.org/ |
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Perianayagam Somasundaram
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Re: compiling the kernel via make oldconfig
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Copy the old .config file. Do a make menuconfig and DO NOT
configure anything. Just exit by saving. And then do a normal
make vmlinux or whatever you do. This works for me!
S
On Wed, 10 May
2006, otf wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
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I need to compile the kernel the monkey way from its sources' tarballs (no
fancy portage, deb or anything similar) from the .config file with shell
scripts via:
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make oldconfig
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in one shot (no prompts).
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The thing is that I haven't been able to find detailed documentation on all
flags and configuration variables used during compilation of the kernel
sources and the dependencies among them.
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Where could I find detailed information about it?
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Thanx
lbrtchx
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to pick the one true religion by faith - it strikes me as a
sloppy way to run a universe."
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onetitfemme
*nix forums beginner
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 23
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Re: compiling the kernel via make oldconfig
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Again what I need is a detailed documentation on all flags and
configuration variables used during compilation of the kernel sources and
the dependencies among them. My goal is studying them/understanding the
compilation process in depth not compiling the kernel per se.
..
Thanks
Perianayagam Somasundaram wrote:
| Quote: | Copy the old .config file. Do a make menuconfig and DO NOT
configure anything. Just exit by saving. And then do a normal
make vmlinux or whatever you do. This works for me!
S
On Wed, 10 May
2006, otf wrote:
Hi,
.
I need to compile the kernel the monkey way from its sources' tarballs
(no fancy portage, deb or anything similar) from the .config file with
shell scripts via:
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make oldconfig
.
in one shot (no prompts).
.
The thing is that I haven't been able to find detailed documentation on
all flags and configuration variables used during compilation of the
kernel sources and the dependencies among them.
.
Where could I find detailed information about it?
.
Thanx
lbrtchx
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Binary
*nix forums addict
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 83
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Re: sync between two PCs
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I find rsync can do this for me.
Markus Schoder wrote:
| Quote: | Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (18 Jun 2006 08:00:03 -0700) it happened "Binary"
binary.chen@gmail.com> wrote in
1150642803.922937.271760@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Hi,
I have two PC, one in office, one in home. I have installed the Ubuntu
in home pc, and also installed a lot of softwares. Now I want to copy
the entire system to office PC, is there any backup method to transfer
all the system of home to office?
The two PC is different.
No
You will need to install the OS and then the applications again on the
other PC.
Hardware will be different, different drivers and configuration....
If the hardware is exactly the same, you could copy disk content
perhaps...
If you compiled the other apps from source, and have the source tree in
one place, you could write that to DC or DVD, copy it to the other PC, and
do 'make clean' 'make install'.....
Or if rmps, just copy those rpms and do rpm -ivh on each...
might just work (in the right sequence...)
At least it once was that simple....
Recompile kernel and drivers too.....
Under some fairly general assumptions you can very well just copy a complete
installation except the kernel and kernel modules from one PC to the other.
Obviously the machines must be binary compatible (i.e. both say x86). What
you very roughly need to do is:
1. Pack your whole / directory hierarchy into a (compressed) tar archive
excluding some directories (e.g. /tmp /dev /proc /sysfs /mnt). Make sure
the filesystem is not modified during the backup (boot from a live CD and
mount read-only).
2. Boot target PC from a live CD and set up networking.
3. Partition and format target PC's drives.
4. Transfer tar archive from source to target PC.
5. Extract archive and create additional directories
(e.g. /tmp /dev /proc /sysfs /mnt)
6. Edit /etc/fstab to match new drive names.
7. Install new kernel on target PC and set up boot-loader.
8. Reboot.
Only recommended for experienced users but certainly doable.
(followup set to: comp.os.linux.setup). |
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