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Tom F.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: This also happened to me, easy to fix... Reply with quote

What you say is true as far as it goes, but I stand by my post. Newbies
have no business logging in as root in X in 99 percent of all cases.

A few distros -- Debian and Fedora come to mind -- even disallow root
logins from xdm.

I can't remember a time when I HAD to do a full login as root. I'm sure
there are cases, but I can't remember any.

When I'm feeling lazy, I just start a file manager as root, but that
pretty much covers it. All configuration utilities that need root
access ask for it when the are started.

I may have overstated it slightly, but I don't know why this is so
shocking.
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Moe Trin
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Catch 22 trying to install doc package Reply with quote

In article <sC9Md.6598$xR1.3889@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Norm Dresner wrote:
Quote:

"Norm Dresner" <ndrez@att.net> wrote in message
news:mBRLd.131994$w62.51924@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

their website and the only one I could find was the doc package for
0.16.x -- hey, no problem, I said glibly, I'll install that and it
should
contain most of what I need. BUT ...

The enlightenment-docs-0.16.7-1.noarch.rpm package will not install.
rpm
tells me that it won't install it because one of the prerequisites is,
in
fact, enlightenment 0.16.

In theory, the '--nodeps' option might work - but there is are safer
ways around this.

1. Grab the source rpm, and install that. This has no effect on your
rpm database, or anything else.

2. Have you got midnight commander installed? It will open rpm _files_
for viewing and copying components. Start mc, then keyboard/mouse your
way to the 'enlightenment-docs-0.16.7-1.noarch.rpm' file, and hit the
Enter key. I've used that option fairly often, especially with rpms
that didn't come from the distributor (remember that many distros use
rpm, and some are quite different).

Quote:
Okay, what can I do? I've tried rpm -i --force

Getting a bigger hammer often just makes smaller pieces that you
have to pick up after you discover how it trashed your system. This
is RARELY a good idea.

Quote:
BUT ... but ... I said that I didn't want to install the binary until
I read the doc to see how much different it was from the previous version
with which I had to maintain compatibility.

Actually, I prefer working with the src.rpm for this, as you get ALL of the
documentation (the binary rpms - even the 'doc-noarch' rpms often don't
include all of the documentation. Also, it includes the 'spec' file
that rpm-build uses to convert the source to a binary, and this will tell
you what options the package maintainer has selected. This may also impact
on your compatibility problems.

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Michael Buchenrieder
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: dsl modem and factory reset Reply with quote

faeychild <phobos@deimos.com> writes:

Quote:
Mandrake 10 Dlink dsl-302g

Is that a DSL modem?

Quote:
I always assumed a factory reset would return the modem to default
settings AND clear the username and password. I discovered that this was
not so during a general despair after a connect failure.

Broken.

Quote:
Is the factory reset just to clear all settings except username and
password?

If that is a DSL modem, it shouldn't even have the capability to
store _anything_ - simply because of the fact that all needed
informations have to be setup on the machine the modem is connected
to.

If that is, however, a DSL router with the modem part included,
that this behaviour is definitely not as intended. Hitting the
reset button should delete all changes and return the device
into the state as delivered.

Michael

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Tom F.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: This also happened to me, easy to fix... Reply with quote

Nico wrote:
Hi Nico,

Quote:
First off, don't log in as root.
snip
And unfortunately, there are somecommon exceptions to this.
I'm just giving general guidelines to a newbie. Of course, if your user

account is non functional you'll have to go in as root to fix it.

Quote:
Unfortunately, there's at least one popular Linux distro
where grub-install is entirely broken.

SuSE.

All too true. I love suse actually, but yast has long ago past the
point of over-engineering. It's a blight on an otherwise great distro.
(I still use it, though ;-)

The OP was talking about fedora, anyway. It seems there was a bug in
fedora core 2's anaconda that messed up dual booting. He fixed it.
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Tom F.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: make win98 boot from cd? Reply with quote

Thufir wrote:

Quote:
"hold down the F1 key while powering up".

I keep trying different combos, such as that, but can't get to a boot
screen. I keep manage to get to the menu which allows win98 to start
in safe mode, though, and I hear the floppy drive grinding.

If that's the case, then try the boot floppy method mentioned above.
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Tom F.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: make win98 boot from cd? Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Quote:
The simplest solution is to get Smart Boot Manager

http://btmgr.sourceforge.net

Just get SBMINST.EXE and run it to make a floppy with it.
Insert CD, insert floppy, boot. Select CD from the SBM
screen, magic happens and it all works.
This is a very good solution. Thufir, try it.

