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Moe Trin
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Catch 22 trying to install doc package Reply with quote

In article <etfld2-0qp.ln1@don.localnet>, Bill Marcum wrote:
Quote:
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.setup.]

Fine by me!

Quote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:58:44 GMT, Norm Dresner

Well, I've apparently got Midnight Commander v4.5.42 installed and I've
brought it up and highlighted the rpm file and hit the enter key and apart
from a brief flash of the window, nothing happens!

Maybe you got a bad rpm file, or something went wrong while trying to
uncompress it.

No, I think he has a version creep problem. He was talking about the
original install on a 6.2 box, which was...

2883115 Mar 8 2000 enlightenment-0.15.5-48.i386.rpm
155910 Sep 26 1999 enlightenment-conf-0.15-9.i386.rpm

and a quick check of the errata directory listing doesn't show an update.
Above, he also mentions mc-4.5.42...

1246566 Mar 8 2000 mc-4.5.42-10.i386.rpm

again, that's the original version off the RH6.2 CD, and there is nothing in
the errata directory listing. The problem is _probably_ here:

1253809 Mar 8 2000 rpm-3.0.4-0.48.i386.rpm

and the errata listing shows

1283762 Mar 21 2001 rpm-4.0.2-6x.i386.rpm

The older version can't update to this - you needed

1236810 Aug 9 2000 rpm-3.0.5-9.6x.i386.rpm

as an intermediate step (there was also a database package change if I
recall correctly - it's been a while).

Now, he's trying to install 'enlightenment-docs-0.16.7-1.noarch.rpm' and I
have no idea where that came from. Red Hat provided these packages after
RH6.2:

rpms.7.0-i386.gz 10813322 Aug 30 2000 enlightenment-0.16.4-6.i386.rpm
rpms.7.1-i386.gz 10803683 Apr 8 2001 enlightenment-0.16.4-7.i386.rpm
rpms.7.1.93.gz 10797889 Jul 23 2001 enlightenment-0.16.4-11.i386.rpm
rpms.7.2-i386.gz 10797881 Sep 7 2001 enlightenment-0.16.4-11.i386.rpm

but I don't show any 'enlightenment' package in 7.3, 8.0, or 9. OK, just
checked the RELEASE-NOTES file for 7.2, and Enlightenment is listed as
deprecated. And in the RELEASE-NOTES file for 7.3, it's been removed.
Now earlier upthread, he says:

Quote:
I wanted to find and install the doc package for enlightenment. I went to
their website and the only one I could find was the doc package for
0.16.x -- hey, no problem,

"their" website - whose? I wonder what the output of 'file' would be,
assuming he has a current version that is aware of version 4 rpms.
A better solution, now that I think about it, might actually be to grab the
tarball, and work with that.

Old guy
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Art Werschulz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: soundcard issues Reply with quote

Hi.

Awhile back, I posted the following:

Quote:
I am running Fedora FC3 on a Dell.

When I run system-config-soundcard, the following audio device was
detected:

Vendor: Intel
Model: Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio
Module: snd-intel8x0

I then click the "Play test sound" button, and I hear nothing. Next, I get
an alert box asking "Did you hear the sample sound?" After clicking "No",
I get another alert box saying

Automatic detection of the sound card did not work. Audio will not be
available on the system. Please click OK to continue.

A bit more information: system-config-soundcard prints the following to
the shell window from which it was launched:

Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : Signed
16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo

Moreover, /etc/modprobe.conf is as follows:

alias eth0 3c59x
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias usb-controller uhci-hcd

An update: I recently was upgraded to a dual-processor HP machine. It is
running Fedora FC3, with the 2.6.10-1.760_FC3smp kernel.

Once again, I tried to configure the soundcard. When I ran
system-config-soundcard, the following audio device was detected:

Vendor: Intel
Model: Corp. 82801/EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
Module: snd-intel8x0

I then clicked the "Play test sound" button, and I hear nothing. Next, I
got an alert box asking "Did you hear the sample sound?" After clicking
"No", I got the same alert box as before.

