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igor@nospam.invalid
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

Julio Uehara <julueh@monclova.discovery.net> wrote:
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? <pakrat@localhost.private.neotoma.org> wrote:

Because noone that writes the installation documentation uses it?

The final stage of NetBSD installation recommends to have a look at
"man afterboot", which makes reference to "sushi" among other things.

sushi(Cool is based on a fine idea. It has the same goals as sam on HP-UX,
smit on AIX and other menu-driven configuration tools. But I certainly
would not recommend its use in its current status. Perhaps sushi(Cool
should be an optional component to the operating system instead of
being provided in the base system, as it can damage the system configuration
files.

It certainly looks great and it is obvious that developers spent *a lot*
of time making it useful for first-time NetBSD administrators, but it
is too easy corrupting some system configuration files when using that
tool. At least, I read some posts on this matter on the NetBSD mailing
lists.

I have not used it in the last year or so. Only used it in a test
machine to know how it looks about two years ago (when it was added
to the operating system). Perhaps most problems have been fixed now.
But I certainly would not recommend its use in production servers.
On the other hand, NetBSD is really easy to manage and its new rc.d
subsystem (as it appeared in NetBSD 1.5) certainly makes turning on
and off services pretty easy.

Just my opinion... perhaps I am wrong.

Igor.
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Julio Uehara
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

? <pakrat@localhost.private.neotoma.org> wrote:
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:32:56 GMT in <rnmzjlvt6f.fsf@succubus.panacea.null.org> Joel Reicher <joel@panacea.null.org> wrote:

I always forget about sushi, since I never use it. Does anyone know
why it's not mentioned at all in the installation documentation?

Because noone that writes the installation documentation uses it?

The final stage of NetBSD installation recommends to have a look at

"man afterboot", which makes reference to "sushi" among other things.

-- Julio
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?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:32:56 GMT in <rnmzjlvt6f.fsf@succubus.panacea.null.org> Joel Reicher <joel@panacea.null.org> wrote:
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igor@nospam.invalid writes:

sushi(Cool is a menu based system administration tool provided in the
base system.

I always forget about sushi, since I never use it. Does anyone know
why it's not mentioned at all in the installation documentation?

Because noone that writes the installation documentation uses it?


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Joel Reicher
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

igor@nospam.invalid writes:

Quote:
sushi(Cool is a menu based system administration tool provided in the
base system.

I always forget about sushi, since I never use it. Does anyone know
why it's not mentioned at all in the installation documentation?

Cheers,

- Joel
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igor@nospam.invalid
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

Joel Reicher <joel@panacea.null.org> wrote:
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"llothar" <llothar@web.de> writes:

Please note that i want to learn as less as possible about system
administration. I only need to make a connection to another machine.

You don't want to learn as little as possible; you want to spend as
little *time* as possible. Nobody in their right mind is uninterested
in learning stuff if it takes no time.

Quite sure! That is a very good advice.

sushi(Cool is a menu based system administration tool provided in the
base system. But I certainly would *NOT* recommend it. In my humble
opinion, Joel is absolutely right. NetBSD is not difficult to manage
at all and it has very good documentation available.

Cheers,
Igor.
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Hauke Fath
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

llothar <llothar@web.de> wrote:

Quote:
I just installed NetBSD 2.1
How can i set the IP adress of my ethernet adapter ?

The NetBSD Guide is your friend:
http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/part-net.html

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Is there any configuration tool ?

Brain v1.0.

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Or can somebody tell me which config files hold this information.

/etc/rc.conf.

Quote:
Please note that i want to learn as less as possible about system
administration. I only need to make a connection to another machine.

We don't usually spoon-feed people around here.

hauke

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Joel Reicher
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

"llothar" <llothar@web.de> writes:

Quote:
I have an X Server on another machine with IP 10.0.0.1 but i can't
access it.
If i set DISPLAY=10.0.0.1:0 i get a connection refused. Even if i do
this
on the XServer machine from inside an XTerm with a DISPLAY=localhost:0
i get the same error, but a DISPLAY=0.0 works.

If the connection is refused, then DISPLAY is probably being set
correctly, but the client doesn't have the authority to access the
server. There are two ways to solve this. The first is with the list
of cookies the server maintains. You can show this with
xauth list
Pick the cookie for the server you want access to, and then using
xauth again you can add the cookie or merge the .Xauthority file. You
can also just copy the .Xauthority file across if you're not wiping
one at the destination.

The simpler, but less secure and less `correct' way, is to give the
(new) client open access with
xhost + clientmachine

Cheers,

- Joel
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Lothar Scholz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

Okay this was easy thanks.

But now i run into another problem with the X Server.

I have an X Server on another machine with IP 10.0.0.1 but i can't
access it.
If i set DISPLAY=10.0.0.1:0 i get a connection refused. Even if i do
this
on the XServer machine from inside an XTerm with a DISPLAY=localhost:0
i get the same error, but a DISPLAY=0.0 works.
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Joel Reicher
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

"llothar" <llothar@web.de> writes:

Quote:
I just installed NetBSD 2.1
How can i set the IP adress of my ethernet adapter ?

Do
ifconfig -a
to see what NetBSD has called your NIC. Ignore the loopback interface
lo0 and any ppp or slip interfaces that show up.

You can set the IP address with
ifconfig iface_name inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

Put the last two arguments in a file called
/etc/ifconfig.iface_name
for boot time configuration.

More info in the ifconfig and ifconfig.if man pages.

Quote:
Is there any configuration tool ?

Yes. It's the program that you used to install NetBSD. It has a
section for setting up networking.

Quote:
Please note that i want to learn as less as possible about system
administration. I only need to make a connection to another machine.

You don't want to learn as little as possible; you want to spend as
little *time* as possible. Nobody in their right mind is uninterested
in learning stuff if it takes no time.

Cheers,

- Joel
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Lothar Scholz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: Any GUI configuration tool Reply with quote

I just installed NetBSD 2.1
How can i set the IP adress of my ethernet adapter ?

Is there any configuration tool ?
Or can somebody tell me which config files hold this information.

Please note that i want to learn as less as possible about system
administration. I only need to make a connection to another machine.
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