Tom F.
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David Efflandt
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: "Sync out of range" problem on suse 9.1 Reply with quote

On 1 Feb 2005 05:56:04 -0800, vivekian <vivekaseeja@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi ,
I installed suse 9.1 and have a Samsung Syncmaster 773S monitor. The
installation was fine and it runs ok at runlevel 3. But the GUI does
not start up at init 5 with the monitor saying "Sync out of range" . I
tried to configure the monitor through Yast and Sax2 , but the
configuration hangs midway . Any solutions.
Thanks ,
vivekian

I had that problem when first switching from CRT to unlisted LCD monitor.

Try: SaX2 -l (which starts config in standard 640x480 vga)

And after selecting your monitor or one that closely matches check and/or
set proper horizontal and vertical frequency ranges. Although, I do not
know why yours works with startx from runlevel 3 and fails to work with
runlevel 5, unless there is something in your home dir that alters it.
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Jeff Richards
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: make win98 boot from cd? Reply with quote

I don't think you could have looked very hard. The manual for your computer
includes the following description on page 37:
1. Turn on your computer. If your computer is already on when you start this
procedure, you must shut down the operating system, turn off the computer,
wait a few seconds until all in-use lights go off, and restart the computer.
(Do not use Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart the computer.)
2. When the Configuration/Setup Utility prompt appears in the lower-left
corner of the screen during startup, press F1. (This prompt appears on the
screen for only a few seconds. You must press F1 quickly.)

And on page 46:
Setting the startup sequence
Your computer can be started from several devices including the hard disk
drive, diskette drive, CD-ROM drive, or from the network. The startup
program looks for these devices in a selected sequence. You can use
Configuration/Setup Utility to select the startup sequence. To set the
startup sequence:
1. Start the Configuration/Setup Utility program (see "Starting and using
the Configuration/Setup Utility program" on page 37).
2. Select Start Options and press Enter.
3. Select Startup Sequence from the Start Options menu and press Enter.
4. Under Primary Startup Sequence, select First Startup Device and press
Enter.
5. Use the arrow keys to make your selection and press Enter.
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"Thufir Hawat" <thufir.hawat@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1107405197.990186.284080@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
what's the best forum for this? keep cross-posting?

from <http://www-132.ibm.com/content/search/300gl.html> I found the
user manual at
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0&q1=300GL&uid=psg1MIGR-4BYJFD&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=>.

Using adobe's search, I looked through the pdf fiile for BIOS, nothing
jumped out at me as to how to enter the BIOS. However, booting with
the keyboard unplugged does good stuff!

I'm in the configuration/setup utility :)

By mucking in the utility I changed the boot a bit so now it says "IBM"
on the "boot screen" (?) and then says "f12 for network" and "f1" for
setup utility. I was pressing f1 all along, I don't know why it took
unplugging the keyboard to get into the utility to "enable" that. I
might've changed settings to now enable it? kinda moot, but...

Within the setup utility, nothing jumps out with regards to the boot
sequence, though.


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Thufir Hawat
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: make win98 boot from cd? Reply with quote

Jeff Richards wrote:
Quote:
I don't think you could have looked very hard.
[..]

It was cursory, this was more of a back-burner at the moment. I didn't
intend to create work on your end, sorry.

Quote:
screen for only a few seconds. You must press F1 quickly.)

This is still mysterious in that I've done that a few times with no
result, whereas by disconnecting the keyboard gets me into the setup
utility. Perhpas my timing is off.

[..]
Quote:
1. Start the Configuration/Setup Utility program (see "Starting and
using
the Configuration/Setup Utility program" on page 37).
2. Select Start Options and press Enter.
3. Select Startup Sequence from the Start Options menu and press
Enter.
4. Under Primary Startup Sequence, select First Startup Device and
press
Enter.
5. Use the arrow keys to make your selection and press Enter.
[..]


I probably did go into that menu and changed the sequence, but I don't
recall seeing CD.

In any event, you've really done more than I expected! Finding out
that this wasn't related to the OS was sufficient, I googled and did
across SBM early on, but didn't mention it as I wasn't sure if it was
the right direction. I didn't think the boot sequence could be changed
till just now!