This time, system-config-soundcard printed the following to
the shell window from which it was launched:

Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/system-config-soundcard/sound-sample.wav' : Signed
16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo

and /etc/modprobe.conf is:

alias eth0 tg3
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd

One other thing: I am using the following ALSA RPMs:
alsa-utils-1.0.6-3
alsa-lib-1.0.6-7.FC3
On the offchance that these might be out-of-date, I went to
www.rpmfind.net, looking for more recent versions. The alsa-lib was
up-to-date. However, there was a more recent alsa-utils (1.0.8-1), which I
installed. This made no difference. In the meantime, I have downgraded
alas-utils back to 1.0.6-7.FC3.

So it appears that I'm running into the same configuration problem, on two
different machines, with two different sound cards. Since
system-sound-config is fairly straightforward to use, I don't think I ran
it incorrectly.

Does anybody have any suggestions here? Is this a bug? If so, to whom
should it be reported?

Many thanks.

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pmp
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade? Reply with quote

Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
I don't see where your problem is coming from. Can you recompile your kernel
with the default .config file from your old, standard kernel, run through
"make oldconfig" to get things ordered to match the options of the new
kernel?

I went one step further and actually sat down in two xterms and went
through all options between 2.4.18 and 2.4.29, and made sure they were
identicle. Where there existed new options in 2.4.29, I turned them off
as I didnt' need them anyways.

I did notice that there is a reordering in the ATA->IDE menu of
menuconfig; when I get time I'll post the differences. But this is a
configuration-menu difference; I can't see how that would affect the
actual order of IDE probing.
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Nico Kadel-Garcia
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade? Reply with quote

"pmp" <patrick@tendim.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:1gs2er2.gyu7t1f83h2jN%patrick@tendim.cjb.net...
Quote:
Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net> wrote:

I don't see where your problem is coming from. Can you recompile your
kernel
with the default .config file from your old, standard kernel, run through
"make oldconfig" to get things ordered to match the options of the new
kernel?

I went one step further and actually sat down in two xterms and went
through all options between 2.4.18 and 2.4.29, and made sure they were
identicle. Where there existed new options in 2.4.29, I turned them off
as I didnt' need them anyways.

I did notice that there is a reordering in the ATA->IDE menu of
menuconfig; when I get time I'll post the differences. But this is a
configuration-menu difference; I can't see how that would affect the
actual order of IDE probing.

It does mean the IDE code has been poked around. Since 2.6 is coming into
major use, you may just want to leapfrog the issues of playing with 2.4.
Alternatively, what about upgrading 4 revisions at a time, instead of 11?
And try a 2.4.23 kernel, which I believe was pretty good?
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Jung
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: USB Serial Port Adapter Troubles Reply with quote

"David Kirk" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<10voqspdvt84pec@corp.supernews.com>...
Quote:
Hello, after doing quite a bit of googling with no luck I was wondering if
anyone could help me out.

I am trying to get the USB -> serial adaptor on a Targus Mobile Port
Station to work so that I can attach an external serial modem to my
laptop. Other USB devices attached to the system through the Port Station
(which also has a 5 port USB hub) work without any problems so the
hardware does not seem to be at fault. In fact the USB -> serial port is
detected by the system during boot-up, and the correct driver is loaded
and attached to /dev/ttyUSB0 as indicated by the following lines from the
dmesg command:


Check out this site and see if it helps:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/lonnberg/pl2303x.html

Jung Ko
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spike1@freenet.co.uk
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: IDE Drives re-ordered after Kernel upgrade? Reply with quote

pmp <patrick@tendim.cjb.net> wrote:
Quote:
Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net> wrote:

Why aren't you going to a 2.6 kernel?

No need to at this point. I haven't heard of anything that 2.6 offers
me; although I will admit that I have not looked into it much. I
figured 2.4, b/c I was already running a fairly stable 2.4.18 system and
when I went from 2.2 to 2.4 a while back it caused nothing but headaches
for a while. The 2.4 series works with everything I have; I upgraded to
.29 to try and alleviate the one problem I was having with signal 11's.
:I

The way redhat/fedora labels disk partitions is a good way to go about
things if you have this kind of problem.