Thank you,

Thufir Hawat
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Tom F.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Big-disk woes Reply with quote

Bill wrote:

Thanks Bill.

Quote:
you can see what interrupts are being
used by cat /proc/interrupts

I wouldn't think it would be interrupts. The interrupts for the
controller has been set for years now. It worked with a CD ROM and CD
burner for years.

Quote:
try booting with acpi=force, noacpi, lapic, etc.
No effect. The only thing that stops the error messages is nodma, which

of course removes functionality along with the problem.

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Pat_Tongco@spamcdo.org
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: installing mpg123 failed -what did I do wrong Reply with quote

On 2005-02-01, StewartW <Spam@stewartwebb.com> wrote:
Quote:
I am trying to get &install mpg123 on debian.

When I use apt-get install mpg123 the following occurs.
What should I do?

Thanks

apt-get install mpg123
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package mpg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package mpg123 has no installation candidate



Stewart

You could always try mpg321.
mpg123 is on the 'non-free' group. but am not
sure if that affects with your apt reference.


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Jeff Krimmel
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: "Warning: unable to open an initial console" Reply with quote

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Jeff Krimmel wrote:

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Well, I fixed the problem, but unfortunately I don't really know how I
did it. I ended up installing the SELinux packages (policycoreutils and
selinux-policy-targeted), uninstalling the off-the-web 2.6 FC3 kernels,
and reinstalling an off-the-web FC3 kernel. That particular kernel booted.

My only guess is some weird coupling between the udev and SELinux
packages. Before I did the whole SELinux trick, I noticed after every
reboot (when I was looking at the system from a recovery CD), the /dev
directory lacked many of the devices (most notably the /dev/vc devices)
that exist on every other FC3 machine I have administered. I read a ton
about udev but could not find anything that would point me in the right
direction.

I ended up changing not a single thing with udev, but installed SELinux
and uninstalled and reinstalled the off-the-web kernel, and that worked
fine. I wish I knew more about what exactly happened, but that's as far
as I got with it.

Thanks for your time and the responses,

Jeff

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Thufir Hawat
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Ways to keep my Debian box updated over dial-up (3 KB/sec)? Reply with quote

follow up set to comp.os.linux.setup

ANT...@zimage.com wrote:
[..]
Quote:
Bascially, I would like to take the list of packages that I need to
download and their locations, download them at work to burn to a
CD-RW
and/or USB Flash drives/sticks (haven't tested to see if Flash
drives/sticks work on that Debian box). I see *.dep files are
download-
able from http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages (unstable, stable,

etc.). I do NOT want have to download each file one by one. I think

there was about a hundred packages in apt-get upgrade list when I
checked last night. Gah! :(

It looks like Debian wasn't really designed for dial-up modems and
I do
not really want to get another distribution. Please note that this
is a
desktop workstation, not a notebook/laptop so portability is not an

option.

bittorrent would allow you to download everything at home in that you
can resume downloads. maybe download the entire distro and
update/upgrade via the hard drive? very lengthy process, of course,
and, it's more of a nce-in-a-while solution rather than a day-to-day
maintenance.

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John Hasler
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Ways to keep my Debian box updated over dial-up (3 KB/sec)? Reply with quote

ANT wrote:
Quote:
I think there was about a hundred packages in apt-get upgrade list when I
checked last night.

Apt-get them one or a few at a time. You can use the '-d' option to
postpone installation if you wish. Man apt-get. You might want to
consider using Aptitude instead of apt-get.

Quote:
Gah! Sad It looks like Debian wasn't really designed for dial-up modems

I've been using it on dialup since the late nineties.

Thufir Hawat writes:
Quote:
bittorrent would allow you to download everything at home in that you can
resume downloads.

apt-get will also resume downloads.
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Thufir Hawat
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Ways to keep my Debian box updated over dial-up (3 KB/sec)? Reply with quote

follow up to comp.os.linux.setup

"The package management via apt-get/synaptic really is an advantage
over other distributions. Although I have used apt-get/yum on Fedora
regularly, I have to say: it's even slightly better on a Debian-based
distribution. The technical procedure might be the same, but having the
one universal package repository where you can find each and everything
is just a killer feature. Of course, there is not that much difference
between Ubuntu and a Fedora Core installation with a decent yum.conf
set up, it merely "feels different". Hard to explain, I guess you'll
have to experience it for yourself."

<http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=8754>
<http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/>

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