Instead of having a line in fstab like...
/dev/hda2 / ext3 defaults 1 1
with a disk label it'd be
LABEL="/" / ext3 defaults 1 1

This way, it doesn't matter of the underlying partition is /dev/hda2, hde2,
sda2 or /dev/wibble2, as far as the OS is concerned, it'll read the label
and go off that.

the command to set a label on a partition is
tune2fs -L
(man tune2fs for full details)
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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

sundarme@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
i want to known about dual linux installation,

.... exactly!
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Bit Twister
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

On 19 Feb 2005 01:09:25 -0800, sundarme@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
hello linux,
i want to known about dual linux installation,
by

http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Starter.html/

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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Michael Heiming
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

In comp.os.linux.setup mjt <mjtobler@removethis_mail.ru>:
Quote:
sundarme@gmail.com wrote:

i want to known about dual linux installation,

... exactly!

It's not clear if this is just another turf or someone seeking
for help, with limited English capabilities? Might be the last,
taking into account that he posted from India using a mobile.

There are numerous Howto concerning setup of multiple OS on one
box, using lilo or grub, here's one :

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+WinNT.html

Others can be found searching (http://tldp.org/) or simply asking
www.google.com.

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Peter T. Breuer
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

Michael Heiming <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote:
Quote:
In comp.os.linux.setup mjt <mjtobler@removethis_mail.ru>:
sundarme@gmail.com wrote:

i want to known about dual linux installation,

... exactly!

It's not clear if this is just another turf or someone seeking
for help, with limited English capabilities? Might be the last,
taking into account that he posted from India using a mobile.

Heh, mjt just posted from russia Surprised). But the OP at least can spell
"dual", which is one up on many!

Quote:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+WinNT.html

I suspect he actually wants to install two linuxes. Not that it makes
any difference (just do it twice and forget windows).

Peter
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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

Peter T. Breuer wrote:
Quote:
Michael Heiming <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote:
sundarme@gmail.com wrote:

i want to known about dual linux installation,

... exactly!

It's not clear if this is just another turf or someone seeking
for help, with limited English capabilities? Might be the last,
taking into account that he posted from India using a mobile.

Heh, mjt just posted from russia Surprised). But the OP at least can spell
"dual", which is one up on many!

.... ah, you're referring to my use of the phrase:
"duel boot[ing]" ?!?!??! actually, i do that on purpose :)

Quote:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+WinNT.html

I suspect he actually wants to install two linuxes. Not that it makes
any difference (just do it twice and forget windows).

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Michael Heiming
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

In comp.os.linux.setup Peter T. Breuer <ptb@lab.it.uc3m.es>:
Quote:
Michael Heiming <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote:
In comp.os.linux.setup mjt <mjtobler@removethis_mail.ru>:
sundarme@gmail.com wrote:

i want to known about dual linux installation,

... exactly!

It's not clear if this is just another turf or someone seeking
for help, with limited English capabilities? Might be the last,
taking into account that he posted from India using a mobile.

Heh, mjt just posted from russia Surprised). But the OP at least can spell
"dual", which is one up on many!

Not really, he posted through a server in Germany, Berlin to be
specific. This free service, not unknown by some turfs, won't be
totally free anymore soon.

Quote:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+WinNT.html

I suspect he actually wants to install two linuxes. Not that it makes
any difference (just do it twice and forget windows).

Perhaps, hardly guessable from the terse OP?

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mjt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

Michael Heiming wrote:

Quote:
Heh, mjt just posted from russia Surprised). But the OP at least can spell
"dual", which is one up on many!

Not really, he posted through a server in Germany, Berlin to be
specific. This free service, not unknown by some turfs, won't be
totally free anymore soon.

.... yep!!! however, i have a Russian email address Smile)
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Michael Heiming
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

In comp.os.linux.setup mjt <mjtobler@removethis_mail.ru>:
Quote:
Michael Heiming wrote:

Heh, mjt just posted from russia Surprised). But the OP at least can spell
"dual", which is one up on many!

Not really, he posted through a server in Germany, Berlin to be
specific. This free service, not unknown by some turfs, won't be
totally free anymore soon.

... yep!!! however, i have a Russian email address Smile)

Yep, but one can put almost anything into From:<>, some nntp
server might require the domain to be resolvable, others give a
s**t....

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how to install dual linux Reply with quote

Michael Heiming wrote:

Quote:
... yep!!! however, i have a Russian email address Smile)

Yep, but one can put almost anything into From:<>, some nntp
server might require the domain to be resolvable, others give a
s**t....

.... that email of mine is valid - not a fake
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You'd think by now we had enough
Yet the fact remains I fear
They make more of it every year.
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